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jim3630


Joined: 13 Feb 2011
Posts: 793
Location: Northern Nevada

PostPosted: Sat 03 Mar 2012, 00:31    Post subject:  

jemimah wrote:
jim3630 wrote:
frugal install 013 to ext4 hdd pfix=ram. on same dual p6100 hp laptop. broadcom wifi driver auto-detected via frisbee and connection made without issue.

jemimah

same problem bug as with pemasu's 5x328 logitech usb mouse not detected.

workaround just replugging it will get detected.

will keep testing next few days. thanks


Mine is really picky about what port it goes in. There's only one usb port on my machine where it works reliably.


have three here and unplugging it from any and plugging into the next it is detected.

will have to try a different one on boot.
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none of the three usb ports work on boot to detect the mouse.

oh well...it's an easy fix.
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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
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Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Sat 03 Mar 2012, 01:03    Post subject:  

Before I do my usual frugal install....... Saluki 013 live pfix=ram on a bit newer box.

Sound and internet correct and working on initial boot but booted into an incorrect 1280x1024 resolution. Xorgwizard soon achieved the correct 1440x900 desired.


# report-video
Saluki, version 013 on Fri 2 Mar 2012

Chip description:
d.0 VGA compatible controller
nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a] (rev a2)
oem: NVIDIA
product: MCP61 - mcp61-86 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg
Driver used: nouveau

X.Org version: 1.11.0
dimensions: 1366x768 pixels (361x203 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/root/ as report-video,
and archived with xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log as report-video-full.gz
#

# glxgears
1991 frames in 5.0 seconds = 398.146 FPS
2043 frames in 5.0 seconds = 408.574 FPS
2039 frames in 5.0 seconds = 407.762 FPS
2042 frames in 5.0 seconds = 408.249 FPS
2040 frames in 5.0 seconds = 407.864 FPS

Summary
Computer
Processor 4x AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 620 Processor
Memory 2853MB (183MB used)
Operating System Unknown distribution
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Fri 02 Mar 2012 11:03:57 PM CST
Display
Resolution 1366x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Software Rasterizer
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Multimedia
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia

Operating System
Version
Kernel Linux 3.2.8-ski (i686)
Compiled #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Mar 2 22:16:55 EET 2012
C Library GNU C Library version 2.10.1 (stable)
Default C Compiler Unknown
Distribution Unknown distribution
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Billtoo

Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Posts: 1494
Location: Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Sat 03 Mar 2012, 01:25    Post subject: Saluki
Subject description: 013
 

Full install of 013.
There is a problem with the CPU frequency utility with amd processors,
no options show up on the menu.It works okay for intel but not amd.
I replaced the wcpufreq file in /usr/sbin with the one from slacko and
it's working now.
OpenGL
Vendor NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer GeForce GT 430/PCIe/SSE2/3DNOW!
Version 4.2.0 NVIDIA 295.20
Direct Rendering Yes
# glxgears
63416 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12683.129 FPS
63678 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12735.544 FPS
63687 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12737.278 FPS

Processors
AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1045T Processor 800.00MHz
AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1045T Processor 800.00MHz
AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1045T Processor 800.00MHz
AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1045T Processor 800.00MHz
AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1045T Processor 2700.00MHz
AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1045T Processor 800.00MHz

Network controller Ralink corp. RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe

That's it so far, will test more.
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scsijon

Joined: 23 May 2007
Posts: 920
Location: the australian mallee

PostPosted: Sat 03 Mar 2012, 01:45    Post subject:  

1/ could you explain why you chose to build a preemptive kernel please?

2/ I'm (with 012) having problems with reinstalling grub (legacy) to mbr after 'another linux' overwrote the box with it's. It says it's done it and it's installed a blank set in the right /boot/grub, but it's not booting there, but still in the overwritten place! I'll have another go after food, if no go will go back to wary and try that out.

Will download 13 am tomorrow.

regards
scsijon

re:grub problem, could fix with wary, however your 012grub doesn't seem to be rewriting the mbr if it's already happened before, but no error messages, even when using a console???, sorry.

