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PostPosted: Sat 21 Apr 2012, 21:41    Post subject:  
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PostPosted: Sat 21 Apr 2012, 22:11    Post subject:  
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Your SD trouble and solution surly will save me at least a week in agony! Thanks.
re: surly solution: yeah that the swiss part coming out. Very Happy . i think swiss lobsters are called tarantulas. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun 22 Apr 2012, 08:09    Post subject:  
Lobster wrote:
I am trying Arch
and so far I have
updated Arch
downloaded and 'installed' the jwm window manager
the configuration for jwm is in /etc/system.jwmrc
and I have looked at it with nano - a cli editor

not sure how to get jwm running . . . Confused
Any ideas?

it needs a display option
something like jwm -display vesa30


I've also got this far? Have you worked out how to do it?
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PostPosted: Sun 22 Apr 2012, 10:18    Post subject:  
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Have you worked out how to do it?


No.
JWM has to read the config file and this has to be set up.

For now I am back on the Debian.
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PostPosted: Sun 22 Apr 2012, 10:26    Post subject:  
Lobster wrote:

JWM has to read the config file and this has to be set up.

For now I am back on the Debian.


Ok Smile
I have joined the Arch forum. May get some help there!
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PostPosted: Sun 22 Apr 2012, 13:22    Post subject:  
I have JWM running on Arch Arm. My .jwmrc is pretty useless, points to lots of stuff that isn't there!
I can open a terminal though. Next job is to get ROX working.
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PostPosted: Sun 22 Apr 2012, 18:53    Post subject:  
I've got rox working now as well as geany and the Python Idle!
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PostPosted: Sun 22 Apr 2012, 19:24    Post subject:  
antiloquax wrote:
I've got rox working now as well as geany and the Python Idle!
were happy for you antiloquax but it would also be helpful if you could document your breakthroughs so we can follow. tell us how as well.
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PostPosted: Mon 23 Apr 2012, 01:36    Post subject:  
Sorry aarf Embarassed
Well, first of all I extracted the root file system from the arch image.
Run the command:
Code:
file archlinuxarm-19-04-2012.img

This will tell you that there are two partitions. We want to extract the second one, which is ext3.
Code:
dd if=archlinuxarm-19-04-2012.img of=arch.ext3 skip=<start sector> count=<end sector>

Now I have found that this doesn't always work first time. To check your file, try:
Code:
gparted arch.ext3

If gparted shows an ext3 partition, good. If not, try again. When you have successfully got a file-system in arch.ext3, you can run it in qemu.
Next you need a kernel. This one works.
I logged in as root.
Then I installed a few things:
pacman -S xorg-server xorg-xinit xorg-server-utils xf86-video-fbdev
That should make it possible to run jwm. Then I got xterm and rox
pacman -S xterm rox
Now if you run:
xinit /usr/bin jwm
JWM should start. Most of the menu items don't work (they point at programs that are not there!) But you should be able to launch the terminal and then run rox from there.

I am on a steep learning curve here!
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PostPosted: Mon 23 Apr 2012, 02:24    Post subject:  
well done antiloquax
thanks for the info
Smile

The steeper the curve, the better the view.

. . . meanwhile in Debian I installed synaptic.
. . . it was so slow I went to watch some paint dry for light relief . . .
eventually midori and snaptic collapsed and locked up the pi

Learned some more apt-get commands,
looked for squeeze ARM lists online
- just going to the right FTP servers might be quicker then zzzznaptic
will try again with snaptic - need to know what progs are available . . .

To credit Debian, Scratch is fast
and the Rpi is designed as a teaching computer
so Debian are focused
There is also an emphasis on Python editors and tools

For Raspberry PupPy we have a series of spec to work towards:

Run in the 256MB ram of the Pi
This means we can lock the SD card if we wish and write to a second device for config and data e.g. a keydrive. It also means calling from memory cache rather than SD
Recognizable Puppy scripts and programs

JWM - Joes Window Manager
Rox File Manager

Puppy Package Manager and/or ARMpet based on Quickpet/Slickpet
Puppy Control Panel

Puppy Soft Phone
Puppy GROWL Security
Mhwavedit
MoManager - create non-English Puppy

Puppy Cloud support, Meebo, Gmail, Yahoo, IRC etc
Transmission bit torrent
Emergency Yodel button - optional Embarassed
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PostPosted: Mon 23 Apr 2012, 04:51    Post subject:  
The name of rox in Debian Squeeze .deb = rox-filer
used apt-get install rox-filer

The Pi now has Rox

Puppy Linux
Rox
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PostPosted: Mon 23 Apr 2012, 05:03    Post subject:  
Lobster wrote:

The Pi now has Rox

Puppy Linux
Rox


Very Happy Very Happy
I'm going to try to get mtpaint on my qemu Arch Pi later today. Also I need to wrestly with jwm and rox so that I can get a desktop image and some icons on it. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Mon 23 Apr 2012, 06:24    Post subject:  
I need a bit of help!
I have been editing system.jmrc, but I realise that I should have set up something else (is it __root__.jmrc or something?)
Anyway, if anyone can tell me how, or where to look, I'd appreciate it.

So far I have changed the menus so they only show the things that work (geany, rox and Python). I've also changed the start menu label to "PupPy". This version of arch doesn't seem to have many icons included, but I have a menu icon for geany!

I've made the desktop a nice red colour and written an xorg.conf so I have an 800x600 screen. Wallpaper will have to wait until I get home (I don't have internet on the set-up I am using at the moment).

I would like to know how to get the pinboard working. So far I cannot put things on the desktop.
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PostPosted: Mon 23 Apr 2012, 07:08    Post subject:  
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I have been editing system.jmrc, but I realise that I should have set up something else (is it __root__.jmrc or something?


look in etc/system.jwmrc

meanwhile . . . installed chromium-browser in Debian Squeeze
So far faster and more reliable than the default midori
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PostPosted: Mon 23 Apr 2012, 09:14    Post subject:  
dia running OK
mhwaveedit below message. OK understood - drivers needed
Code:
root@raspberrypi:/home/pi# mhwaveedit
jack_client_new: deprecated
Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
Cannot connect to server socket
jack server is not running or cannot be started
jack_client_new: deprecated
Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
Cannot connect to server socket
jack server is not running or cannot be started
socket(): Address family not supported by protocol

(mhwaveedit:1954): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "murrine",


The program did come on screen and ran
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