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[Billtoo]

I'm running from the live dvd with a save file (on my imac!!)

Sun 29 Jan 2012 Operating System: Slacko Puppy-5.3.2.10 Linux 3.1.10-slacko_pae
0.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon HD 2400 XT
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS product: M74 01.00

X Server: Xorg Driver: # vesa
X.Org version: 1.9.5
dimensions: 1680x1050 pixels (444x277 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R600 (RV610 94C8) 20090101 x86/MMX/SSE2 TCL
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 7.10.2

Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8135
Core 0: 800 1: 800 MHz

Processor 2x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8135 @ 2.40GHz
Memory 4082MB (144MB used)

# glxgears
IRQ's not enabled, falling back to busy waits: 2 0
7584 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1516.624 FPS
7615 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1522.951 FPS
7604 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1520.666 FPS

EDIT: I installed the proprietary driver.
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: ATI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2400 XT
OpenGL version string: 3.3.11399 Compatibility Profile Context
# glxgears
24830 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4965.818 FPS
25170 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5033.925 FPS
25273 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5054.533 FPS

I plugged in a logitech wireless keyboard and mouse, they are working
fine.
Network controller Broadcom Corporation BCM4321 802.11a/b/g/n
Ethernet controller Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8058 PCI-E Gigabit

I've never run puppy on a mac before, it's pretty amazing I think

EDIT: In my excitement and music playing on another pc I didn't notice that sound wasn't working so my imac will continue to be an imac until I find a solution, damn.

EDIT: I got sound working by adding "options snd-hda-intel model=imac24" no quotes to the end of the alsa-base.conf file which is located in /etc/modeprobe.d

[Jim1911]

Hi Mick,

Manual frugal installation of PAE version on an ext4 partition on my Dell Laptop is working great. Fast, stable, and everything just works including a wifi connection to a HP Officejet. None of the problems that appeared in last 2 apha's. Thank you for providing a PAE version.

I hope that you are still planning on using shinobar's latest stable version pupsaveconfig-2.0.1.pet which works fine.

Will checkout desktop and post results later.

Cheers,
Jim

[01micko]

Indeed shinobar's petget update solves most of the problems but it creates one. You can't install nvidia drivers, it's weird, but here's the error message:

[jim3630]

Shinobar has a new petget-20120122.pet in his repo but not announced here yet.
http://shino.pos.to/linux/puppy/

[James C]

I don't recall much mention of full installs so....... test full install of 5.3.2.1 on yet another old P3. Started with a empty Dbanned hdd.
Gparted to make Ext3 partition and swap.....no problem. Puppy installer..... no problem. Good old reliable Legacy Grub...... no problem.No editing of menu.lst necessary,booting from default.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Slacko Puppy, version 5.3.2.1

Chip description:
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82810 GMCH (Graphics Memory Controller Hub) (rev 03)
00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82810 (CGC) Chipset Graphics Controller (rev 03)

Driver used by Xorg:


Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: "" Depth: Depth 24

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video

Using the Intel driver.

-Computer-
Processor : Celeron (Coppermine)
Memory : 253MB (95MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sun 29 Jan 2012 04:07:53 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ICH - Intel 82801AA-ICH
VGA compatible controller : Intel Corporation 82810
Ethernet controller : ADMtek NC100 Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100

[pemasu]

Sorry about that link to the older version of petget. The one jim3630 posted about is the on which has those latest fixes:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=598394#598394

[Jim1911]

[James C]

Slacko 5.3.2.1 live pfix=ram on another old box. As expected,sound,internet and display all working and correct on initial boot.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Slacko Puppy, version 5.3.2.1

Chip description:
oem: NVIDIA
product: MCP61 - mcp61-86 Chip Rev

Driver used by Xorg:
nouveau

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: "1440x900" Depth: Depth 24

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video

-Computer-
Processor : 2x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+
Memory : 3374MB (158MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sun 29 Jan 2012 11:26:43 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
Audio device : nVidia Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio
Bridge : nVidia Corporation MCP61 Ethernet
VGA compatible controller : nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a]

-Version-
Kernel : Linux 3.1.10-slacko_4gx3 (i686)
Compiled : #1 SMP Sat Jan 28 08:22:17 EST 2012
C Library : GNU C Library version 2.13 (stable)
Default C Compiler : Unknown
Distribution : Unknown distribution

Seems to be working well on all my different hardware so far.

[01micko]

[drblock2]

Three cheers for micko and nouveau_unload!

Slacko 5.3.2.1 boots to a desktop without menus, but nouveau_unload gets rid of the offending driver, guides the user through the save-file setup and reboots with vesa.