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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
Posts: 4737
Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Sat 03 Mar 2012, 02:00    Post subject:  

Fresh manual frugal install of 013 on my main Athlon XP box.Needed to run xorgwizard to get the correct 1440x900 resolution, but no big deal. All else looking good.

# report-video
Saluki, version 013 on Fri 2 Mar 2012

Chip description:
0.0 VGA compatible controller
nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)
oem: NVidia
product: NV18 () Board Chip Rev A2

X Server: Xorg
Driver used: nouveau

X.Org version: 1.11.0
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/root/ as report-video,
and archived with xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log as report-video-full.gz
# glxgears
519 frames in 5.0 seconds = 103.730 FPS
569 frames in 5.0 seconds = 113.692 FPS
592 frames in 5.0 seconds = 118.323 FPS
601 frames in 5.0 seconds = 120.091 FPS
560 frames in 5.0 seconds = 111.950 FPS

Summary
Computer
Processor AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory 1033MB (172MB used)
Operating System Unknown distribution
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Sat 03 Mar 2012 12:01:31 AM CST
Display
Resolution 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Software Rasterizer
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Multimedia
Audio Adapter VIA8233 - VIA 8235

Version
Kernel Linux 3.2.8-ski (i686)
Compiled #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Mar 2 22:16:55 EET 2012
C Library GNU C Library version 2.10.1 (stable)
Default C Compiler Unknown
Distribution Unknown distribution
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mavrothal


Joined: 24 Aug 2009
Posts: 1058

PostPosted: Sat 03 Mar 2012, 02:30    Post subject:  

Saluki013 looks very nice.
I would think however that makes more sense for custom_builder to be in the base instead of adrv. So starting with the minimum you build what you need.

Also looks like that X dev files are left out of the devx again. Compailing a driver I get:
Code:
configure: error: Package requirements (xorg-server, xproto xvmc fontsproto
                             ) were not met:
No package 'xorg-server' found
No package 'xproto' found
No package 'xvmc' found
No package 'fontsproto' found


Finally, looks like that jwm files in /etc/xdg/templates/ jwm-xdgmenu and .jwmrc is still there.
BTW what IceWM config files are doing in the build?

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Sage

Joined: 04 Oct 2005
Posts: 4621
Location: GB

PostPosted: Sat 03 Mar 2012, 03:07    Post subject:  

Quote:
booted into an incorrect 1280x1024 resolutio

Quote:
Needed to run xorgwizard to get the correct 1440x900 resolution


Jemimah seems to have overlooked this over recent gestations. Liable to put off incomers.

Ditto, the Big-i matter, and probably the USB k/b-mouse, issue. Many folks around here are likely to be box builders or box twiddlers and be AMD users? [Surely no-one actually ceteris paribus, chooses Intel?!]

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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
Posts: 4737
Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Sat 03 Mar 2012, 03:37    Post subject:  

Another of my AMD boxes (I only build using AMD Smile ) Saluki 013 live pfix=ram. Once again,sound and internet good on boot....incorrect 1280x1024 resolution,used Xorgwizard to get 1440x900.

Forgot to mention it earlier in my first test report but Pmount is showing two optical drives however both this box and the quad only have a single drive.


# report-video
Saluki, version 013 on Sat 3 Mar 2012

Chip description:
d.0 VGA compatible controller
nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a] (rev a2)
oem: NVIDIA
product: MCP61 - mcp61-86 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg
Driver used: nouveau

X.Org version: 1.11.0
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/root/ as report-video,
and archived with xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log as report-video-full.gz
# glxgears
1371 frames in 5.0 seconds = 274.176 FPS
1377 frames in 5.0 seconds = 275.321 FPS
1384 frames in 5.0 seconds = 276.637 FPS
1367 frames in 5.0 seconds = 273.374 FPS
1362 frames in 5.0 seconds = 272.355 FPS
1334 frames in 5.0 seconds = 266.728 FPS

