Puppy Linux Discussion Forum Forum Index Puppy Linux Discussion Forum
Puppy HOME page : puppylinux.com
"THE" alternative forum : puppylinux.info
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

The time now is Sun 23 Nov 2014, 02:02
All times are UTC - 4
 Forum index » Advanced Topics » Puppy Derivatives
Upup Precise 5.3.3.3 with kernel 3.3.2
Moderators: Flash, JohnMurga
Post new topic   Reply to topic View previous topic :: View next topic
Page 24 of 25 [373 Posts]   Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3, ..., 22, 23, 24, 25 Next
Author Message
BarryK
Puppy Master


Joined: 09 May 2005
Posts: 7082
Location: Perth, Western Australia

PostPosted: Thu 24 May 2012, 01:50    Post subject:  

I have addressed many of the issues posted about in this forum thread, applied them to Woof. See blog thread:

http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02839

And, Precise Puppy alpha3 is now out:

http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02842

_________________
http://bkhome.org/news/
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website 
Terryphi


Joined: 02 Jul 2008
Posts: 763
Location: West Wales, Britain.

PostPosted: Thu 24 May 2012, 02:58    Post subject:  

Thanks, Barry. Everything tested so far is running well for me. I took your advice and kept away for PPM for now.
_________________
Classic Opera 12.16 browser SFS package for Precise, Slacko, Racy, Wary, Lucid, Quirky, etc available here Smile
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website 
mrokosz

Joined: 28 Jan 2012
Posts: 25

PostPosted: Thu 24 May 2012, 12:00    Post subject: Compression method  

Barry,
Thanks for the distro, works great, but I am using on really slow computer P3 500MHz 256MB RAM frugal installation, so the software is not as responsive as with with the little bigger but faster for old computers distro version, I am talking about version around 169 MB size of the iso. If there is no problem I prefer to use sfs with smaller compression ratio, it just works faster

mrokosz
P.S. Everything works great, Pemasu package problems not there any more. I guess it will replace Pemasu distro
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
BarryK
Puppy Master


Joined: 09 May 2005
Posts: 7082
Location: Perth, Western Australia

PostPosted: Fri 25 May 2012, 04:58    Post subject: Re: Compression method  

mrokosz wrote:
P.S. Everything works great, Pemasu package problems not there any more. I guess it will replace Pemasu distro


Pemasu is a bit busy right now, see earlier post this Forum thread. But, he is a Puppy addict like the rest of us, and will be back to do another build from latest Woof -- so, whatever development we do with alpha3 will be going into Woof, and pemasu will pick up from there, the very latest. I mean, nothing will be lost here, it is all cumulative.

_________________
http://bkhome.org/news/
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website 
rerwin


Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Posts: 1536
Location: Maine, USA

PostPosted: Thu 31 May 2012, 10:13    Post subject: Broadcom wifi driver management experiments  

jim3630, peebee, pemasu, Broadcom 43xx users,
I have attached my refined experimental package to select and load the appropriate Broadcom wifi driver for each variant of the 43xx devices -- b43, b43legacy, brcmsmac, wl, wl (older version). It is also intended to support b44 ethernet devices even with the wl loaded; but I cannot, myself, verify that that would be successful.

The logic ensures that only the wl driver is loaded even if a device is also supported by b43 or brcmsmac. As before, to avoid using the (default) wl driver, simply blacklist it in the BootManager. Also as before, if the wl driver cannot handle a device (device not detected), it will be automatically blacklisted so that another driver gets loaded at the next boot-up. (You can un-blacklist it in the BootManager.)

If you experience a problem with the main experiment-4 package, you can instead use either the 4a or 4b packages to ensure that only wl or brcmsmac (respectively) are available for use. That is to eliminate any influence by the main-package logic or the other drivers.

Note that brcmsmac cannot be used on an adhoc network, so please avoid doing that. Please send me a pmodemdiag file if you encounter a problem with these packages.

Note also that jim3630 has more success using frisbee as the network interface for his brcmsmac-using device. But I hope to also have SNS and the network wizard work with the newer (wl, brcmsmac) drivers, but need the expertise of those more familiar with the workings of wifi connection.

