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lilhelper

Joined: 08 Mar 2012 Posts: 26
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Posted: Thu 22 Mar 2012, 13:32 Post subject:
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hI!
I am just new to puppy-usb and I thought about moving to ubuntu-usb cause of audacity and ardour.
Or are there any other distros regarding usb and multimedia-editing?
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RSH

Joined: 05 Sep 2011 Posts: 2420 Location: Germany
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Posted: Thu 22 Mar 2012, 14:04 Post subject:
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lilhelper wrote: | hI!
I am just new to puppy-usb and I thought about moving to ubuntu-usb cause of audacity and ardour.
Or are there any other distros regarding usb and multimedia-editing? |
I did try Ubuntu Studio and Kubuntu, Ubuntu with KDE4. They are too big, there is always, especially in Kubuntu, too much bling bling.
Puppy has Puppy Studio 3.3. A full featured Multimedia Suite. Unfortunately openshot does not find the libmp3lame, which is the mainly needed lib for openshot. That's why i had to leave puppy studio and did start to work on my own derivative - LazY Puppy.
LazY Puppy (now release 2) is about 200mb and has now 11 sfs files with many programs included. There is an Audio-MIDI sfs containing audacity, rosegarden a.m.o. The iso contains jack audio.
If you are installing this jack http://www.mediafire.com/?66qbhr51etstp you can also install this Ardour http://www.mediafire.com/?yehk0v6vcsb9b in LazY Puppy.
I think it will be worth to have a try on LazY Puppy. The link to LazY Puppy is in my signature.
_________________ LazY Puppy
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capicoso
Joined: 13 Jan 2012 Posts: 172 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Sat 24 Mar 2012, 01:15 Post subject:
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I run a lucid puppy 5.28 from usb with lots of audio programs just perfectly... Ardour(50+ ladspa plugins, 50+ lv2 plugins), jack, jamin(audio mastering tooll, works with jack+ardour), musescore, puredata(graphical audio programming), cinelerra(video), avidemux, pitivi, kdenlive, wiimote libs, qsynth, rosengarden, processing(multimedia programming(java)), arduino, well lots more... I use most of this programs for my university projects, so i put this puppy on differents pcs everyday and its always perfect. I wouldn't use Ubuntu for my works, even if i'm on an i7, i always need the less requirements possible(hd video editing makes any processor work hard, but with puppy it's not that hard). Just make sure you have your puppy-devx.sfs loaded and kernel source so you can compile some lv2 plugins for ardour. And add ubuntu repos.
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lilhelper

Joined: 08 Mar 2012 Posts: 26
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Posted: Mon 26 Mar 2012, 08:59 Post subject:
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I am on puppy-slacko and ardour and audacity aren't even starting.
Maybe I'll try lucid. Or puppy-studio and hope it will be actuall (3.1?).
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darkcity

Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 2545 Location: near here
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Posted: Mon 26 Mar 2012, 09:31 Post subject:
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@lilhelper
I'm going to be compiling audacity, qtractor and jack1 for Polarpup (lucid derivative) over the next couple of weeks.
@capicoso
any chance you can package some of those apps, or provide a copy of your personalized pup. there are many request for audio software by people who don't necessarily get into compiling extra. Also, which version of Jack are you using?
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lilhelper

Joined: 08 Mar 2012 Posts: 26
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Posted: Mon 26 Mar 2012, 09:37 Post subject:
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nevertheless,
i would like to have gentoo on my usb but it takes too much time to compile and to configure.
I'll try puppy-studio.
Welcome to the differences of unix.
btw.: 3.3 is realeased: http://puppystudio.tiddlyspot.com/
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darkcity

Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 2545 Location: near here
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Posted: Mon 26 Mar 2012, 10:59 Post subject:
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Pup Studio is good but no longer maintained
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/PuppyStudio
ideal there would a group maintaining audio apps on pup
lazypup is another option - it has audio sfs packages
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capicoso
Joined: 13 Jan 2012 Posts: 172 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Mon 26 Mar 2012, 12:51 Post subject:
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darkcity wrote: | @lilhelper
I'm going to be compiling audacity, qtractor and jack1 for Polarpup (lucid derivative) over the next couple of weeks.
@capicoso
any chance you can package some of those apps, or provide a copy of your personalized pup. there are many request for audio software by people who don't necessarily get into compiling extra. Also, which version of Jack are you using?
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Hi. I use jack 0.3.4, the only problem i had was that libjackserver.0.so was missing, downloaded it and everything went ok. Well i'm no expert so i would need to learn how to make .pet packages, if you tell me how to, or give me a link with a tutorial i'll be pleased to learn and make the packages. Well, the problem with my savefile is that's big, around 1gb... Tell me which programs i should package.
@lilhelper
Which version of ardour did you download? Ardour-i686_2.8.6-1, thats the one i use. Run it from terminal to see what errors its getting. Also, you need jack server running to get ardour working
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darkcity

Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 2545 Location: near here
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Posted: Mon 26 Mar 2012, 17:53 Post subject:
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Thanks for the offer of help. Maybe Ardour and Jack are a little complex to start with- how about trying MuseScore ?
here are some tutorials
Barry's guide
http://puppylinux.com/development/createpet.htm
technosaurus's guide
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=35507
general info and some tools-
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Pets
Is Jack 0.3.4 an earlier version of 0.121.3 - can't make out the numbering system
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capicoso
Joined: 13 Jan 2012 Posts: 172 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Mon 26 Mar 2012, 18:10 Post subject:
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Yeah, i've been reading tutorials today from the same links you gave me.
I'll try. If i succeed it should work on a clean puppy without the need of installing dependencies?
Jack 0.3.4 is older, 10.04. 0.121.3 is 11.10. It's the same anyways, some bugs fixed for macosx.
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darkcity

Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 2545 Location: near here
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Posted: Mon 26 Mar 2012, 18:40 Post subject:
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my understanding is that it should indeed be a one click install on a clean pup install.
libs and supporting files should be included unless already included in Puppy
static builds won't need this?
You may need separate pet for supporting libs.
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regarding Jack I think 0.34 refers to the front end qjackctl not the underlaying libraries jackd
jack 0.118 doesn't support
-JACK Session support . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .: no
-JACK Latency support . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .: no
where as jack 0.121.3 does
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capicoso
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Posted: Mon 26 Mar 2012, 19:12 Post subject:
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darkcity wrote: | my understanding is that it should indeed be a one click install on a clean pup install.
libs and supporting files should be included unless already included in Puppy
static builds won't need this?
You may need separate pet for supporting libs.
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regarding Jack I think 0.34 refers to the front end qjackctl not the underlaying libraries jackd
jack 0.118 doesn't support
-JACK Session support . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .: no
-JACK Latency support . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .: no
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I'm testing with pd-l2ork first, it needs two dependencies, tcl and tk. I have tlc and tk in .deb package, should i extract them, add them to the dir where i made new2dir, and then with all together run dir2pet? Nevertheless, i'm going to try everything.
About jack, you're right, i don't know what they mean with sessiion and latency support though, i always worked with 0.118
Well, i finished with pd-l2ork and it worked! I had to add around 5-6 dependencies(tcl, tk, libmagic, libwand, libglew) the only problem was the icon, i don't know why it didn't load it. I doesn't use the /X11 path. I made a custom path, where the original icon is /usr/local/lib/pd-l2ork/ icon:
This way [/usr/local/lib/pd-l2ork] pd-48x48.xpm (ignore the 48x48) its 16x16 but didn't want to change the name.
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capicoso
Joined: 13 Jan 2012 Posts: 172 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Mon 26 Mar 2012, 23:58 Post subject:
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ey. I fixed the pd icon problem. It works great, it loads all the external pd libs without problems. And i just finished compiling ardour2.8.6 and jack0.118+qjackqtl into 2 pets with all dependencies satisfied.
Tried them in a fresh install, and they worked... If anyone wants to test them, tell me and i upload them. I would like to test it in other puppy flavors before though.
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darkcity

Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 2545 Location: near here
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Posted: Tue 27 Mar 2012, 07:28 Post subject:
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great stuff capicoso, i would like to test them. ; -) As this thread has been moved to Misc, maybe start a new thread in
addtional software -> multimedia
asking if people want to test.
don't know why the forum doesn't leave links when thread is moved?
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lilhelper

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Posted: Tue 27 Mar 2012, 08:35 Post subject:
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Quote: | Pup Studio is good but no longer maintained |
It offers everything I want (ardour 2.8.11, audacity-1.3.11-beta, gimp, avidemux, etc.).
Last maintainance 2012-02-13:
http://puppystudio.tiddlyspot.com/
And I even got this beautifull "apple-bar" (or what is it called).
Maybe I'll try to update all this a bit and if I can learn how to raise own pets I'll let them free.
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