Wary/Racy 5.3RC2 (5.2.91)

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#221 Post by Sage »

The disappearing sr0 icon is back in Wary, the default overdriven resolution (1600x1200) remains in Racy (and Saluki).

PS. Thanks, Terri - started up 5x d/l from ibiblio, four were showing 2+ hrs, but one managed it in 15mins!

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Re: Puppy-Setup: change to UTF-8 does not get permanent

#222 Post by L18L »

BarryK wrote:
L18L wrote:
LaRioja wrote:I have installed Racy 5.2.90 on my AMD LE 1250 box and chose German locale in the Quick Setup but I accidentally did not tick UTF-8 Encoding. I changed this later in Puppy-Setup, but it doesn't get permanent. So on every reboot I have to change to UTF-8 again.
Is there something wrong?
Thanks for a hint.
Yes, there is something wrong, I have been trying to reproduce this in a similiar way.

racy 5.2.90 pfix=ram
chosen LANG: de_DE (without utf8)
saved to a new save file called racysave-de_DE.2fs

then reboot
and chosen racysave-de_DE.2fs

# cat /proc/cmdline
video=640x480 root=/dev/sda3 ro vga=normal pdev1=sda3
#
# echo $LANG
de_DE.UTF-8
#

repeated chooselocale (de_DE) several times

My observation:
change to non-UTF-8 does not get permanent

I don´t think this is specific to German.
Other languages, please test: changing to/from utf-8

Hope this will help locating the bug
I am not having any problem.

Running as a German user, I used quickcountry (symlink to quicksetup) to untick and tick the UTF-8 checkbox. There was no problem.

The problem may occur if you altered the initrd.gz the first time, to say de_DE-UTF-8, then that will be used at a reboot. QuickCountry/QuickSetup will offer to change the initrd.gz if you change the UTF-8 checkbox.
I like to confirm:
No problem if the offer to change initrd.gz is accepted !

Example: Change from de_AT to de_AT.utf8 only permanent if changed initrd.gz.

This leads to the idea:
I have decided wrong and LaRioja has decided wrong.
Why ask the user?
Always change it please without asking 8)

edit:
I have run xorgwizard without utf8, our (shinobar´s) trick OUTPUT_CHARSET=UTF-8 did not work in console :cry:

this is leading to the next ( old ) idea:
make utf8 default without exceptions for non English

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locale in initrd.gz

#223 Post by shinobar »

BarryK wrote:The problem may occur if you altered the initrd.gz the first time, to say de_DE-UTF-8, then that will be used at a reboot. QuickCountry/QuickSetup will offer to change the initrd.gz if you change the UTF-8 checkbox.
I suppose it is not good idea changing the initrd.gz unless remastering, because it is hard to see the changed status for usual users.
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5.2.91

#224 Post by sszindian »

Test: Racy-5.2.91

Type: Upgrade from Racy-5.2.90

Results:

(1) Everything went well and all previous installed files and .pet's were intact, and working.

(2) My original desktop configuration was completly changed back to the Racy 'default desktop.'

(3) Seamonkey browser remained at version 2.5 when it was changed back to that from 2.6 in a previous upgrade to 5-2-90??? I have no idea what the correct version should be for 5-2-91?

(4) WiFi (wireless Internet) setup easily and is working great finally.

(5) Overall, it looks like a winner without any problems from testing various areas and programs...

Will be using Racy for the next several days and will report if any problems come up.

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Re: 5.2.91

#225 Post by James C »

sszindian wrote: (3) Seamonkey browser remained at version 2.5 when it was changed back to that from 2.6 in a previous upgrade to 5-2-90??? I have no idea what the correct version should be for 5-2-91?
Installed browser in 5.2.91 is 2.6.1.

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Re: xmessage UTF8

#226 Post by npierce »

No, this is not a report of essential changes needed. In fact, no changes to Puppy are needed at all. This is just an update on my previous post.

[quote="npierce"]But I'm having problems with some fonts.

Cyrillic works:

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xmessage "
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xmessage_utf8_greek.png
Greek working in xmessage
(3.63 KiB) Downloaded 1370 times

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#227 Post by Karl Godt »

BarryK wrote:

Another bug bites the dust!

"ping -4" doesn't seem to do any harm. Hopefully no one will report that it messes things up for them.

I have put the -4 option for ping into these scripts:
Pudd, check_internet, video_upgrade_wizard.
This could possibly be managed by something like this :

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usage(){
	echo "
	$0 [-p [4|6] |-h]
	Simple xmessage based dialogs to perform the 'dd' command
	to clone disks,partitions,save-files
	to a file,partition or disk.

