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[jemimah]

[jemimah]

[jemimah]

[James C]

FWIW, I'm using Terryphi's Opera 11.62 sfs which works fine.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=500488#500488

[Billtoo]

Wed 8 Feb 2012 Operating System: Saluki-010 Linux 2.6.39-ski
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 04)
oem: Intel(r)915GM/910ML/915MS Graphics Chip Accelerated VGA BIOS product: Intel(r)915GM/910ML/915MS Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0

X Server: Xorg Driver: vesa
X.Org version: 1.11.0
dimensions: 800x480 pixels (212x127 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa Project
OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 7.10.3

Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 900MHz
Core 0: Intel(R) 1: 630 MHz

...the above also recorded at '/tmp/root/report-video-glx'.

I booted from the live dvd on my eeepc 701 with "puppy pfix=nox,ram"
and at the prompt I ran xorgwizard and chose vesa.

[Sage]

headfound: the CLI command in Puppies is 'xwin' and not 'startx as per every other Linux distro!
Opera: use the Deb (Other) from the www.opera.com website. It works with every Puppy version. [Not my discovery but was told to me by another correspondent a year or two back]. Then the only problem is getting the correct Flashplayer to work. There are guys on this thread who know how to do this reliably. The ready made .pet & .sfs often have FP built in, but that doesn't allow for the upgrades of Opera or the crazy antics of Adobe.

[elroy]

Believe me, Jermimah, not trying to be a pain in the arse... this is the distros
I see with PPM, after updating (Update Repositories). I may be blind (I am advanced in age... at 46 I have 5 grandchildren).
I fail to see anything that has to do with Opera...in any of the following...

puppy4-official
puppy-common-official
puppy-luki-official
puppy-warry5-official
puppy-saluki-official

And, so, I argue this would be typical of the average nebee...

...however, clicking SFS Downloader reaveals opera-11.61-1250.i386.opt.sfs, which would'nt be obvious to a newbee
(myself). So therefore, possibly, this should be more obvious, especially considering that Saluki is placing much more
emphesis on the SFS filesystem than most Puppy distros...just a thought, not trying to offend anyone...

Like I said, my previous post was not meant to be a pain in the arse; I have no desire to recreate the wheel. But
if attracting new users, un-typical users, is the target, then it must be remembered that the obvious must be OBVIOUS.

[jemimah]

[jemimah]

[Billtoo]

[elroy]

'spose not; I'll soldier on. I trust your instincts, because you have far more experience than I in these matters;.

In my line of work (rob you blind) I've been accused of having a firm grasp of the obvious, which is a strength. Often, those not on the floor tend to loose touch after a few years with what the common person needs/desires., And let's be honest; needs change with the times. At times, this is useful, because people (developers, and we deal with those, because we do use software to evaluate style of play, etc.) have a tendency to lose their grasp on the obvious when it comes to what the common user (player) is experiencing, or desires. The 'user experience', when it comes to the regular user, certainly when that relates to a user that's accustom to a MS-Windows environment, needs to be very established when moving to a Linux environment. It needs to be as seamless as possible.

I hate Microsoft - can't say the same for Apple, because I've never really used it, but if you're going to attract Windows users, this distro is going to have to be fool proof idiot proof - and I mean that in the way that a fool will be able to proof it. In other words, a Wisconsinite will be able to understand what a Minnesotan is trying to convey...Sorry, regional US humor...

I'm not trying to push an agenda; I like your version of the vision. I'm trying to look at things from a Windows user/newbie point of view, because I can relate this this view. I have experience from this view-point.
This is where I can help you, where I can tweak you (as painful as that may be). But this may be invaluable if you're not offended by it.

[jemimah]

[Billtoo]

[jemimah]

[elroy]

Jemimah...Lazy? I should think not; you're plate is more than full, and has been since Saluki's inception. And let's be honest; probably before. I'm a big fan of the SFS concept that you're implementing. OK, let's be honest, I feel this to be potentially the smartest and most underutilized/available thing since the inception of sliced bread. I think that it is most ingeenious, possibly a game changer, ADRV.SFS, that is, irregardless of said operating system. Regardless of whether or not Saluki succeeds or fails in the long run. You've made your mark. Frisbee be damned. Any Puppy distro from here on out (Puppy wise) would be foolish not to traverse this fork. You've done a marvelous job - it's a juggling trick, isn't? I mean, seriously, I can't say that I envy you, outside of the fact of you're single-mindedness (in a good way).

On a side note, I've made a couple SFS's for Saluki - I have no place to call home - is there any place I can upload them to? I know that's possibly asking too much, and if so, understandably so, but if there is an option without having to prostitute myself to a service that subjects someone to unnecessary commercialization, that would be most desirable. If possible, please, someone, let me know. Thank you.