Summary
Computer
Processor 2x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+
Memory 3374MB (189MB used)
Operating System Unknown distribution
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Sat 03 Mar 2012 01:37:26 AM CST
Display
Resolution 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Software Rasterizer
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Multimedia
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA NVidiaSummary
Computer
Processor 2x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+
Memory 3374MB (189MB used)
Operating System Unknown distribution
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Sat 03 Mar 2012 01:37:26 AM CST
Display
Resolution 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Software Rasterizer
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Multimedia
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia


# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 3374144 461908 2912236 0 53544
-/+ buffers: 408364 2965780
Swap: 0 0 0
#
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jim3630


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Location: Northern Nevada

PostPosted: Sat 03 Mar 2012, 03:40    Post subject:  

Quote:
Jemimah seems to have overlooked this over recent gestations.


she hangs on your every word.
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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
Posts: 4737
Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Sat 03 Mar 2012, 03:46    Post subject: Re: Saluki
Subject description: 013
 

Billtoo wrote:

There is a problem with the CPU frequency utility with amd processors,
no options show up on the menu.It works okay for intel but not amd.


Confirmed on this box.
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shevan

Joined: 01 Mar 2012
Posts: 25
Location: Moldova

PostPosted: Sat 03 Mar 2012, 03:54    Post subject: upgrade  

Hi to all

How is it right to upgrade my frugal instalation (ext3 partition)?

1. burn iso to cd/usb, then upgrade using universal installer

or

2. just extract iso contents and replace files on partition

How to deal with save file in both situations?

thanks
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pemasu


Joined: 08 Jul 2009
Posts: 5165
Location: Finland

PostPosted: Sat 03 Mar 2012, 04:03    Post subject:  

I have put to the woof the upgraded wcpu ie cpu frequency scaling pet. It works better with 3.X kernels.
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Sage

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Posts: 4621
Location: GB

PostPosted: Sat 03 Mar 2012, 04:27    Post subject:  

v.13: Problem with FlashPlayer in Midori? The default version doesn't seem to be compatible with iPlayer nor enable me to play streaming US stations like gotradio.com and wwoz.org? Not immediately apparent how to use the FlashPlayer utitlity in the Control Panel?

Later: yup, tried it on a range of kit, the Midori/FlashPlayer seem to be incompatible.
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shevan

Joined: 01 Mar 2012
Posts: 25
Location: Moldova

PostPosted: Sat 03 Mar 2012, 07:16    Post subject: Re: upgrade  

shevan wrote:
Hi to all

How is it right to upgrade my frugal instalation (ext3 partition)?
1. burn iso to cd/usb, then upgrade using universal installer
or
2. just extract iso contents and replace files on partition
How to deal with save file in both situations?
thanks

So I just extract iso and copy/replace over existing

First I try to boot with my pupsave (it give me a message to update or not)
Seems ok, but there is no network (no etch dev -> no kernel module loaded)

I try then with new pupsave- the same network problem.
I'm doing the wrong things?

I will try to boot from usb created with unetbootin.
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Ray MK


Joined: 05 Feb 2008
Posts: 668
Location: UK

PostPosted: Sat 03 Mar 2012, 07:45    Post subject:  

So far - So fantastic - boots straight to desktop, with working touchpad and everything ready to go.
Setup wifi using frisbee, activated firewall and loaded gatotray - all perfect.
Loaded Opera.sfs and all seems outstanding.
The new go-faster kernel seems very good and everything seems to be recognised.
Overall - just brilliant - insanely fast, luvly puppy.

Regarding flash and midori - does it matter? Opera, QtWeb, Firefox or similar are readily available.
and if I understand correctly, isn't Adobe dropping support for linux (if they ever did support linux)
anyway - and it appears that html5 is now the way to go.

When Jemimah has Saluki where she thinks it should be - we have another task - should she be up for it.
Touch screen support - so we can use Saluki on the new atom powered tablets, or the soon to be affordable used touch-screen laptops.

Alternatively, "Underdog" support would allow Saluki to be "TopDog" sitting on top of AN-other distro.

Anyway - for now - as is, is very good. Many thanks - Ray.

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