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Diamond - 9 May 2012
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TLM


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PostPosted: Wed 08 Feb 2012, 13:16    Post subject:  
nooby wrote:
Thanks TLM. Yes I am all for that the developer should make
the dream machine that tehy themselves love. That is supporting
the inner motivation best.

But sadly you don't have an Acer D250 then you would have known
that it fail to find a driver for the Atheros there that work.

The surprising thing is that Atheros that is in some 18 out of 20
Puppies and 18 out of 20 Ubuntu too always give me internet
using LAN but your OS and two more Puppies fail to see any LAN
card connection at all. And it does not help to load same driver
that I use on all the other puppies that works so something odd
apart from that it looked like you wanted it.


Sorry that you are experiencing connection issues. I did put a folder in there with Broadcom pets for those needing them (see under Network in the menu) however i do not have enough PCs to make sure this puplet is compatible with everything. I too use a cheap usb wifi adapter from ebay (Zydas zd1211rw chipset module) this adapter works flawlessly in every linux i have tried it on. But i do understand how pleasant it is to get your built in LAN adapters to work. If you come up with a working solution, please do post it here and i will roll it into the next release. I have decided to keep a list of all bugs and fixes and update the diamond iso every 3 months or so. That way i can also keep up with the latest firefox and flash too. Thank you for the feedback.
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TLM


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PostPosted: Wed 08 Feb 2012, 13:24    Post subject:  
nooby wrote:
Thanks TLM. Yes I am all for that the developer should make
the dream machine that tehy themselves love. That is supporting
the inner motivation best.

But sadly you don't have an Acer D250 then you would have known
that it fail to find a driver for the Atheros there that work.

The surprising thing is that Atheros that is in some 18 out of 20
Puppies and 18 out of 20 Ubuntu too always give me internet
using LAN but your OS and two more Puppies fail to see any LAN
card connection at all. And it does not help to load same driver
that I use on all the other puppies that works so something odd
apart from that it looked like you wanted it.


Is the Atheros driver that you use configured specifically for kernel 2.6.33.2?
I checked in the drivers of diamond, and there are several atheros drivers in there. Located in /lib/modules/2.6.33.2/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath

That might be a place to start looking. It contains 3 different folders of atheros drivers, but i do not know which one you need or whether they will load and function correctly. However i am still fairly new to all this, but will try to help you.
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nooby

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PostPosted: Wed 08 Feb 2012, 13:30    Post subject:  
oops we wrote at same time so I edit in your suggestion

Quote:
Is the Atheros driver that you use configured specifically for kernel 2.6.33.2?
I checked in the drivers of diamond, and there are several atheros drivers in there. Located in /lib/modules/2.6.33.2/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath

That might be a place to start looking. However i am still fairly new to all this, but will try to help you.
I guess you are right.

I am not on that level. I barely get what I would need to do to follow
your suggestion. I rather prefer that somebody else try it out and
report back to you. I just wanted to give example what did happen
if somebody as noob as what I am tried it out. No big deal.
You decided if it is of help or not. I am not enough motivated
to give it more time. Don't get me wrong. I do wish you success.

But I am into Lupu Puppy just now, I have Lupu 528 004 that is my main Puppy
and only wanted to test your Diamond to give feedback
on things that could be a trouble for those with same hardware
that I have Smile
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PostPosted: Wed 08 Feb 2012, 13:35    Post subject:  
Thanks nooby for the feedback. I too have limited time to develop and study further. I have to go to work at my day factory job now. Never enough time to spend computing Confused

But i am not rich, otherwise i would stay spend more time studying these things. I will do a little each day and do the best i can tho. Thanks and cheers to you Smile
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PostPosted: Wed 08 Feb 2012, 16:40    Post subject: diamond
Subject description: testin it		  
Hi TLM I Burned the iso to cd . I've been testing it out . it boots smoothly .

Runs nice and smooth too. I don't see its size as a handicap at all . I think it will be a great puppy ! Very Happy Can't wait to see more .

