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playdayz


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PostPosted: Thu 22 Mar 2012, 09:30    Post subject: Announcing Lucid Plus  

Announcing Lucid Plus (formerly known as the TESTING ISO)

This is a complement to Lucid 5.2.8, not a replacement. It will exist alongside Lucid 5.2.8. It is called Lucid Plus because 1) it has 41 extra drivers (thanks to tempestuous); 2) it has extra provisions for HP printers and scanners (thanks to lluamco); 3) it has the 2 series of Pmusic plus the necessary updated multimedia components (ffmpeg). Thanks mainly to rerwin for Lucid Plus because he had the ideas for 1) and 2) and provided numerous tweaks to the infrastructure.

Should you use it? 1) If you have had any driver problems with Lucid 5.2.8.004; 2) if you have an HP printer or scanner and have had trouble configuring it; 3) if you want Lucid with the new ffmpeg and Pmusic 2.x; 4) if you want a Lucid ISO with the latest versions of the Puppy programs contributed by members of the Puppy community. Most people will tell no difference except for the additions. For some Lucid Plus will work better than Lucid 5.2.8.004, but for others Lucid Plus might not work as well. (The updated Puppy programs will be included in an upcoming Lucid 5.2.8.005.)

Patch-2 to the Testing01a ISO - rerwin
usb-modeswitch 1.2.2 - rerwin
Pmusic 2.5.1 - zigbert
ffmpeg 0.8.9 - playdayz/shinobar
ffconvert 1.2 - shinobar
sfs-load 1.3 - shinobar
PupControl 2.0 - radky
Sylpheed 3.1.3 - playdayz
mtpaint 3.44.3 - don570
PupApps 1.8 - radky
PupSnap 1.6.3 - radky
pprocess 2.2.4 - zigbert
Pburn 3.5.1 - zigbert
firewallstate 2.1 - tasmod
grub4dos 1.7.2 - shinobar
isomaster 1.3.9 - BarryK
pbackup 3.1.9 - zigbert
pfilesearch 1.28 - zigbert
pfind 4.24 - zigbert
PupClockset 1.9 - radky
PupSysinfo 2.1.4 - radky
Bacon Recorder 2.6.1 - don570
Hpliplite 3.12.2 - lluamco - New Program http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=1168241531&t=58421
PupMenu 1.0 - radky - New Program http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=592843812&t=76713

41 Extra drivers - tempestuous This is all of the extra drivers that tempestuous has prepared for Lupu since its release. He has quietly been making Lucid more useful for many people.

LupuPlus 5.2.8.001 -> http://diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/lupuplus-528.001.iso
a13b76e6ab356d905ab2cde6d33e99ac

Here are the extra drivers. All thanks to rerwin, who had the idea to include the drivers and who compiled the list. And of course to tempestuous who built them all in the first place.