Thanks for any feedback you can provide.
Richard

UPDATE 6/15/2012: The "5delta" package is added to address the cases where the proprietary driver fails for some (BCM4312 - hardware ID 14e4:4312) models that can also use the open-source driver. In experiment-4, a reboot was necessary to get the open-source driver to take over. The new package makes the substitution during the first boot-up after its installation. Although the logic appears to function as intended, it must be tried with the target device installed, to verify whether the substitution is truly effective and allows immediate connection. Please send me a pmodemdiag file if you can run the test. You should see driver b43 used, instead of no detection during first boot-up. TIA.

UPDATE 7/13/2012: The "5-6delta" package is added for minor mods and to move the b43 firmware files from the b43 "tarball"/directory into /lib/firmware/b43, to avoid a shutdown hang related to the absence of the firmware during the first boot-up. With that change, the module is successfully changed from wl to b43 if wl fails, all during the first boot-up. This was verified with dpup-exprimo.

UPDATE 7/14/2012: Re-uploaded "5-6delta" after download number 6, to remove the moving of b43 firmware during the installation and to add a test so that the b43 driver is not loaded if the firmware is not in /lib/firmware (ready for use). This prevents the b43-firmware-related shutdown hang if the firmware is not ready, making the implementation safe no matter where the b43 firmware is.
Richard
precise_broadcom_experiment-5-6delta.pet
Description  Additional refinement to experiment-4 and 5delta, to switch driver wl to b43 during first boot-up.
Applies to BCM4312 wifi device (which may be named BCM4311).
No firmware relocation, but switches drivers immediately only if b43 firmware is ready.
pet

 Download 
Filename  precise_broadcom_experiment-5-6delta.pet 
Filesize  2.16 KB 
Downloaded  255 Time(s) 
precise_broadcom_experiment-5delta.pet
Description  Addition to experiment-4, to switch driver wl to b43 during first boot-up.
Applies to BCM4312 wifi device (which may be named BCM4311).
pet

 Download 
Filename  precise_broadcom_experiment-5delta.pet 
Filesize  2.9 KB 
Downloaded  290 Time(s) 
precise_broadcom_experiment-4.pet
Description  Driver selection logic.
Includes brcm driver for P-pup 5.3.3.3, kernel 3.3.2, so do not use on P-pup 5.2.55-kernel 3.2.x.
Corrects edit of firmware.dep for b44 entry.
pet

 Download 
Filename  precise_broadcom_experiment-4.pet 
Filesize  227.72 KB 
Downloaded  330 Time(s) 
precise_broadcom_experiment-4a-wl_only.pet
Description 
pet

 Download 
Filename  precise_broadcom_experiment-4a-wl_only.pet 
Filesize  3.39 KB 
Downloaded  318 Time(s) 
precise_broadcom_experiment-4b-brcm_only.pet
Description 
pet

 Download 
Filename  precise_broadcom_experiment-4b-brcm_only.pet 
Filesize  225.51 KB 
Downloaded  319 Time(s) 

Last edited by rerwin on Sat 14 Jul 2012, 12:16; edited 5 times in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
peebee


Joined: 21 Sep 2008
Posts: 1515
Location: Worcestershire, UK

PostPosted: Fri 01 Jun 2012, 04:28    Post subject: Re: Broadcom wifi driver management experiments  

rerwin wrote:
Thanks for any feedback you can provide.
Richard


Hi Richard

Experiment 4 works as expected on my HP550 laptop.

Pristine, frugal install - loaded Exp4 pet - rebooted.

wl driver loaded and in use - wpa connection established with Frisbee.

