Puppy Linux Discussion Forum Forum Index Puppy Linux Discussion Forum
Puppy HOME page : puppylinux.com
"THE" alternative forum : puppylinux.info
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

The time now is Fri 25 Jul 2014, 12:00
All times are UTC - 4

 Forum index » House Training » Users ( For the regulars )
Is our Puppy community aware of JAVA's direction?
Moderators: Flash, Ian, JohnMurga
Post new topic   Reply to topic View previous topic :: View next topic
Page 1 of 1 [6 Posts]  
Author Message
gcmartin

Joined: 14 Oct 2005
Posts: 4088
Location: Earth
PostPosted: Sat 14 Apr 2012, 19:28    Post subject:  Is our Puppy community aware of JAVA's direction?  
I have been informed at a recent seminar that the current direction of the Linux (and PC) community is to use OpenJDK under ALL circumstances for compatibility with sPhones, xPad, Tablets, and other futures in computing.

I looked up its history, here

My Question
Has anyone of our community developers produced an PET with this Open-Sourced Java provision?

Thanks in advance
_________________
Get ACTIVE Create Circles; Do those good things which benefit people's needs!
We are all related ... Its time to show that we know this!
3 Different Puppy Search Engine or use DogPile
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
Terryphi


Joined: 02 Jul 2008
Posts: 759
Location: West Wales, Britain.
PostPosted: Sun 15 Apr 2012, 01:24    Post subject:  
Does anyone still use Java? I always found it painfully slow and cursed website developers who used it. I do not have it on any of my systems.
_________________
Classic Opera 12.16 browser SFS package for Precise, Slacko, Racy, Wary, Lucid, Quirky, etc available here Smile
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website 
Lobster
Official Crustacean


Joined: 04 May 2005
Posts: 15117
Location: Paradox Realm
PostPosted: Sun 15 Apr 2012, 02:09    Post subject:  
Quote:
OpenJDK under ALL circumstances


Puppys make their own circumstances. Wink
Having said that, I believe we have to move towards Android (and therefore java) compatibility.
There is a loathing of Java bloat by many Puppy developers.
Many years ago I tried many cut down Java alternatives. None of them worked and the full Sun (at the time) SDK and run time Java was the only one guaranteed to work.
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/JavaRuntimeEnvironment

Java for PARM will be a necessary option.

Puppy Linux
Java Free and everything else Free
_________________
Puppy WIKI
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website 
antiloquax


Joined: 27 Jan 2012
Posts: 405
PostPosted: Sun 15 Apr 2012, 02:48    Post subject:  
I like Java and I am learning it at the moment.
I use JDK 7 on my system.
I'll have to look at installing OpenJDK.
Thanks for the heads-up!
mark
_________________
My System:Arch-Arm on RPi!
"RacyPy" puplet on Toshiba Tecra 8200. PIII, 256 MB RAM.
RaspberryPy: Lobster and I blog about the RPi.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
arcanis


Joined: 30 Oct 2011
Posts: 87
Location: Columbus, Ohio
PostPosted: Mon 16 Apr 2012, 15:12    Post subject:  
Yes. I've been watching this. I don't think openJDK works as nimbly as the old now non-free Javas did, but the differences are subtle and would probably not be noticed by the majority of people.

I continue to hope for the best, but as always, it is important to remain vigilant where proprietary software is being taken away from us and regulated by patents.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
gcmartin

Joined: 14 Oct 2005
Posts: 4088
Location: Earth
PostPosted: Mon 16 Apr 2012, 17:07    Post subject:  
I am not a developer. But, if OpenJDK was made available in Puppyland, I would begin to exercise it.

I have always run LIve-media PUPs in RAM. I've had 2 different occasions since my joining the community for which I have run 64bit PUPs for over 8 months separately, rebooting ONLY to save the running session back to LIve media. And, prior to those, I ran a 32bit PUPs for 7 months without the need to reboot.

Currently in Puppyland, I have seen several problems as follows:
  • some 32bit distos have shown issues where a JAVA release doesn't appear on a subsequest save-session-reboot.
  • some 32bit developers are NOT providing 32bit PETs for PPM installation; instead providing SFSs which require tools outside of the PPM.
  • some 32bit distros do NOT provdie a PPM REPO with any JAVA present
Hopefully, should someone provides us a solution, it will be in the form of a PET that can be installed via the PPM.

There are various useful tools already available in Puppyland which can run in a JAVA environment.
_________________
Get ACTIVE Create Circles; Do those good things which benefit people's needs!
We are all related ... Its time to show that we know this!
3 Different Puppy Search Engine or use DogPile
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
Display posts from previous:   Sort by:   
Page 1 of 1 [6 Posts]  
Post new topic   Reply to topic View previous topic :: View next topic
 Forum index » House Training » Users ( For the regulars )
Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group

[ Time: 0.0537s ][ Queries: 12 (0.0034s) ][ GZIP on ]