acx-mac80211-20110602-k2.6.33.2.pet from http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=443985#443985
ath5k-patched-k2.6.33.2.pet from http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=444659#444659
tg3-3.110-k2.6.33.2.pet from http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=447938#447938
broadcom_sta-5.6.48.36-i486.pet from http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=421596#421596 referenced from http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=448464#448464 needs preference: "ssb:b43"
Puppy5.1-WPA-hotfix.pet from http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=448997#448997 #lost since 5.1.1
rfkill-upgrade-k2.6.33.2.pet from http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=452093#452093
xhci-k2.6.33.2.pet from http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=453853#453853 already in lupu002-patch-6
r8192se_pci-k2.6.33.2.pet and 3 others from http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=462469#462469 needs
preference: "r8192_pci:r8192se_pci"
sn9c102-k2.6.33.2.pet from http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=469698#469698 and...
libv4l-0.6.1.pet from http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=469701#469701
rt5370sta-v2.5.0.1-k2.6.33.2.pet and 2 others from http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=481085#481085
rt3090sta-v2.4.0.4-k2.6.33.2.pet and 2 others from http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=494618#494618
orinoco_usb-git20101211-k2.6.33.2.pet from http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=495672#495672
iwlagn-firmware-update-k2.6.33.2.pet from http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=497421#497421
hid-logitech-k2.6.33.2.pet and perhaps joystick-utils.pet from http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=500184#500184
w35und-k2.6.33.2.pet from http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=500722#500722
rt3070sta-v2.3.0.1-k2.6.33.2.pet from http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=513360#513360 should be made available as an alternative to the latest version, but not included in the ISO.
ar5523-svn-r29060-k2.6.33.2.pet from http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=513414#513414
snd-emu10k1-firmware.pet from http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=515568#515568
dvb-usb-rtl2832u_k2.6.33.2.pet from http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=522199#522199
hostap-upgrade-k2.6.33.2.pet and prism-NV-firmware-1.8.2.pet from http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=525677#525677
qcaux-k2.6.33.2.pet from http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=526920#526920
jmb38x_xd-k2.6.33.2.pet from http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=564015#564015
dialup_modem_drivers-agere-lucent-k2.6.33.2-20110913.pet and 2 others from http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=564112#564112
dialup_modem_drivers-intel-537-2010_07_19-k2.6.33.2.pet and 3 others from http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=564113#564113 Could be left as optional packages.
cdc-acm-update-k2.6.33.2.pet from http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=578318#578318
dvb-usb-af903x-k2.6.33.2.pet and 1 other from http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=584751#584751
meye-k2.6.33.2.pet from http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=592101#592101 This might require a "rules" file to get the driver loaded.

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PostPosted: Thu 22 Mar 2012, 14:13    Post subject:  

Quote:
Lucid Plus

Wow! Stunning! Yu' da man, PD.
...even gets the correct monitor/video card res. on default. Eudora in PPM. What more could anyone desire?
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PostPosted: Thu 22 Mar 2012, 17:58    Post subject:  

Abiword Help

I am trying to make the Help work in Abiword. This is what I am told on the abiword-users list. Maybe someone will get it before I do. (In Lucid there is a menu item for Abiword Help, but it would be much preferable if it worked from the program menu of course.) Add: Doing what they recommend with the browser does not seem to work--I am afraid it has to do with gnomevfs.

My question:
Quote:
The items in the Help Menu start "your default browser" to display the help. How is that accomplished? I ask because it does not work for me. If I start Abiword in a terminal I get the message 'Warning: Operation Not Supported' when I click the Help menu -> Help Contents. This is in Puppy Linux which is not standard in many ways--to get the Help working in one program, I needed a file named 'sensible-browser' to start the default browser. Thanks for any help.


The answer:
Quote:
In the first instance abiword checks the content of the "BROWSER" environment variable to search for prefered installed web browser. If this is not set it then itterates through a list optential browsers and looks for each on the users system. The first one it finds it uses to open the help page. The list is:

"sensible-browser", /* debian */
"epiphany", /* primary gnome */
"galeon", /* secondary gnome */
"encompass",
"firefox",
"mozilla-firebird",
"mozilla",
"netscape",
"konqueror",
"xterm -e w3m",
"xterm -e lynx",
"xterm -e links"

If it fails to find any of these give up and you get the error you see.

That is the fallback. In there there gnomevfs of gvfs (build time dependency, the later is likely present on any recent Gtk 2 build) then it will use that and likely launch the browser defined.
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cthisbear

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PostPosted: Fri 23 Mar 2012, 02:24    Post subject:  

Lucid Plus.

Working on Dell Studio XPS 1340 .

""""""""""

Screen = 1280 x 720

::::::::

Broadcom b43 ....works >>

now seen as >> Eth 1 Broadcom 802.11/a/b/g/n Wireless Lan Controller

But I have to repeat some steps >>> as follows.
Doing it once fails.

"""""""

From the connect icon

I selected >> Internet by Wireles or Wired Lan

run the Classic Network Wizard .....
>> not the >> Simple Network Wizard..

I selected >> Eth 1

and I installed the Firewall first >>> old habits.

