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#161 Post by Lobster »

Thanks guys this is the procedure I successfully used
to get mtpaint running.
Did not want to change the password.
There are quite a few terminals in Squeeze and I eventually used the first one available 'Lxterminal'

sudo su
(password = raspberry)
apt-get update
apt-get install mtpaint

mtpaint (as an example)
can then be run from the terminal
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#162 Post by sickgut »

im glad that the Pi has analogue video output (i can use my TV!!) and USB port and a proper ethernet connector.

What springs to mind here is the potential to create a linux gaming platform similar to a console like the Xbox or PS2 etc. Consoles in the past have always had sucky CPU and RAM but good video chip, just like the Rasp Pi.
The Rasp Pi will be shipping with a case soon so it will even kind of look like a console.

after creating a small server / console pussy linux for this device, i will proceed to see just what selection of gaming software runs well on it and then release an OS that has the best ones all installed and working.

I have one of these thingies ordered and now its just a matter of time.

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#163 Post by Lobster »

sickgut 8)
hope you are not stressing.

I know about stress. My adrenals are maxed out just because a bit of hardware was doing strange things . . .

Basically the 5v 1000mA PSU does not have enough oomph (a technical term) to run the keyboard from the hub . . .
http://www.raspberrypi.org/forum/absolu ... rd/#p65210
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#164 Post by sickgut »

Lobster wrote:sickgut 8)
hope you are not stressing.

I know about stress. My adrenals are maxed out just because a bit of hardware was doing strange things . . .

Basically the 5v 1000mA PSU does not have enough oomph (a technical term) to run the keyboard from the hub . . .
http://www.raspberrypi.org/forum/absolu ... rd/#p65210
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i seen a youtube vid showing the user is: pi and the pass is: raspberry

yes this is lame. WTF? would have made more sense to have user raspberry and pass pi.

Thanks for the heads up bud, i suspect that a usb hub that is powered will sort the problem out.

For the benefit of those reading the forum here yes there are two types of USB hubs. The normal type is non powered, its just a USB splitter kind of thing that turns one usb port into 4 or however many.

The second type is the powered type, its a usb splitter but also with its own power supply. These are more expensive ($14 compared to $4 on ebay for example)... but let you run USB devices without draining power from your motherboard.

I actually ran into this problem with my desktop computer believe it or not. Living in a very humid environment degrades the power supply gradually and after 10 years the 12 volt rails where supplying 11.5v and the 5 volt rails 4.8 volt and the 3.3 motherboard/ cpu voltage to 3.2v.....
when it was new, it supplied voltages slightly above the rating, now its below. When i attached an external 2.5" usb portable hdd with no separate power supply it would run fine but after a day or two it would error out and the hdd would go missing from the OS and it results in a reboot, when i attached another hdd like this then this issue happend every couple of hours and my usb mouse was spasmotic and would just switch off and switch back on all the time due to not enough power.

after buying a powered usb hub and running the mouse and hdd's from it, everythings fine and reliable again.

Personally i think people are better off with separate power for usb attachments than buying a more beefy power adaptor to run the rasp from to do the same thing.

Hope you get it sorted lobbie

(ps. i spose yall could get around the problem by running wireless attachments rather than normal wired ones as they usually have their own power via batteries etc. I personally hate anything wireless. The bible prophecy says wireless tech is the 666 devil. No it doesnt but i just like to say stuff like that to make wireless things to sound bad. I just dont think its healthy to have a microwave transmitter near you all day.)

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#165 Post by sickgut »

aarf wrote:
Lobster wrote:
Why is it displaying sdc1 on screen (the parameter I used) and yet sdc is the correct input?
from the previous post from pussy
The syntax for using dd to image a drive is:

dd if=<filename.img> of=/dev/sdX

Where <filename> is the USB image filename and the X in the /dev/sdX is the drive letter. Note you must specify the drive
NOT the partition on the drive (ie. /dev/sda not /dev/sda1) this is because the .img file contains partition info already.

dd and nano are the 2 greatest apps for linux of all time, i use:

dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc

on my usb stick every few days just because i can

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#166 Post by Lobster »

For the benefit of those reading the forum here yes there are two types of USB hubs. The normal type is non powered, its just a USB splitter kind of thing that turns one usb port into 4 or however many.
I read about the powered USB hubs but for a USB keydrive and mouse, I seem to be able to use the unpowered.

I tried to apt-get some more programs
No Seamonkey, firefox or Opera - how do I get a listing of packages similar to what I am looking for or browsers?
I used something called aptitutde yesterday but I have no aptitude for it. :wink:
Inkscape seems the only program available but it took up too much space . . . que? I have a four gig SD card. Is the pi user space likely to be limited? Ah well, I purged and autocleaned barely knowing what I am up to but no luck.

I am off to find a simple bit of script to run from the command line.
I am using the command line more in the last couple of days than the previous year. If only I was more able.

I asked rpi to send Barry a Pi board - I hope they did. He is back tomorrow.

The Rpi is a fabulous pice of kit because of two expansion cables as well as pins to connect to stuff [stuff is a technical term]

Been sunny and rainy - sunny now - time to take the Raspberry Puppy board for a walk . . .
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#167 Post by rcrsn51 »

Lobster wrote:I tried to apt-get some more programs. No Seamonkey, firefox or Opera - how do I get a listing of packages similar to what I am looking for or browsers?.
Look in the file /etc/apt/sources.list.

