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How to run Puppeee in a netbook with no hard drive
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akatz712

Joined: 16 Mar 2012
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PostPosted: Fri 16 Mar 2012, 09:38    Post subject:  How to run Puppeee in a netbook with no hard drive
Subject description: From USB flash drive.		  
I am using Puppeee Linux which was based on Puppy Linux 4.4. I think. Anyway, the main file is eee-514.sfs. on an Asus EEE pc 901 9 inch netbook.

A friend of mine gave me a Dell Inspiron 910 9 inch netbook whose SSD no longer worked.

My research once again made me choose Puppy, so I can boot and run everything off of a USB flash drive. I have a 2GB one.

Anyway, the instructions said I had to burn a CD first, which I would rather not do.

So, I did the following.

1. Download an iso file of the latest Puppy. I found out that this is the Slackware version slacko-5.3-MAIN.iso
2. I used the Gparted program. MSDOS partition table, Format the USB flash drive as a ext2 filesystem.. Set the boot flag.
3. Mount the iso. I use ROX-Filer FileMnt. Find the mount point under /mnt.
4. Copy all of the files contained in the iso to the USB flash drive.
5. Run Grub4Dos. I have version 1.7. This is the key step which I did not find in the instructions.

The main point of this post is to say that I did not have much success using either 'BootFlash install Puppy to USB' or the 'Puppy universal installer'. My guess is that I somehow trashed the MBR of the USB Flash drive and Grub4Dos is one way that the MBR is redone.
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Aitch


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PostPosted: Fri 16 Mar 2012, 13:41    Post subject:  
Am I right in thinking this was a Grub4Dos success?

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akatz712

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PostPosted: Fri 16 Mar 2012, 14:03    Post subject:  
Aitch wrote:
Am I right in thinking this was a Grub4Dos success?

Aitch Smile


I tend to think so. But it was a trial and error thing. And I am thinking it only works if I have the MSDOS partition table.
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Aitch


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PostPosted: Fri 16 Mar 2012, 15:16    Post subject:  
I think people have it working with NTFS, and ext2/3 too

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=54360

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PostPosted: Fri 16 Mar 2012, 16:41    Post subject:  
Saw this post. Nice approach and layout in the Opening Thread.

Question
Would you mind posting your Grub4Dos configuration (menu.lst)?

Thanks in advance
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akatz712

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PostPosted: Fri 16 Mar 2012, 17:08    Post subject: menu.lst it creates it automatically  
gcmartin wrote:
Saw this post. Nice approach and layout in the Opening Thread.

Question
Would you mind posting your Grub4Dos configuration (menu.lst)?

Thanks in advance


Code:

# menu.lst produced by grub4dosconfig-v1.7
color blue/cyan yellow/blue white/black cyan/black
timeout 10
default 0

# Frugal installed Puppy

title Puppy slacko 5.3 (sdc1)
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /puppy_slacko_5.3.sfs
  kernel /vmlinuz    pmedia=usbflash pfix=fsck
  initrd /initrd.gz

title Puppy slacko 5.3 (sdc1) RAM mode\nBoot up Puppy without pupsave
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /puppy_slacko_5.3.sfs
  kernel /vmlinuz    pmedia=usbflash pfix=ram,fsck
  initrd /initrd.gz

# Windows
# this entry searches Windows on the HDD and boot it up
title Windows\nBoot up Windows if installed
  map (hd1) (hd0)
  map (hd0) (hd1)
  map --hook
  errorcheck off
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd  /bootmgr
  chainloader /bootmgr
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd  /ntldr
  chainloader /ntldr
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd   /io.sys
  chainloader /io.sys
  errorcheck on

# Boot from Partition Boot Sector

title Puppy slacko 5.3 (sdc1:PBS)
  uuid 847a3908-b5c0-4975-a28d-baf3ba1adafe
  chainloader +1

# additionals
title Bootup from HDD\nBootup from the master boot record of the hard disk drive
  map (hd1) (hd0)
  map (hd0) (hd1)
  map --hook
  chainloader (hd0)+1

title Find Grub menu on HDD
  map (hd1) (hd0)
  map (hd0) (hd1)
  map --hook
  errorcheck off
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /menu.lst && configfile /menu.lst
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /boot/grub/menu.lst && configfile /boot/grub/menu.lst
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /grub/menu.lst && configfile /grub/menu.lst
  errorcheck on
  commandline

title Find Grub2\nBoot up grub2 if installed
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /boot/grub/core.img
  kernel /boot/grub/core.img

title Grub4Dos commandline\n(for experts only)
  commandline

title Reboot computer
  reboot

title Halt computer
  halt
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Karl Godt


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PostPosted: Sat 17 Mar 2012, 08:40    Post subject:  
I have even managed to boot Puppy from 8GB MP3 player vfat formatted .

I used grub-0.97 first , but that did not boot ..
Also the MP3 -Player started but said "DAT SYS ERROR" and would not play anything nor navigate .

I rebooted to one of the main OS on the HD, mounted the MP3-Player, rescued the DATA by cp command to another partition , unmounted it and used gparted to format new with vfat fs .

Then installed grub4dos to the MBR of the MP3-Player .

That worked both to boot and to use the MP3-Player .

The mbr created by grub-0.97 is different than the one from grub4dos /"grub4dosconfig by shinobar" , as ` file mbr.x.x.x.backup shows .

I am not sure, but that might be related to a own compiled grub-0.97 which i was experimenting with after detecting, that debian grub-0.97 does not support ext4 fs (puppy grub-0.97 does) .

Happy with that Very Happy
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