I ran the Classic Network Wizard again >> Eth 1

I first clicked on >> Test wlan0

and Auto DHCP

click on >>> Wireless >> Scan

Select one of the available networks.....>> my hidden network

tick >>WPA2

as I run >> WPA2-PSK (Wi-Fi Protected Access 2 with Pre-Shared Key)

add my user name into >> Profile Name and >> Essid

type my password into >> Shared Key

Clicked >> Save and >> Use this Profile.

The Wizard connects >> acquiring connection

and then I repeat the steps

>> Click again >> Test wlan0 and Click on Auto DHCP

Xdialog reports >>> Network Configuration of wlan0 Successful

Do you want to save this configuration

I click >> Yes....and >> Done

>>> You have finished running Dougal's Network Wizard

Clicked >>> Yes Set as Default...>> Clicked OK

And I am connected.

::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

Reboot fresh....no save...to try Frisbee.

Install the pet from the menu >> Internet

Won't connect.....I had waited 2 minutes plus.

Fiddle in the settings...and then it decides to see the networks.
I booted twice to see what I did the first time with Frisbee.

I had clicked on some free program within it...the first time
but second time around I couldn't see it within Frisbee.
Just clicked and mucked about in it till it started again.

"""""""""""

Permasu got it working here...6th post

Dpup Exprimo 5.X.3.2.11 with 3.2.11 kernel.

Yeah! I know that it's newer.
But then I tried his on some botched laptops I have been taking data off
and it didn't like one at all for wireless..

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=76247&start=30

::::::::::

Anyway....thanks mate....Chris.
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PostPosted: Fri 23 Mar 2012, 08:31    Post subject:  

Abiword Help

radky found that technosaurus had dealt with the problem of the missing Help.
Quote:
In 2010, Technosaurus described similar problems with Abiword's inability to call Help resources through an external browser. The following links may be of some value. Smile

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=52531&sid=2881f64f9ac0880d7a9f26c73440f74a
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=52591


The Help did work in 4.3.1 Abiword 2.6.3.

Possibility: There is a configure option "--without-gnomevfs" which mght help, just a guess. I don't think gnomevfs is fully enabled in Lucid. I am trying in 4.3.1 at the moment.

Nope. Abiword 2.8.6 compiled in 4.3.1 without gnomevfs, but the Help was still broken.

The AW 2.8.2 that technosaurus made has the same broken Help when run in Lucid.

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PostPosted: Fri 23 Mar 2012, 09:08    Post subject: Abiword  

Playdayz,

May I suggest using your valuable time to find a replacement for AbiWord rather than fixing it? I have wondered for years why it is still in Puppy, I have had problems with it scrambling files, and I seem to recall Barry expressing dissatisfaction with it in his blog sometime ago.

Personally I would prefer Textmaker, but I understand it is not open-source. But there must be some small wordprocessor out there that will handle .doc and .rtf (like it or not we need to open and save Microsoft Office files).
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PostPosted: Fri 23 Mar 2012, 09:13    Post subject:  

I once spent some time looking at Ted. It struck me as being a better basic word processor than Abiword. The problem is that it only works with RTF format and not DOC.
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PostPosted: Fri 23 Mar 2012, 09:23    Post subject:  

Quote:
...a replacement for AbiWord rather than fixing it? I have wondered for years why it is still in Puppy, I have had problems with it scrambling files, Personally I would prefer Textmaker, but I understand it is not open-source. But there must be some small wordprocessor out there that will handle .doc and .rtf

Unfortunately, i don't think there is. I have been trying to save in rtf or doc in Abiword instead of the abw format, because also for me AW has saved files in abw and then refused to open them. http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=613584#613584

Quote:
I once spent some time looking at Ted. It struck me as being a better basic word processor than Abiword. The problem is that it only works with RTF format and not DOC.

Yes, unfortunately no doc.