	Options:
	-p 4|6 ) When Using Pudd to clone from network shares pass
	-4,-6		Force IP or IPv6 name resolution
	option to 'ping' (default is 4).
	"
	exit $1
}
[ "$1" = '--help' ] && usage 0
IPV='-4' #IPversion set to default to 4
while getopts hp: opt;do
case $opt in
p) IPV=$OPTARG;
IPV='-'"$IPV";IPV=`echo "$IPV" | tr -s '-'`
[ "$IPV" != '-4' -o "$IPV" != '-6' ] && usage 1
;;
h)usage 0;;
*)usage 1;;
esac;done
while [ "$2" ];do shift;done #precaution for many scritps may use at least one '$1' somewhere further down :)
This is for Pudd i was hacking a little the last days , but all scripts lack a usage which could replace various comments in these .

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Re: Puppy-Setup: change to UTF-8 does not get permanent

#228 Post by BarryK »

L18L wrote:
BarryK wrote:
L18L wrote: Yes, there is something wrong, I have been trying to reproduce this in a similiar way.

racy 5.2.90 pfix=ram
chosen LANG: de_DE (without utf8)
saved to a new save file called racysave-de_DE.2fs

then reboot
and chosen racysave-de_DE.2fs

# cat /proc/cmdline
video=640x480 root=/dev/sda3 ro vga=normal pdev1=sda3
#
# echo $LANG
de_DE.UTF-8
#

repeated chooselocale (de_DE) several times

My observation:
change to non-UTF-8 does not get permanent

I don´t think this is specific to German.
Other languages, please test: changing to/from utf-8

Hope this will help locating the bug
I am not having any problem.

Running as a German user, I used quickcountry (symlink to quicksetup) to untick and tick the UTF-8 checkbox. There was no problem.

The problem may occur if you altered the initrd.gz the first time, to say de_DE-UTF-8, then that will be used at a reboot. QuickCountry/QuickSetup will offer to change the initrd.gz if you change the UTF-8 checkbox.
I like to confirm:
No problem if the offer to change initrd.gz is accepted !

Example: Change from de_AT to de_AT.utf8 only permanent if changed initrd.gz.

This leads to the idea:
I have decided wrong and LaRioja has decided wrong.
Why ask the user?
Always change it please without asking 8)

edit:
I have run xorgwizard without utf8, our (shinobar´s) trick OUTPUT_CHARSET=UTF-8 did not work in console :cry:

this is leading to the next ( old ) idea:
make utf8 default without exceptions for non English
I have fixed the problem:
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02776

However, yes, it would probably be better to set UTF-8 as default for non-English. I can see some issues with doing that though, so will leave it until after Wary/Racy 5.3-final. Everything is frozen for now.
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Re: xmessage UTF8

#229 Post by BarryK »

[quote="npierce"]No, this is not a report of essential changes needed. In fact, no changes to Puppy are needed at all. This is just an update on my previous post.

[quote="npierce"]But I'm having problems with some fonts.

Cyrillic works:

Code: Select all

xmessage "
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5.2.91

#230 Post by sszindian »

Ran Racy all day without a hitch using WiFi... went to shutdown this evening, and Racy 'HUNG' on the shutdown just before updating the savefile. After 10-minutes I knew a shutdown wouldn't happen so was forced to do 'push and hold power button on computer' to shutdown.

Upon trying to reboot with Racy, all that I get is:

ext2-fs (loop): error: ext2 lookup: deleted inode reference: 16451

and it goes on and on through a bunch of numbers after that so am forced to shutdow with power button again...

Hope It can be recovered?

Bummer BK! and just when I thought Racy was really doing a fantastic job.

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Re: flash 11.r202 not working

#231 Post by broomdodger »

broomdodger wrote:flash 11.r202 not working
racy5291
frugal manual
automatic flash install
flash 11.r202 not working

delete /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so

copy flash 11.r102 from racy5290
flash 11.r102 is working
I have tried several times on the IBM ThinkPad X30 and Flashplayer 11.2.202.228 does not work.
Checking the <http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/> no player detected.

Flashplayer 11.1.102.63 works works with racy5291.

--BUT--

On the Acer TravelMate 4670 Flashplayer 11.2.202.228 works with racy5291.

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#232 Post by puppyluvr »

:D Hello,
sszindian,
Reboot pfix=ram, and without mounting the drive, in a console type
e2fsck sda1
where "sda1" is the drive you have the savefile on...IE sda1, hda1, hda2 etc..

Then reboot to the savefile...
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#233 Post by aarf »

delta manual frugal upgrade from 5290 to 5.2.91
network wizard open wifi connected.
portable opera browsed.

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Re: flash 11.r202 not working

#234 Post by BarryK »

broomdodger wrote:
broomdodger wrote:flash 11.r202 not working
racy5291
frugal manual
automatic flash install
flash 11.r202 not working

delete /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so

copy flash 11.r102 from racy5290
flash 11.r102 is working
I have tried several times on the IBM ThinkPad X30 and Flashplayer 11.2.202.228 does not work.
Checking the <http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/> no player detected.

