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#161 Post by Lobster »

I will not be allowed to pre-order for up to 7 days?
Guys
finally managed to order an ARM
- that is some hardware promise at last :lol:

Tommorrow will get an HDMI cable,
some raspberries - my new fruit favourite
and will put Debian on an SD card (to start the bootstrap process)

Do we have a Pussy ISO or other Puppy like start point
created in a virtual ARM? :?

Otherwise I will have to create my own (not a pretty sight)
as I flap about like a fish out of water . . .

Our Puppy Hacker school is now ahead of the old grammarrains
and I have added us as a major distribution for Rpi - well we are in the future :wink:
http://elinux.org/Rpi_Education

OK it has taken me 4 days just to order
- but hopefully I will eventually have two boards - at least.

I am also wondering if a wireless keyboard and mouse is a good idea?

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#162 Post by greengeek »

darkcity wrote:the question is performance/watt

only trouble is performance is hard to measure between different architectures. one may be good at one, the other at another.
I'm guessing that the Pi will be approximately 3.1415926535 times as efficient.

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first design of a case for Raspberry P

#163 Post by don570 »

Here's the first design of a case for Raspberry Pi

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-573 ... e-at-home/

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#164 Post by Aitch »

Nice enough
...a bit of raspberry paint on the logo is all it needs :wink:

Aitch :)

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#165 Post by Lobster »

Here's the first design of a case for Raspberry Pi
Pi and Pi
as I and I, Lobster Dreadlock and the RaspaFarrians say
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People are selling old cigarette packets on ebay as biodegradable cases.
Others are making cases out of lego or fruit pastille tins.
http://www.raspberrypi.org/forum/genera ... spberry-pi

Rpi foundation will be offering a clear plastic case once in schools
and if they have any sense (and they do) will offer a range of fruity tints (OK maybe just raspberry clear to start with) . . . :)

I prefer an origami type case, which we can print on card and then lacquer
if requiring any stiffness. Now there is an enterprise for an intrepid Puppy Raspberrian . . . 8)
http://raspberrypy.tumblr.com/

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Sounds like Fedora remix might be slow on the Raspberry Pi

#166 Post by rrolsbe »

From what I have read in the online forums, it appears the Fedora remix distribution recommended for the Raspberry Pi is sluggish. Hopefully Puppy Linux will be MUCH better for this hardware platform?

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#167 Post by markyd68a »

I am very lucky, the wife got up early and ordered me a slice of Pi when it was available so should be getting one soon.

Would very much like to get involved in Puppy Pi or what ever it will be called.

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#168 Post by darkcity »

great stuff, mine will probably arrive backend of summer :twisted:

puppy is well suited to slower hardware. lots of experience of slim software in the kennels 8) How the transition to arm goes is another matter.

the plan is to trim debian, although there is an arm version of slackware - not sure if its compiled for ARMv6 architecture that RPi runs on :idea:

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#169 Post by darkcity »

http://www.armedslack.org/
Raspberry Pi

There's a lot of buzz around the Raspberry Pi at the moment, and I'm pleased to confirm two things:

Slackware ARM's packages (from 13.37 and -current) will run on the Raspberry Pi as is
Slackware ARM will provide a ready-to-run Kernel for the Raspberry Pi once a Pi is physically available to us (a couple of others in the Slackware core team are ordering one and I might get one too). Currently for those of your who have a Pi in your hands, you'll need to compile your own Kernel. I'll look into whether the Pi can be installed using the regular Slackware installer once the Kernels are prepared.

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#170 Post by markyd68a »

This will be the most "hardcore" Linux thing I have ever done, dont get me wrong been dabling for quite a while and due to dam HD failure Slacko is my day to day OS until I get home and get it sorted (Slacko, 3G MiFi and any piece of junk I can stick my USB drive into ha ha)

Now in X86 world you would boot up via CD/DVD drive using you fav iso and install to hd / usb etc but I believe in Pi land you cant do that and can only boot of the SD slot, is that correct?

If so ... how do you get to build the SD image?

Head hurts and don't even have a Pi in my hands yet!

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#171 Post by pacer106 »

this has some info for pi puppy fans :) sorry if its already posted on the forum elsewhere.

http://www.youtube.com/user/RaspberryPiTutorials

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#172 Post by markyd68a »

http://puppylinux.org/wikka/PARM

this looks like a place for PuPi fans to hang out :-)

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#173 Post by greengeek »

markyd68a wrote: this looks like a place for PuPi fans to hang out :-)
Maybe the first release of the software could be called "PuPi 3.1415926535"

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#174 Post by Lobster »

If so ... how do you get to build the SD image?
You will find info on the RaspberryPy blog (Puppy style blog) on how I did this from the Puppy command line - with three commands
http://raspberrypy.tumblr.com/

. . . and now for something not completely different . . .
Like the PuPi name - very good. 8)

The PARM project includes all migration to ARM (Puppy ARM is the full meaning). Here for example is what Barry is planning . . .
Posted on 13 Mar 2012, 16:42 by BarryK
ARM architectures
A clarification, for those not familiar with ARM architectures. The Raspberry Pi has an ARMv6 CPU (also known as ARM11, just to confuse you), whereas most ARM boards these days have at least a Cortex-A8, which is ARMv7 (+NEON).

ARMv6 and ARMv7 refer to the instruction set. From my fairly brief reading, it seems that ARMv6 has "thumb" instructions but they are not very usable, whereas ARMv7 has "thumb-2" instructions which are usable -- these can considerably reduce the size of executables. Most ARMv7 CPUs also have the NEON multimedia instruction set, which can speed up multimedia operations.

What it comes down to, is if code is compiled for those extra goodies of ARMv7, then it won't work on an ARMv6 CPU. However, code compiled for ARMv6 will work on an ARMv7 CPU.

I want those extra features of ARMv7, if I am going to be using a board with an ARMv7 CPU. So that means I am going to have to build two different puppies, one targeting the Raspberry Pi, another targeting the ARMv7-based board.

Precise Pangolin is a suitable source of binary packages for the ARMv7-based Puppy (except for the omission of NEON). For RasPi, I will have to build from another distro such as Debian, that does have ARMv6 binary packages.

I hope that clarifies things.
My gold plated HDMI cables arrived from Amazon.
I suppose that is geek bling?
Good length. Good quality. I got 4 new cables including postage for less than US $8 including tax and postage :)

Any sniff of the promised Alpha board?
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#175 Post by greengeek »

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Is the RCA video connector on the Pi board a video-in or a video-out?

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#176 Post by Lobster »

Video out no sound.
For sound you need to use audio out or HDMI (Video and sound)
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#177 Post by greengeek »

Hmmm, I could use that video out to feed my small LCD TV that has a broken tuner. I could use the Pi to watch MP4s and flv files in my car.

Might call it the Pi-CarT

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#178 Post by linuxbear »

greengeek wrote:Hmmm, I could use that video out to feed my small LCD TV that has a broken tuner. I could use the Pi to watch MP4s and flv files in my car.

Might call it the Pi-CarT

...hmmm if you're driving down a nice straight road through a desert, you could steer with your knee and use your hands to enter a text message :-)

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#179 Post by markyd68a »

Just been informed my delivery date is in may :-( long time to wait for some PuPi fun!

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#180 Post by eowens2 »

Here is an interesting review of of real-world performance of major distros on an honest-to-goodness R-Pi:

http://www.designspark.com/content/raspberry-pi-review

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