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kimathi

Joined: 02 Mar 2012
Posts: 25
Location: Nairobi

PostPosted: Tue 20 Mar 2012, 11:37    Post subject: UPnP,DLNA,DAAP,RSP,MPD  

Jemimah wrote:
Code:
Also I fixed avahi to run as root and added the startup scripts. I'm still not sure it is working so let me know.


Avahi now works, however one has to still adduser avahi then reboot for it to auto start. If you are yet finish up on saluki 15, i would suggest that from your curent setup you do
Code:
adduser avahi
.

four files are modified in the /etc folder these are 'group' 'gshadow' 'passwd' and 'shadow' you could place the modified files in woof so that saluki always has the user avahi. Then all it takes is for one to install avahi and the start up scripts handle the rest. Works for me i remastered saluki with those four files and all works.
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don570


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Location: Ontario

PostPosted: Tue 20 Mar 2012, 12:33    Post subject: new version of pfind  

Zigbert has a new version of pfind that cures some bugs with Saluki

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=15136&start=420

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jemimah


Joined: 26 Aug 2009
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Location: Tampa, FL

PostPosted: Tue 20 Mar 2012, 12:50    Post subject: Re: reality  

Volhout wrote:
Jemimah,

How is the new job ?


Well last week was commvault training, and it looks like I'll be interviewing for a bladelogic gig sometime this week. That's good news - it's not fun to be on the bench for this long.
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jemimah


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Location: Tampa, FL

PostPosted: Tue 20 Mar 2012, 22:04    Post subject:  

Saluki 015 has been released.

New in 015:
Updated Midori
Updated Kernel
Updated Custom Builder
Updated ntfs-3g
Various Bugfixes and enhancements

The devx is still uploading for another 10 minutes or so.
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jim3630


Joined: 13 Feb 2011
Posts: 792
Location: Northern Nevada

PostPosted: Tue 20 Mar 2012, 23:18    Post subject:  

install 15 pfix=ram frugal to ext4 hdd on dual p6100 hp laptop. wifi connection via broadcom driver auto-detected by frisbee and connection made without issue.

installed ff11 via ppm everything seems to work so far. will keep testing. thanks
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Geoffrey


Joined: 30 May 2010
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PostPosted: Tue 20 Mar 2012, 23:42    Post subject:  

Is the kernel_sources-3.2.8-ski.sfs from 0.14 still the one to use?
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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
Posts: 5971
Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Tue 20 Mar 2012, 23:44    Post subject:  

Fresh manual frugal install of Saluki 015 on my main Athlon XP Linux box. Sound and internet good on initial boot , display incorrect at 1280x1024 instead of 1440x900. At least had a desktop and the ability to use xorgwizard through firstrun.

Installed several assorted pets, no problems.

# report-video
Saluki, version 015 on Tue 20 Mar 2012

Chip description:
0.0 VGA compatible controller
nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)
oem: NVidia
product: NV18 () Board Chip Rev A2

X Server: Xorg
Driver used: nouveau

X.Org version: 1.11.0
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/root/ as report-video,
and archived with xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log as report-video-full.gz

# glxgears
530 frames in 5.0 seconds = 105.971 FPS
544 frames in 5.0 seconds = 108.604 FPS
536 frames in 5.0 seconds = 107.036 FPS
526 frames in 5.0 seconds = 105.199 FPS
519 frames in 5.0 seconds = 103.631 FPS

Summary
Computer
Processor AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory 1033MB (198MB used)
Operating System Unknown distribution
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Tue 20 Mar 2012 10:40:25 PM CDT
Display
Resolution 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Software Rasterizer
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Multimedia
Audio Adapter VIA8233 - VIA 8235
Saluki-015.png
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pemasu


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Location: Finland

PostPosted: Wed 21 Mar 2012, 02:13    Post subject:  

I believe this kernel sources is the right one:
http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/Saluki/kernel-3.2.8-preemptive-fixed-aufs/
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Sage

Joined: 04 Oct 2005
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Location: GB

PostPosted: Wed 21 Mar 2012, 03:23    Post subject:  

v.15: Well done, angel! Can now get a picture on a wide range of monitors and video cards at boot up. The best results are on 10yr old lcd monitors and bog standard 12yr old AGP cards (typically early Rage), mostly defaulting to correct 1024x768 native. However, the serious problem of overdriving the latest led monitors @1600x1200 represents a real risk to the HW, even though the CTRL-ALT-BKSPCE/xorgwizard or nox cheat code expedients are now available. Still not clear were the 'feature' originates, but the common led monitor default of 1440x900 is missing from the Quickset option list. Fortunately, that res. does still appear in your xorg Probe list, but no longer in BK's Racy & Wary lists.
Probably-hopefully one of the expert gurus like Tman/Mick/pemasu will already have an answer to this worrying aspect before somebody's shiny new monitor goes pop!
Best Wishes for the jobsearch.
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mavrothal


Joined: 24 Aug 2009
Posts: 1898

PostPosted: Wed 21 Mar 2012, 03:53    Post subject: b43, udev etc  

I fount some time to look at the b43 failure issue during the 013 to 014 upgrade 1, 2, 3, 4

The problem is
Code:
[    5.375580] b43-pci-bridge 0000:04:00.0: enabling device (0000 -> 0002)
which shows that the driver is loaded OK but this change makes ssb to fail
Code:
[    5.407846] ssb: Unsupported SPROM revision 255 detected. Will extract v1
[    5.423406] ssb: Sonics Silicon Backplane found on PCI device 0000:04:00.0

This is a recent ssb bug and there is a discussion/patch in the b43 mailing list.