Survived reboot

Blacklisted wl - rebooted - b43 loaded and in use and Frisbee established a connection automatically

Blacklisted b43 - rebooted - no wifi loaded

Unblacklisted both b43 and wl - rebooted - wl back in use

Cheers
Peter

p.s. notice that BK has now compiled kernel 3.2.18 under Precise Alpha 3 with I have enabled the brcm network drivers

_________________
LxPup-14.10 = Puppy + LXDE
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website 
BarryK
Puppy Master


Joined: 09 May 2005
Posts: 7082
Location: Perth, Western Australia

PostPosted: Sat 02 Jun 2012, 20:55    Post subject:  

Precise Puppy 5.2.58 (beta1) is out:

http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02856

Note, it has the brcm and wl modules, but doesn't have any of the resolution logic that you guys have been working out with rerwin.

_________________
http://bkhome.org/news/
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website 
peebee


Joined: 21 Sep 2008
Posts: 1515
Location: Worcestershire, UK

PostPosted: Sun 03 Jun 2012, 04:43    Post subject:  

BarryK wrote:
Precise Puppy 5.2.58 (beta1) is out:

http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02856

Note, it has the brcm and wl modules, but doesn't have any of the resolution logic that you guys have been working out with rerwin.


Hi Barry

Don't think wl.ko is in the iso.....

I've compiled and uploaded a multi-kernel version:
which includes Precise 5.2.58 k3.2.18

This includes the latest rerwin logic.

Cheers
peebee

_________________
LxPup-14.10 = Puppy + LXDE

Last edited by peebee on Sun 03 Jun 2012, 18:59; edited 2 times in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website 
BarryK
Puppy Master


Joined: 09 May 2005
Posts: 7082
Location: Perth, Western Australia

PostPosted: Sun 03 Jun 2012, 06:21    Post subject:  

peebee wrote:
BarryK wrote:
Precise Puppy 5.2.58 (beta1) is out:

http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02856

Note, it has the brcm and wl modules, but doesn't have any of the resolution logic that you guys have been working out with rerwin.


Hi Barry

Don't think wl.ko is in the iso.....

I've compiled and uploaded a compatible version:
Precise 5.2.58 k3.2.18 Upload 0306120920 [wlan0]

This includes the latest rerwin logic.


Oh, yes of course. Thanks for the PET.

Why is the module in /opt? Why can't it be inside /lib/modules/3.2.18?

_________________
http://bkhome.org/news/
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website 
tronkel


Joined: 30 Sep 2005
Posts: 1104
Location: Vienna Austria

PostPosted: Sun 03 Jun 2012, 06:41    Post subject: ATI fglrx hack
Subject description: for those with ati video problems
 

Just been playing with the latest Precise Beta 5.2.38 released earlier today. Another li'l beaut. Like its Upup predecessors nice and snappy!

Just as with Ubuntu Precise Pangolin itself the ATI video card causes grief - nothing new here. With ATI graphics under Linux you have two choices. Either install the open source Radeon driver or the proprietary FGLRX driver. The current Radeon open source driver has been broken in recent kernel versions - so that just leaves the proprietary option.

You need to have both the devx and the kernel sources activated on your system. The bad news is that it does build - but with errors that result in an extremely slow frame rate performance.

The better news is that there is a tiny hack available that seems to work around the problem - see here:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=77735

It has rescued me on more than one occasion. So thanks for the tip - well worth a try if you're experiencing this sort of problem with ATI.

This is ilewis's first forum post actually.

_________________
Life is too short to spend it in front of a computer
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website AIM Address 
peebee


Joined: 21 Sep 2008
Posts: 1515
Location: Worcestershire, UK

PostPosted: Sun 03 Jun 2012, 07:29    Post subject:  

BarryK wrote:
Why is the module in /opt? Why can't it be inside /lib/modules/3.2.18?


It enables me to build multi kernel versions for puppies like slacko which come with 2 kernel flavours - and I like to keep the same template for all puppies I am supporting. The pinstall hard links the wl.ko to the correct version for the kernel.

shinobar uses a similar but I think less elegant technique for his nvidia sfs's which also support multi kernels but you end up with lots of surplus /lib/modules/ kernel specific directories.

If there is a better way to support multi-kernels with one pet when the drivers are kernel dependent then I'm ready and eager to learn.

