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sszindian · Joined: 24 Apr 2010 Posts: 725 Location: Pennsylvania U.S.

Further testing... this time on my old T22 IBM Notebook, 512 MB RAM.

Exprimo with the 3.2.9 kernel works flawlessly on everything I tried so far... and quiet fast I may say!!!

I guess this finally clears the old misunderstanding that older computers require older kernels! You couild not want for a 'now, nicer Notebbook' than this old T22 has ever displayed throughout its past life... amazing! Posting from the T22 here now.

Thanks pemasu for a truly unique program for old boxes.

>>>---Indian------>

sszindian · Joined: 24 Apr 2010 Posts: 725 Location: Pennsylvania U.S.

Test: Package Install - Installing a package that wasn't included in Exprimo 3.2.9

gnumeric-1.10.13-dpup.pet... from your Official Exprimo pets at Smokey01 does not seem to work? Is there a dependency package or something else needed?

Downloads and installs on systems OK putting a topic in the Business area on the menu, but won't run.

Downloaded and tried to install (from & on) two-differant computers, same problem.

>>>---Indian------>

pemasu · Joined: 08 Jul 2009 Posts: 5478 Location: Finland

You will need goffice also. If you launch gnumeric in console...you will see what is missing. I have been lazy with adding needed dependencies to the pet.specs. I will do so in the future. I have learned the lesson.

jim3630 · Joined: 13 Feb 2011 Posts: 792 Location: Northern Nevada

pemasu · Joined: 08 Jul 2009 Posts: 5478 Location: Finland

LibreOffice-3.5.0-en_US.pet has been uploaded to the exprimo repo. It has rox left and right clicks included.
I found the reason why LibreOffice pets created from get_libreoffice sfs does not update the menu. There is one broken symlink which causes it. I found the reason when I launched the pet installation from console with petget command. The error was seen that way. Removing that broken symlink and everything was ok.

shinobar · Joined: 28 May 2009 Posts: 2664 Location: Japan

Firstrun-1.9.9, test release, intended to be compatible with the recent woof.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=58312

pemasu · Joined: 08 Jul 2009 Posts: 5478 Location: Finland

Thank you. Shinobar. I will test this in next test build of exprimo. I need to recompile the kernel also. Aufs 3.2 has new fixed aufs version which should address aufs hanging problem.

recobayu · Joined: 15 Sep 2010 Posts: 267 Location: indonesia

hi pemasu, libreoffice 3.5.0 can't show full screen on writer.
but i like this interface, it's like ms office 2010 Very Happy

pemasu · Joined: 08 Jul 2009 Posts: 5478 Location: Finland

I am afraid it is jwm bug again.

sszindian · Joined: 24 Apr 2010 Posts: 725 Location: Pennsylvania U.S.

sszindian wrote:

gnumeric-1.10.13-dpup.pet... from your Official Exprimo pets at Smokey01 does not seem to work? Is there a dependency package or something else needed?
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pemasu wrote:

You will need goffice also. If you launch gnumeric in console...you will see what is missing. I have been lazy with adding needed dependencies to the pet.specs. I will do so in the future. I have learned the lesson.
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jim3630 wrote:

hi sszindian you can tell which dependencies are missing by typing gnumeric in console. good luck.

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sszindian found:

libgoffice-0.8.so.8 is the missing lib needed... however... sszindian chopped down all the trees in forest sending up smoke signals to Internet but... no smoke signals returned !!!! out of trees Crying or Very sad

Where do I download this pet Question

>>>---Indian------>

jpeps · Joined: 31 May 2008 Posts: 3217

http://packages.debian.org/sid/libgoffice-0.8-8

http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/cvs/x/goffice.html

pemasu · Joined: 08 Jul 2009 Posts: 5478 Location: Finland

I have checked and reuploaded the gnumeric-goffice-libgsf to the exprimo repo.

Now the dependency checking informs the needed dependencies and you can install them all straight when you click the examine dependencies. It also informs the need of libxml which is included but the package manager probably checks the dependencies from debian-main database file and that is the reason of that misinformation.

Anyway...gnumeric-goffice-libgsf are now repackaged in exprimo repo with dependencies added to the pet.specs.

sszindian · Joined: 24 Apr 2010 Posts: 725 Location: Pennsylvania U.S.

jpeps:
Thanks for that lead, wow there are a ton of various liboffice files available there but could not locate that specific one... tried several, was not able to get any to work.

pemasu:
I will try the new Gnumeric upload you made later today... hopefully that does the trick! Hmmm... I am going to install the latest Ambiword in Exprimo hope we don't run into the same problem?

>>>---Indian------>

pemasu · Joined: 08 Jul 2009 Posts: 5478 Location: Finland

Abiword needs stuff also, but there is now dependency checking.
I wonder why you dont use the ready made abiword-gnumeric-goffice sfs. I have even 2 different versions in repo.
Just click the Sfs Apps Loader icon and choose the version. Both should work, though I dont use them.

sszindian · Joined: 24 Apr 2010 Posts: 725 Location: Pennsylvania U.S.

Well... this was interesting.....

Did a complete update on the PPM...

Reloaded PPM went to Exprimo packages... Gnumeric was NO LONGER THERE... in any heading! and I had already deleted the previous Exprimo from my system in hopes of a fresh new one... bummer...

Checked Smokey01 pemasu's area, it was still available there but getting it there would not have allowed me to install the dependencies needed...

Back to PPM looked in a few other areas... in 'Puppy 5 PPM' there was a gnumeric_Lucid52-0 I figured what the heck, I'll try it. Downloaded the .pet, installed it and guess what... 'Gnumeric Works Without installing any dependencies in Exprimo.'

Also installed Ambiword from Smokey01 pemasu area and that worked without a problem.

I doubt newbees will go through a procedure like the Gnumeric one, they will just 'shelf the program and forget about it and go one to something that workes OOTB for them'.

I have encountered problems like (and similiar) to this with various Puppy Distro's and yes... it's a problem!

It appears to me that Puppy Is Starting To 'Run Wild' as all the new developments are taking place, and a more-structured system is a must for the future if Puppy is to servive and attract new users.

After all this testing I have come to the conclusion that possibly Puppy Distro's should be compiled with just the necessary programs to get it going and let the user install the programs from a 'WELL MANAGED - ALL PROGRAMS WORK - WITH DEPENDENCIES INCLUDED' PPM themselves!

This would make the avarage Puppy much much smaller for downloading and yet have available everything the user may want or need in the 'WELL MANAGED' PPM plus Testers would have a much easier job and probably be able to pinpoint problems a lot easier.

If any other Testers have any thoughts on this subject, pleas make them known or maybe better yet Testers should start a Forum Thread of their own on this subject where developers could better find solutions after all, the Tester is really the backbone of the success or failure of a version are they not?

>>>---Indian------>

PS: pemasu: Yes I am aware of those other sfs files however... I am Testing For You!!! so that you can have a better distro.... That's why I dig into the complex areas... As far a using a Puppy, I have my own distro for everyday use...