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pemasu · Joined: 08 Jul 2009 Posts: 5478 Location: Finland

I do use Thunderbird also...almost solely. But I use it from /mnt/home....I just drag the .thunderbird as symlink to the /root and drag the thunderbird script to the desktop. It works also without problem.

But...you can insert below command at the beginning of the thunderbird script:

davids45 · Joined: 26 Nov 2006 Posts: 941 Location: Chatswood, NSW

G'day,

Before I get rushed out for another Easter lunch, I've a quick query.

I've just tried 5x3.1.10.3 and have a problem with a Full install created from the Frugal directory (no CD involved in either install - Frugal created directly from mounted iso).

The Frugal goes well, however after using its Universal Installer to make a Full 5x31110.3 to an unused partition, during booting of this Full, I see the displayed text:

"Making file system usable ............................................ failed" (last word in orange text).

The boot continues and the Full start-up window appears but with a frozen mouse cursor. Or if the mouse starts initially, it soon freezes.

The Frugal does not have this problem.

Any idea of what this "failed" message means? I haven't seen it with the other Exprimo types nor any other Puppy, as far as I recall.

Thanks for any help,

David S.

pemasu · Joined: 08 Jul 2009 Posts: 5478 Location: Finland

Cant say what goes wrong. I would need to try it my self and start to debug. Reasons are so many. Missing libs, missing binaries can cause those kind problems. You should check the logs in /tmp and in /var/log if they would tell something more spesific.

backi · Joined: 27 Feb 2011 Posts: 1110 Location: GERMANY

Hi pemasu !
Found the same problems like David45.
Tried to make full install 5X3.1.10.3 and also 5X3.2.11 from live cd using universal installer ,tried also from Usb stick . Same problems as David 45 reported.
Managed to install both Dpups ,after startup they worked( mouse worked) Did shutting down -saving .
After new booting mouse was froozen could only use touchpad.
The courious thing about it , i had before both versions installed full ,and they worked.
(sometimes i just playing -experimenting with different distroes)
After a new installation i recognized same issues as mentioned above ."Making file system usable ............................................ failed" (last word in orange text).

After a while i gave up to look for solution and tried frugal install to harddisk
Works fine .

James C · Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 6696 Location: Kentucky

You know me, I'll test everything..... Laughing

Starting a test full install of 5.X.3.1.10.3 on an old P4 test box.

Side note........I don't really care for the new booting of the live cd.But, it may just be me.....

More when the install gets done.(copying files to sda8 at the moment).

charlie6 · Joined: 30 Jun 2008 Posts: 1148 Location: South of Belgium

Hi Pemasu !
Upon attempt to get a full install, got also the same message :
"Making file system usable ............................................ failed"
Could meanwhile use the mouse and use Exprimo even to perform some compiling (withdev_x.sfs installed).
I did not report this as I thought the problem was here in my full install procedure.
Charlie
ps: I appreciate Exprimo very much; it is now here quite daily used. Thanks a lot for your work !

James C · Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 6696 Location: Kentucky

pemasu · Joined: 08 Jul 2009 Posts: 5478 Location: Finland

Thank you all of your reports. Keep them up coming. There definitively is something wrong with Dpup Exprimo - PUI - full install. What is the main factor...thats what we need to dig out.
I think that I dig my other laptop which has Saluki as full install. I did the first Saluki kernel compile with it and tested that it works with new - updated kernel in full install. I can use that comp for full install testing. It has single Turion 64 cpu and it is not very linux friendly - old acer ferrari laptop without screen - I need to use external monitor - its inbuild broadcom has evaded all my attempts to get it working - with many Puppies - but that is what I have got.

James C · Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 6696 Location: Kentucky

Can't do much with a frozen mouse but.......looking at the kernel log the ps/2 mouse was detected at line 497, keyboard at 510.

/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input1

Don't see any reference to when it quit working though.Detected the usb mouse at line 618 however a cursor never appeared.
Looking at logs gives me a headache..... Laughing

James C · Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 6696 Location: Kentucky

I booted into a frugal Exprimo install and I'm retrieving the logs..... I'll tar them up and attach them for your inspection.

But quickly, in the xerrs.log I noticed this

davids45 · Joined: 26 Nov 2006 Posts: 941 Location: Chatswood, NSW

G'day again,
Back from an as-usual excessive Easter lunch and "happy" to see my problem is shared, although no one is certain where the problem lies.

In case it is important, re the hardware, I'm using a desktop computer (ASUS P5G41T-M LX motherboard) and the mouse is a "Magic Magnetism" Tevion model (running through a USB port). When the mouse freezes - the cursor stops moving, but its red light is still on and its transponder's green LED blinks when I move the mouse.
I tried a Full 5x3.1.10.3 with two USB mice, rebooting after a freeze but once the Full has frozen, I could not get it going again with either mouse.

Another issue with my desktop is its Radeon HD5450 card needs the ATI proprietary driver if I want to see anything during Puppy shut-down with Lucid and Exprimo (Debian) based Pups. The default driver is OK but dies too quickly on shutting down. I think I found the mouse freezing with either graphics driver (default and proprietary) for the Full install attempts.
But I don't see how this would be affecting the mouse response.

Thanks for the replies, and I'll cross my fingers hoping for a simple answer - apart from just using a Frugal for 5x3.1.10.3 Very Happy

.

David S.

pemasu · Joined: 08 Jul 2009 Posts: 5478 Location: Finland

I do have Ati Mobility Radeon HD5650 in my laptop as the better one of my dual graphics. It behaves the same in most Puppies. It is due xorg radeon driver and the only solution for console state has been the proprietary ATI driver.

Jim1911 · Joined: 19 May 2008 Posts: 2460 Location: Texas, USA

Eathray · Joined: 06 Sep 2009 Posts: 708

pemasu,

Haven't been able to get Blender going. As far as I can tell, the only thing different between yours and mine is that I had used the .pet for Xorg High in the initial setup of Exprimo rather then the .sfs version, which you said you used.

Could that make a difference?

Anyway, I stuck the 2.4.9 Blender on for the kiddo from slackware, and that keeps him occupied for the moment, although not all the functions work.

I still want to get your 2.6.1 going, but just not sure what to try next...

Thanks

Eathray

pemasu · Joined: 08 Jul 2009 Posts: 5478 Location: Finland

Okay....now I have full install of 5.X.3.1.0.3 under fingers. And I managed to get usb cord optical mouse. And I get the same freezing at second boot. I checked with dmesg that the unplugging and replugging works just fine. So the problem is not there. Next I checked the /dev section. And...symlink mouse pointing to psaux was missing. So I created symlink from psaux to mouse and restarted X. I got my usb cord optical mouse back in function !
So there seems to be problem with device files creation or automatic deleting and recreation or....
I remember that there has been some changes in woof regarding them....but I really dont know much of /dev device file functionality.....yet.

But I suppose we are now in tracks.......