So LibreOffice for anyone who really needs a serious word processor with functioning Help. Or for people who really need to do business, Microsoft Word with Crossover.
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PostPosted: Fri 23 Mar 2012, 11:37    Post subject:  

Here is a good comparison of word processors.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_word_processors
LYX maybe?
http://www.lyx.org/
Features
http://www.lyx.org/Features

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PostPosted: Fri 23 Mar 2012, 11:42    Post subject:  

Abiword Help

I am pretty sure the problem with AW Help is that something is missing in Lucid and probably other Woof-built puppies, because the Portable Linux App of AW 2.8.6 has the same problem, which suggest the problem is not with the way AW is compiled in Puppy. http://portablelinuxapps.org/office/abiword
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PostPosted: Fri 23 Mar 2012, 13:50    Post subject:  

Abiword Help.
Maybe a clue here:
http://www.abisource.com/wiki/FAQ/Setting_the_default_browser

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PostPosted: Fri 23 Mar 2012, 17:24    Post subject: NFS  

re: NFS

Hi everybody,

Firstly I can happily mount NFS to my Readynas box.
but I would like to know how its configured / complied in Puppy528

none of the files from NFS utilities are in the build.
but I did find NFS header files.

So are the NFS headers complied as part of the kernel compile or can you do a compile afterwards?
Are there any write ups for doing it this way? as previously I've used NFS utilities.

I would like to understand this for other puppys as its much simpler than using NFS utilities etc.

many thanks

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PostPosted: Fri 23 Mar 2012, 17:52    Post subject:  

Quote:
LYX maybe?

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=1338650423&t=61231
There is a lyx package, but it is 170MB. For the memory abiword is a decent choice. I think we should change its default save format to rtf though. And we should figure out how to make the Help work.

Add: I am thinking that maybe the default save format should be opendocument odt (the same as LibreOffice.)

The Abiword developer who does the relevant module for the Help sent this patch. The problem seems to be that gnome-vfs is either not present or not right. There are 2 slight problems left: 1) I have never gotten Abiword to compile correctly in Lucid (Lucid uses the one built for Ubuntu Lucid); 2) I am not sure how to use the patch. Details details Wink

Add: Step 1: By compiling the latest stable goffice first I have now gotten Abiword to compile correctly in Lucid.

Add2: PROGRESS! By shamelessly hacking the Abiword code I have an Abiword 2.6.8 running in Lucid *and the Help works*

Code:
abiword.help.browser.patch

Index: src/af/util/xp/ut_go_file.cpp
===================================================================
--- src/af/util/xp/ut_go_file.cpp   (revision 30719)
+++ src/af/util/xp/ut_go_file.cpp   (working copy)
@@ -1664,7 +1664,7 @@
 
 /* ------------------------------------------------------------------------- */
 
-#if !defined(TOOLKIT_GTK_ALL) && !defined(TOOLKIT_COCOA)
+#if !defined(G_OS_WIN32) && !defined(TOOLKIT_COCOA) && !defined(WITH_GNOMEVFS)
 static char *
 check_program (char const *prog)
 {
@@ -1703,12 +1703,12 @@
    return NULL;
 #else
    GError *err = NULL;
+#if defined(WITH_GNOMEVFS)
 #if GTK_CHECK_VERSION(2,14,0)
    gtk_show_uri (NULL, url, GDK_CURRENT_TIME, &err);
-   return err;
-#elif defined(WITH_GNOMEVFS)
+#else
    gnome_vfs_url_show (url);
-   return err;
+#endif
 #else
    gchar *browser = NULL;
    gchar *clean_url = NULL;
@@ -1772,9 +1772,9 @@
    }
    g_free (browser);
    g_free (clean_url);
+#endif
    return err;
 #endif
-#endif
 }
 
 /**
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PostPosted: Fri 23 Mar 2012, 23:10    Post subject:  

playdayz wrote:
I have an Abiword 2.6.8 running in Lucid *and the Help works*

Thank you playdayz. Very Happy

BTW: mtPaint image editor appears twice in the Graphic category of the Puppy menu (Lucid Plus).
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PostPosted: Sat 24 Mar 2012, 05:17    Post subject:  

playdayz
I have abiword 2.9.1 in slacko 530 and it saves in abw , doc, or html...
[help/updates/bug reporting doesn't work]

Aitch Smile
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