I'm not sure this has anything to do with udev which loads 20 sec later
Code:
[   25.621093] udev[8902]: starting version 167

after the kernel has made the change (there is a different kernel compile between 013 and 014, right?), or the firmware per se.
Would be interesting to see a 013 to 015 update that have the same (?) udev and update (?) firmware.

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Volhout


Joined: 28 Dec 2008
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PostPosted: Wed 21 Mar 2012, 06:26    Post subject: pop ?  

Sage,

The time that monitors would get defect from wrong resolution settings is long gone..... Earlier tube monitors (CGA / Hercules) could be driven with too high frame rates, where the high voltage circuit got overheated. Since the apearance of multi sync monitors (even with the tubes) that stopped since the high voltage was generated independent from the verical sync frequency.

With the flat sceens you only get a message "choose different resolution".

No pops anymore .... the world gets less exciting ....


Sage wrote:
v.15: Well done, angel! Can now get a picture on a wide range of monitors and video cards at boot up. The best results are on 10yr old lcd monitors and bog standard 12yr old AGP cards (typically early Rage), mostly defaulting to correct 1024x768 native. However, the serious problem of overdriving the latest led monitors @1600x1200 represents a real risk to the HW, even though the CTRL-ALT-BKSPCE/xorgwizard or nox cheat code expedients are now available. Still not clear were the 'feature' originates, but the common led monitor default of 1440x900 is missing from the Quickset option list. Fortunately, that res. does still appear in your xorg Probe list, but no longer in BK's Racy & Wary lists.
Probably-hopefully one of the expert gurus like Tman/Mick/pemasu will already have an answer to this worrying aspect before somebody's shiny new monitor goes pop!
Best Wishes for the jobsearch.
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HiDeHo

Joined: 16 Mar 2011
Posts: 289

PostPosted: Wed 21 Mar 2012, 07:20    Post subject:  

ok so i downloaded and tested Saluki both 014 and 015 from a flash drive, they will not work. I can boot into the desktop ok, with the usual puppy first time boot welcome screen. that's it.I cannot use mouse, keyboard, mousepad, or do anything

I have managed to set up Saluki to run in vbox. it runs ok. i like the look and feel it has. have to run full install for best results.

hopefully you have some suggestions i can try to get it going. from usb
I figure one of the boot options for Saluki might do the trick. but running from usb does not show the puppy boot options like from cd.

I would really like to use Saluki for my build project click here but without a working usb install its no good to me.
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Sage

Joined: 04 Oct 2005
Posts: 4833
Location: GB

PostPosted: Wed 21 Mar 2012, 07:55    Post subject:  

Quote:
No pops anymore


Not too sure about that. Multi-synch means native and anything less! Solid state line o.p. stages are the most over-worked devices in the entire package. Apart from lcd tubes (and badcaps, which start that way), they account for the majority of failures I've seen. Mostly, component selection only just about meets the native resolution, like all modern electronics. In the olden days, they built in at least a 2x tolerance. Those days are long gone - it's all about cost now.
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jemimah


Joined: 26 Aug 2009
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PostPosted: Wed 21 Mar 2012, 09:15    Post subject:  

pemasu wrote:
I believe this kernel sources is the right one:
http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/Saluki/kernel-3.2.8-preemptive-fixed-aufs/


Yes, but the repo is up to date, so you should be able to download headers and the source sfs from the repo.
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jemimah


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PostPosted: Wed 21 Mar 2012, 09:18    Post subject: Re: b43, udev etc  

mavrothal wrote:
I fount some time to look at the b43 failure issue during the 013 to 014 upgrade 1, 2, 3, 4

The problem is
Code:
[    5.375580] b43-pci-bridge 0000:04:00.0: enabling device (0000 -> 0002)
which shows that the driver is loaded OK but this change makes ssb to fail
Code:
[    5.407846] ssb: Unsupported SPROM revision 255 detected. Will extract v1
[    5.423406] ssb: Sonics Silicon Backplane found on PCI device 0000:04:00.0

This is a recent ssb bug and there is a discussion/patch in the b43 mailing list.

I'm not sure this has anything to do with udev which loads 20 sec later
Code:
[   25.621093] udev[8902]: starting version 167

after the kernel has made the change (there is a different kernel compile between 013 and 014, right?), or the firmware per se.
Would be interesting to see a 013 to 015 update that have the same (?) udev and update (?) firmware.


Not sure it is udev, but that's only only thing that changed between 13 and 14 that should have affected firmware in any way. 13 and 14 had the same firmware and kernel - the only change was udev.

Let's see if the problem has improved or not.
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