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#168 Post by sickgut »

rcrsn51 wrote:
Lobster wrote:I tried to apt-get some more programs. No Seamonkey, firefox or Opera - how do I get a listing of packages similar to what I am looking for or browsers?.
Look in the file /etc/apt/sources.list.
all the browsers are there, but debian has different names for them all:

iceweasel = firefox
iceape = seamonkey

so use apt-get update first, then try:

apt-get install iceweasel

there are other ice-browsers dunno what the other names are, there is some disagreement or licencing problem that debian had to work around or something. However, the iceweasel in the debian squeeze repo is version 3. something (this is how it is in the normal debain repos, dunno about ARM), firefox is version 11 now but the debian repos lag behind. However you may find that if you go to seamonkey website you can download the source and compile it.

Is midori the default browser in debian raspberry pi?

midori is by far the fastest loading and scores 100% on the html acid test, but the only drawback i can tell is it doesnt support java. (supports java script ofcause but not java.. they 2 different things).

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#169 Post by sickgut »

antiloquax wrote:
Lobster wrote:In Debian Squeeze
I need to be su to use apt-get or aptitude

Tried return (no password)
raspberry (it should be this surely)
and suse (I think that was for the previous debian not sure why)
sudo passwd

Then you can set root password.
:)
also sudo -i should give you root without need for password

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#170 Post by Lobster »

Look in the file /etc/apt/sources.list.
not much in there
or in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
m m m . . .
Is midori the default browser in debian raspberry pi
Yes it is. It was chosen because of its speed

Today I copied over a bash script - very simple
and ran it OK
Getting familiar with the hardware
and remembering any cli skills I may once have had.

gcc is in Squeeze
various editors - geany, leafpad - also python editors

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#171 Post by antiloquax »

Hi Lobster,
I have been trying to compile JWM in my virtual RPi. I ran into problems at the "./configure" stage - it couldn't find X11. I set the options to look in "/usr/include" and "/usr/lib" but that didn't help.
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#172 Post by Lobster »

Mark
We will be disorganizing soon . . . :wink:
can not help with the jwm question - too ignorant - me that is, not you

Just remember, the skills you are developing, will be so useful when the hardware arrives.

I was very pleased to hear that Eben was delivering the first Rpi batch to kids. The geeks kids will be our teachers, advisers and fellow travelers.
I know everyone wants hardware but moving towards a demand for hundreds of thousands of boards has been handled openly and was a smart move by the Rpi foundation. There is now hope for all.

OK got to make you green now . . .
gonna power up the TV and Rpi board :mrgreen:
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#173 Post by rokytnji »

@lobster

Code: Select all

apt-cache policy (browser name or application name goes here)
should narrow things down a bunch. for the big list. Go to Search for packages

on this page



http://wiki.debian.org/AptCLI#Search_for_packages

and for reference.

http://www.debian.org/doc/ddp

I've been a AntiX user for ages.

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#174 Post by rokytnji »

@ antiloquax

Have you tried the command

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locate X11
I know it spits out a lot. Maybe you can find where to look.[/code]

Edit: by the way. X11 folder usually sits in /etc folder in Debian.

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#175 Post by sickgut »

re: jwm in debian
dont have to compile
the whole idea of running debian is that you can install all your basic packages automatically via the command: apt-get install

so just use: apt-get install jwm
and it will be installed and configured and work immediately

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#176 Post by eternal-sunshine »

Quote:
Is midori the default browser in debian raspberry pi

Yes it is. It was chosen because of its speed
But does this version do SSL? In other words what happens when you go to an https site?

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#177 Post by antiloquax »

sickgut wrote:re: jwm in debian
dont have to compile
the whole idea of running debian is that you can install all your basic packages automatically via the command: apt-get install

so just use: apt-get install jwm
and it will be installed and configured and work immediately
Thanks - I am running RPi Debian under qemu (without network). I'll check the repos again - and see if I can do it that way. I have a virtual usb drive that I can use to pass things to my Virtual Pi.

Do I have to use a specific Debian ARM repo? ANd where is it? Sorry for my ignorance ...
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#178 Post by antiloquax »

rokytnji wrote:@ antiloquax

Have you tried the command

Code: Select all

locate X11
I know it spits out a lot. Maybe you can find where to look.[/code]

Edit: by the way. X11 folder usually sits in /etc folder in Debian.
I did look in /etc - it didn't seem to be there. I did find X11 folders in /usr/lib and /usr/include. Thanks for your help.
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#179 Post by Dave_G »

Lobster

Glad to hear that Squeeze has gcc, any idea which version?
Depending also which version of Bash is being used, I suspect that
BaCon can be used on the Pi.

Any CLI editors like nano on there?

Sorry about all the questions but you're the only one around here
that actually has a Pi.

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#180 Post by Lobster »

Thanks guys for info
.
In the land of the raspberries for this post.
Just tried to send an email from gmail.
It no working from midori - no idea why (worked from my ipad)

I tried apt-get install jwm
and it would have worked but I have run out of space to install it.
How? I dunno . . .
On the forum the animated emoticons (on the left) are flickering rather than animated gfs - sort of pre animation . . .

Also to boot up I had to use sudo su
- so i may reinstall two copies of Squeeze (one backup)
and start again

then the plan is try some more bash scripting . . .
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