[Later edit] - I have now extended the technique to make a single mutli-kernel version of the driver - this uses a base-driver and xdelta3 delta files to create the kernel specific drivers at install time. See here[/edit]

Cheers
peebee

_________________
LxPup-14.10 = Puppy + LXDE

Last edited by peebee on Sun 03 Jun 2012, 19:06; edited 2 times in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website 
rjbrewer


Joined: 22 Jan 2008
Posts: 4422
Location: merriam, kansas

PostPosted: Sun 03 Jun 2012, 13:08    Post subject:  

A non-pae version with i810 xorg drivers would be
nice to try.

_________________

Inspiron 700m, Pent.M 1.6Ghz, 1Gb ram.
Msi Wind U100, N270 1.6>2.0Ghz, 1.5Gb ram.
Eeepc 8g 701, 900Mhz, 1Gb ram.
Full installs

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
rerwin


Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Posts: 1536
Location: Maine, USA

PostPosted: Sun 03 Jun 2012, 15:49    Post subject: Re: Broadcom wifi driver management experiments  

I just now discovered a minor bug in the experiment-4 package that modifies the firmware.dep file incorrectly, affecting 2 entries for Broadcom wifi and ethernet. I have re-uploaded experiment-4 with the correction to the relevant edit command.

To the first 6 downloaders: If you need the corrected package, please re-download the replaced copy of the experment-4 pet package, from here.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=630889#630889

The bug should not affect you unless your Broadcom device uses either of the b43legacy or b44 drivers. To correct the problem directly, please edit /etc/modules/firmware.dep.<kernel version>. The incorrect entries are
Code:
b43legacy
b44:b44.ko:b43legacy.ko
But should be
Code:
b43legacy:b43legacy.ko
b44:b44.ko


Sorry for letting that slip through.
Richard
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
rerwin


Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Posts: 1536
Location: Maine, USA

PostPosted: Fri 13 Jul 2012, 22:05    Post subject: Broadcom driver management code updated to experiment 6  

I have added minor mods to the set of packages to automate the selection of the appropriate Broadcom wifi driver, "experiment-5-6delta" above:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=630889#630889

Just be sure that you have installed experiment-4, then 5delta, then 5-6delta. I am using multiple deltas because pemasu has been including each level in various exprimo versions. You need install only those of these packages not already installed.

We discovered that the b43 firmware needs to be in place in /lib/firmware before the first boot-up of a puppy. Otherwise, the driver failure due to the absence of the firmware seems to result in a serious hang during shutdown. If you have a Broadcom 4312 (aka, 4311) wifi device that produces a failure message (in dmesg), try making a remaster of a fresh puppy plus packages -4, -5delta and -5-6delta, to see the benefit of its connecting on the first boot-up.
Richard
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
lassie


Joined: 11 Jul 2012
Posts: 2

PostPosted: Tue 17 Jul 2012, 05:15    Post subject: Re: Broadcom driver management code updated to experiment 6  

rerwin wrote:
I have added minor mods to the set of packages to automate the selection of the appropriate Broadcom wifi driver, "experiment-5-6delta" above:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=630889#630889

I will try this with my BCM4311, great that you try to automate the setup Smile

I have tried to get this chip working wireless for months now. Sometimes it is okay even for a couple of reboots, but most of the times the card isn't found at all when checking with 'lspci'.

What I have found out is what you wrote:
1). The card needs to be detected, probably with 'broadcom_wl-K3.1.10-slacko_4gA' and 'ssb' in the ADDLIST. But that only works sometimes (and I don't understand when the success happends)
2). When the card is detected, 'wl' has to be removed and instead 'b43' has to be activated (with 'modprobe')
3). Then I see the wireless networks and are able to connect.

Now I will try your package!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
Display posts from previous:   Sort by:   
Page 24 of 25 [373 Posts]   Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3, ..., 22, 23, 24, 25 Next
Post new topic   Reply to topic View previous topic :: View next topic
 Forum index » Advanced Topics » Puppy Derivatives
Jump to:  

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
[ Time: 0.1126s ][ Queries: 13 (0.0103s) ][ GZIP on ]