Flashplayer 11.1.102.63 works works with racy5291.

--BUT--

On the Acer TravelMate 4670 Flashplayer 11.2.202.228 works with racy5291.
What CPU does the Thinkpad X30 have?

There have been issues with the Adobe player requiring a machine-language instruction that is not in an older CPU.

This is an awkward situation. I have added a warning, after the player is downloaded, that if it doesn't work, try an older one -- a PET in the Puppy Package Manager.
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Re: flash 11.r202 not working

#235 Post by BarryK »

double post
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#236 Post by Terryphi »

I have spent the last 24 hours trying to get the latest flashplayer working on an old Acer Aspire 1350 laptop. It just doesn't work on this machine. The last version to work is 10.1.102.63.
[b]Classic Opera 12.16 browser SFS package[/b] for Precise, Slacko, Racy, Wary, Lucid, etc available[url=http://terryphillips.org.uk/operasfs.htm]here[/url] :)

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Error

#237 Post by sszindian »

'Thanks for the comeback puppyluvr'

The code e2fsck sda1 (which is the correct drive) didn't take?

So went back and did a complete pfix=purge and was able to load 5-2.91 but... ' With Errors.' After load, could never config Internet connection. It did shutdown with a savefile but... also with 'With Errors'.)

I am kind of suspecting that something went screwy with the Internet part of 5-2.91... that was the first time I used WiFi for a session, all previous sessions were with eth0.

It's not a big deal on my part as I have many puppy versions running for tests that I can recover any files with, but, this is why I like to test all the popular puppy's, make them more reliable and better for the new users so they don't encounter these types of things. Hopefully someone will find the reason for the error and if it's a bug, BK can correct it.

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Re: flash 11.r202 not working

#238 Post by broomdodger »

BarryK wrote:
broomdodger wrote:
broomdodger wrote:flash 11.r202 not working
racy5291
frugal manual
automatic flash install
flash 11.r202 not working

delete /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so

copy flash 11.r102 from racy5290
flash 11.r102 is working
I have tried several times on the IBM ThinkPad X30 and Flashplayer 11.2.202.228 does not work.
Checking the <http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/> no player detected.

Flashplayer 11.1.102.63 works works with racy5291.

--BUT--

On the Acer TravelMate 4670 Flashplayer 11.2.202.228 works with racy5291.
What CPU does the Thinkpad X30 have?

There have been issues with the Adobe player requiring a machine-language instruction that is not in an older CPU.

This is an awkward situation. I have added a warning, after the player is downloaded, that if it doesn't work, try an older one -- a PET in the Puppy Package Manager.
-Processor-
Name : Mobile Intel(R) Pentium(R) III CPU - M 1200MHz
Family, model, stepping : 6, 11, 4 (Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron)
Vendor : Intel
-Configuration-
Cache Size : 512kb
Frequency : 1198.97MHz
BogoMIPS : 2398.86
Byte Order : Little Endian
-Features-
FDIV Bug : no
HLT Bug : no
F00F Bug : no
Coma Bug : no
Has FPU : yes
-Cache-
Cache information not available
-Capabilities-
fpu : Floating Point Unit
vme : Virtual 86 Mode Extension
de : Debug Extensions - I/O breakpoints
pse : Page Size Extensions (4MB pages)
tsc : Time Stamp Counter and RDTSC instruction
msr : Model Specific Registers
pae : Physical Address Extensions
mce : Machine Check Architeture
cx8 : CMPXCHG8 instruction
sep : Fast System Call (SYSENTER/SYSEXIT)
mtrr : Memory Type Range Registers
pge : Page Global Enable
mca : Machine Check Architecture
cmov : Conditional Move instruction
pse36 : 36bit Page Size Extensions
mmx : MMX technology
fxsr : FXSAVE and FXRSTOR instructions
sse : SSE instructions
up : smp kernel running on up

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#239 Post by Sage »

The code e2fsck sda1 (which is the correct drive) didn't take?
Usually, you have to give the complete path, viz:
fsck /dev/sda1 - which is sufficient for an ext2 partition.
Then, it will come up with a warning that dire things may happen and you have to make your final decision.
The fsck command is contained in amost every distro. Sometimes I run it from a 'foreign' liveCD, using pfix=ram, of course, if it's another Puppy variant. Despite the warnings, it has always worked for me, unless there is something else wrong, like bad sectors!

aarf

#240 Post by aarf »

fsck -f /dev/sdb1 yes it always works and then one day it finds something and you cross your fingers that your latest backup is ok because what you get when something is badly wrong will take you a month or two to sort if you could be bothered. i still do it naked though because i havent got any thing much to lose and even that nothingness that is multiple backed up off line.

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