You can then load the proprietary nvidia driver via slickpet | Drivers and (after running through the xorgwizard installation routine) the results are quite spectacular. With the nvidia GeForce FX5200 and the recommended 173.14.31 driver, I got ca. 3000 fps.

I couldn't measure the rate with vesa, but measurements with previous versions were around 140 fps.

Everything else worked - automatic ethernet connection, sound, cups printing easily set up. CPU usage minimal as compared to the 3.2... kernel in Alpha 5, I have been running for hours now without the slightest sign of CPU fatigue.

Nvidia (unlike certain other manufacturers I could name) provides continuing support for older products - something we should really encourage. Solving this problem (resolving this issue) is simply a question of installing a useable driver at first boot-up so we don't scare new users off the deck of our new flagship before they have had a chance to look around.

But, this is what betas are for. I suspect that this might be more complicated than it seems.

In any case, micko, good luck on your studies and on to RC1.

[Jim1911]

Hi Mick,

Hope your first day of classes went well.

Manual frugal install on an ext4 partition on my desktop with i7 processor. Runs great. Everything tried works. This is your finest distribution to date.

Re Petget and nouveau_unload, I ran two tests:

1. Nouveau_unload:
a. Installed pupdsaveconfig--2.0.1.pet and created a new 4fs save file, selected devx and kernel_sources sfs.
b. Executed

[tubeguy]

[gcmartin]

JRE is an ongoing problem in many of the Puppy distro. Sometimes, when it appears to be "licked" and straightforward, we find that we're back at the starter's post, instantly, again.

Here's the current SLACKO scenario

1. Booted ISO
   
2. Setup system localization for specific need.
   
3. rebooted
   
4. Open SlickPET
   
5. on Menu bar, click PETs>Update and waited for completion
   
6. Again on Menu bar, click PETs>PPM
   
7. In PPM typed JRE and click GO
   
8. Select the JRE offered
   
9. Allowed it to install

Upon completion I got a message indicating that JRE dependencies were NOT MET! Missing libjava, libjvm, and libmawt.

I then tried to use PPM to find the lib's....with NO luck.

Maybe this needs a prerequisite that is missing. (Usually, before package downloads, we are told of dependencies, but, in this case we were not.)

And ideas would help.

Another JRE note (this, I believe to be JRE, but unrelated to this problem)
I have already alerted the Puppy distro (@Playdayz) about JRE will NOT be available after a save-session and reboot.

Any helpful ideas and approaches should be resolved before going GA,

Hope this helps.

[gcmartin]

Slacko appears to be more evolved than the last version. One example is on my laptop where the drive (at bottom on the X desktop) is showing a device with "DVD-R" showing. This is some of the slick polishing that this version is bringing our way.

One simple problem ("simple" because I think Playdayz, TaZoC and maybe Shinobar have solved this) is the processing of the FirstRUN when the user selects a hostname for their Slacko PC. Even though some system parms are set appropriately, all are not...UNTIL...there is a logout that has occurred on the console.
The installation of SAMBA exposes this problem. As a circumvention: When I cancel the SAMBA Management Utility, Ctrl-Alt-Bkspce, logout, and xwin, this appears to handle the system needs. At this point, the SAMBA Management Utility exposes the correct hostname that was set at FirstRUN.

This may have been solved in the last version of SLACKO, but, I don't remember.

Below are the processing order of things in SLACKO which exposes the "bug". I assist as follows

1. Slacko SAMBA - Hostname and localization screen
   
2. Slacko SAMBA - Welcome screen after Localization
   
3. Slacko SAMBA - Connect from Welcome Screen shows correct hostname
   
4. Slacko SAMBA - LAN setup from Connect Screen step
   
5. Slacko SAMBA - The BUG - Shows original Hostname when NO logout has occurred for desktop user before SAMBA installation started
   
6. Slacko SAMBA - I get CORRECT Hostname when logout has occurred after FirstRUN processing has changed the hostname

See all of these screens below

Hope this is understood as presented.

[Keef]

Booted from a CD (unusual for me) on a Compaq Armada M700
P3 450 with 320mb ram.
This was achingly slow to boot, especially for an ISO of this size - and the desktop took an age to load.
The Personalize settings thingy was very slow too (it is slow on Akita as well, but runs quite well on Wary 5.2).
Once it has settled down it is not too bad, but Seamonkey took 25 seconds to load. Typically the big browsers (FF, Opera and SM) take 10 to 12 seconds on this machine. Couldn't test internet as only have a wifi stick that needs ndiswrapper, which is not present. A couple of versions ago I compiled it myself (my first and only module), but the kernel changed again the next day
Copied files over for a manual frugal install, but the desktop still loads very slowly.
No problems on the Athlon box with a GeForce FX5200 - had to change resolution, but it did so without problem.