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Lobster
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PostPosted: Sun 29 May 2005, 10:09    Post_subject: If a Lobster can - anyone can  

Cool

I installed Vector 5.0 Beta. I was not expecting much (it seems I had already installed - or attempted to install 4.3 at an earlier time and either been unsuccessful or unimpressed - seem to remember I was unable)

Anyways - 4.3 is one little Beast.

Barry said Vector Linux is fantastic. It is. Not as fast as our little dog for sure but very pleasing to use and very similar to a Puppy on Ice with a fluxxy box nearby . . .

Barry has made it the official environment for development compiling - so he is happy. GuestToo is already using Vector. I hope John Murga will be happy with it, I certainly am - just have to learn how to compile some source code now . . . in my quest and dreams to be semi-developer

Jesses is getting all excited about a potential GUI front end for tinycc - it is all go . . .

We can learn about presentation from Vector. I must say slypheed claws is a lot better looking than sylpheed - is it a lot bigger?

So pleased I decided to download and install Vector 5.0 Beta
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PostPosted: Sun 29 May 2005, 16:43    Post_subject: So.. What to use?  

Hi,

I'm New to the forum.

I've been playing with Puppy for a little while and finally decided to start compiling the drivers and applications I'd like to use with Puppy.

( I also want to send it to my father for him to try linux and I want to be prepared in case he needs extra drivers)

I've already installed VL5.0STD. and have Mandriva LE2005.

I've been using 1.0.1, Should I start using 1.0.3 to compile in VL5.0STD. Can I compile for 1.0.1 in VL5STD while 1.0.3 is published?

On the desktop I am a Fedora Core 3 user.

It's funny that I decided to go heads down into Puppy at a crossroads.

Thanks for the advice and I hope to be around here more fequently as I really like this puppy.
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PostPosted: Mon 30 May 2005, 08:44    Post_subject:  

Well, you can compile apps in VL5 or Mandriva, but beware of slightly different library versions. GTK 2.4 and XML2 are two to watch out for.

You can't compile kernel drivers for Pup yet, as you will need to install the same kernel on VL5 as Pup 1.0.3 will be using ... which is not yet finalised.
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PostPosted: Wed 22 Jun 2005, 22:35    Post_subject:  

I currently don't have an environment set up for compiling for 1.0.3

would a previous version of VL (4.3 for example) be a good choice of distro to build for the 2.4 kernel in 1.0.3?

Do you know of any distros that might be using a kernel close enough to puppy 1.0.3 that I could grab a precompiled app off them?

EDIT: I just saw on the Project page that apps compiled for Mandrake 9.2 have a good chance of working for puppy, so if that's till true I think I'll start there.

EDIT AGAIN: Feather Linux runs kernel 2.4.27 too so maybe we can borrow from there too.

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PostPosted: Thu 23 Jun 2005, 02:22    Post_subject:  

The kernel isn't a "real big" issue when compiling apps.....As long as the gcc versions are "close" and the required libraries are there there is not too much of a problem.

Tho I did have trouble compiling a 2.4.27 kernel with gcc 3.4.3......but that's not much of a concern....

If anyone wants a custom kernel or module compiled just drop me a line and we'll go from there.
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PostPosted: Fri 24 Jun 2005, 13:18    Post_subject:  

some new wireless NICs start to use rt2500 chipset, a native driver for Puppy would be a plus

bladehunter wrote:

If anyone wants a custom kernel or module compiled just drop me a line and we'll go from there.
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PostPosted: Fri 15 Jul 2005, 18:07    Post_subject:  

Hi,

A little while ago I got Puppy and was very impressed with the level of usefulness in it.
So I came back to see if any new release was going out and found this news about Vector Linux...


Well, it turns out that I am regular contributor to VL (not a coder tho), and of course it is very
nice to see that you are using it as your compiling environment.

It would be great if both projects can help each other, Vec (Vector's leader) feels the same way about this.

Feel free to contact me or step by our forums Smile.
Let me know.

Best regards. UKBill.
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PostPosted: Fri 15 Jul 2005, 22:22    Post_subject: Vector  

Cool

Perhaps there is code or coding that is required on both distros?
Perhaps there is graphics and other resouces that can be shared?

For me it is a question of looking at what another distro is doing well and emulating and improving within the potential of a particular distro.

As you are familiar with both distros, what do you feel we can learn gain from Vector? (I suppose the same question (but altered slightly) could be asked on the Vector forum.

Smile

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PostPosted: Wed 20 Jul 2005, 03:43    Post_subject:  

Well for one maybe package management we have a modified checkinstall in VL that not only produces packages from source also finds the deps and makes a nice litlle slack tgz file that slapt-get can understand. As your distro matures you will find installing packages will become a much bigger deal than anticipated..WE have the tools already in place but i would like to see the niche players agree on a package management system we can all benefit from my vote is slapt-get (also gslapt) and the slackware tgz package system. Just my 2 cents worth.
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PostPosted: Wed 20 Jul 2005, 14:34    Post_subject:  

I installed Vector Linux 4.3 and thought it was a nice OS. I couldn't get it to run properly on my cursed little old laptop, so I kept looking for an alternative. I ran across another nice Slackware-based distro called Minislack. It's very well put together, but is much more hands-on than Vector (especially in package management). Still, both are nice, and I think Vector would be a good partner for Puppy.
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PostPosted: Thu 28 Jul 2005, 16:35    Post_subject:  

Is Vector going to have a Linux 2.6.x version out soon?

Thanks-
-Craig
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PostPosted: Thu 28 Jul 2005, 17:42    Post_subject:  

Craig wrote:
Is Vector going to have a Linux 2.6.x version out soon?

I should think you could compile your own.. Anyway, I am running the Dynamite release of VL and it comes with a 2.6 option. You cannot chose it during the installation, but it shows up in the bootloader

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PostPosted: Fri 29 Jul 2005, 14:42    Post_subject: Vector 5.1 Standard Edition  

Vector 5.1 Standard Edition came out on Tuesday

Kernel 2.6.12
Glibc-2.3.4
Xorg-6.8.2
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PostPosted: Tue 24 Apr 2012, 00:43    Post_subject:  

Barry, I'm just reading this all and need to comfirm this. Are you moving away from T2?
What package management are you trying to work with? The PPM can be recoded to incorporate others. I did it.
I'd love a team to help code a new Package manager that doesn't exist and would work for ALL distros. Most of the code and program exists, it just needs a small modification to become this creation.

I'm trying to capture what has given puppy its greatest strengths...and then force it to breed with Slitaz and sabayon in a staged deployment system(puppy is integral in scaling for a range systems). Honestly, Im ready for a new system that ALL nix users can come together on. Puppy forum has been THEE learning ground for THE BEST linux distro scripting. Period. NOT the cleanest per say, but the most evolving scripts and interfaces out there guys. IT has played a big role in what else has gone on. The others all have major strengths to contribute too. ...Too much seperation of the linux group. Especially in the primary objective of a Open source full alternative to the rest. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue 24 Apr 2012, 03:35    Post_subject:  

This thread is from 2005, which in Internet time = aprox 1850 Wink

Barry is currently compiling for a completely different processor
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02799
A package manager/appet for Arch, Debian, Android and Puppy would be most welcome . . . Smile
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/PuppySchoolRaspberryPi

x86 developing too
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/PuppyVersionIndex

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