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Colonel Panic


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PostPosted: Thu 09 Feb 2012, 04:41    Post subject:  
Thanks for this one, it looks interesting. I'm downloading it now.

Cheers,

CP .
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PostPosted: Mon 13 Feb 2012, 16:59    Post subject:  
Good idea on creation. ISO size is not important to me. Functionality and interoperation on the LAN is MOST important.

Nice work for a 32bit PUP. Keep up the good work. (Assuming your next incarnation is going to be 5.28 based)
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PostPosted: Mon 13 Feb 2012, 18:49    Post subject: No Internet  
This is the first Puppy I have ever tried that doesn't let me connect. There seems to be no module to load.
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PostPosted: Tue 14 Feb 2012, 01:10    Post subject: Re: No Internet  
davec51 wrote:
This is the first Puppy I have ever tried that doesn't let me connect. There seems to be no module to load.


Hi, sorry to hear about connection issues. Is it a wired or wireless conneciton you have? What kind of network adapter do you have?
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PostPosted: Tue 14 Feb 2012, 07:19    Post subject:  
"Hi, sorry to hear about connection issues. Is it a wired or wireless conneciton you have? What kind of network adapter do you have?"

It seems to be a Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx gigabit C controller, if that's what you're asking. As I said, I must have installed a dozen Puppies of all kinds, never failed to find a connection. The computer is an older Pentium IV Dell GX520.
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PostPosted: Tue 14 Feb 2012, 07:36    Post subject:  
Suppose that I have tested some 25 different Puppies.
Could be less or much more. I did try to test each that
got published in this forum.

So out of some 25 only two or three failed to get internet.
Diamond is among these three.

TXZ is another and then the third I fail to remember which is was.

So would be cool if all of us tested TXZ again and looked for
how TXZ and Diamond are similar? Maybe same script used
or same kernel or same whatever it is?

IIRC TXZ was so nasty that it shut off the LAN so not even Win7
nor any linux could get it going. The only way to get LAN back
was to take out battery of the Netbook and take out power plug
and then let it's RAM drain to zero and then start it up again
with Lupu and then it worked for Lupu or Win again.

So something odd with the drivers there.
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PostPosted: Tue 14 Feb 2012, 08:54    Post subject: Diamond and the Internet  
Thanks, Nooby. When something goes wrong I always suspect that I'm doing something wrong. If it's a more general problem I'm off the hook.
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TLM


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PostPosted: Tue 14 Feb 2012, 11:00    Post subject:  
I must apologize it does appear that there may be some networking glitches. I just unhooked my wired connection on my desktop and plugged in a usb wireless adapter. It connected ok, the only problem is: now that i have gone back to the wired, my stay connected no longer works no matter what i do. I have to run the internet connection wizard at every boot to set it back up, this despite having clicked on the Stay Connected to Internet function. I am keeping a list of bugs, and am thinking that next release, i may just begin fresh and remaster again from scratch. Am working on a release based on Lucid 528 too. Please provide any feedback, especially if you are having networking issues.
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PostPosted: Sat 18 Feb 2012, 03:56    Post subject:  
A quick update; I've tried Diamond now, and although I'm not currently posting from it, it's one of the Puppies I'm likely to be using in the near future. I see it as a good update for the old Open Office based Pups such as Muppy. Thanks for putting it together.

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PostPosted: Sat 18 Feb 2012, 12:44    Post subject:  
Colonel Panic wrote:
A quick update; I've tried Diamond now, and although I'm not currently posting from it, it's one of the Puppies I'm likely to be using in the near future. I see it as a good update for the old Open Office based Pups such as Muppy. Thanks for putting it together.

Cheers,

CP .


Thank you for the kind words. Stand by; a new version based on 528 is just about a week away Smile It is mostly the same, except with Abiword and Gnumeric instead of full blown LibreOffice, however i will have the LibreOfice pet available as a separate download.
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