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rarsa


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PostPosted: Fri 18 Nov 2005, 10:55    Post_subject:  

Lazy question (Yes, I know that installing it and checking would answer this):

Is the combination of oroborus + fbpanel actually smaller than JWM?

Or is the visual appeal the main difference?
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PostPosted: Fri 18 Nov 2005, 14:23    Post_subject:  

No, it is even a bit larger, because the Window-decorations use .xpm -Bitmaps.
Oroborus with the oroborus-theme will use 280 kb on your harddrive, with all themes installed 3-4 Megabyte.

The biggest advatage of oroborus is the excellent NetWM-compliance, see the new post in the fbpanel-thread concerning Window-control.

And of course that it looks nice still being relatively small.

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harii4


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PostPosted: Wed 28 Apr 2010, 19:26    Post_subject:  

I know this post is real old .
i was hoping to find the oroborus theme changer for the dpup.
an .pet ?

i hope this works for other oroborus users - updated the old dotpup.
made with petmaker.
needs puppybasic to work.
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harii4


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PostPosted: Wed 17 Nov 2010, 17:32    Post_subject:  

here is some new oroborus themes i hacked-up:
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harii4


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PostPosted: Mon 31 Oct 2011, 20:38    Post_subject:  

Is there an newer Oroborus out there?
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aragon

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PostPosted: Tue 01 Nov 2011, 01:24    Post_subject:  

Hi harii4,

I think i have a newer one, will try to look later today...

Aragon

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musher0


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PostPosted: Tue 03 Jan 2012, 23:42    Post_subject:  

Hello, harii4 and aragon.

Here is oroborus-2.20 I recompiled from a debian source, with deskmenu included.

Also included :
* my own configuration files for oroborus and deskenu, in /root. You'll want to change these configurations, of course: I've included them just to get you started.
* a cheat sheet for oroborus shortcuts, in ~/my-documents/docs/DOCS-Linux

Also remember to do a mouse click on the background after oroborus first loads, to have any pre-loaded program appear on the desktop (such as a clock, for example).

Enjoy ! And Happy New Year !
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musher0


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PostPosted: Tue 03 Jan 2012, 23:56    Post_subject:  

Hi! Me again.

Just a note to say that the included deskmenu is configured to pop-up with the Ctrl-PageUp key combination.

There's also a little entry (or hook) in my deskmenu config for a Puppy menu... which you could create with aragon's spm! Smile

Of course, you'll need a panel. I find that lxpanel reacts best with oroborus. For some reason, the raise function of fbpanel is very imprecise with oroborus.

Any questions, you know where to reach me!

TWYL.

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PostPosted: Sun 08 Jan 2012, 22:13    Post_subject:
Sub_title: SW-gtk theme modified
 

Hello, harii4 and all.

This is an edit of the SW-gtk theme that was uploaded by harri4 in a previous post.

The changes I made are, by comparison with the original :
* the top bar has been thickened so that the name of the program can be seen (I found that I got lost if I had more that one window shaded.)
* the left corners have been made symetrical (It won't look as much as a wmx window, sorry!)
* a "shade" button has been added. (Superfluous, but nice.)

Here's what it looks like (see atached image).

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Enjoy!
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PostPosted: Mon 09 Jan 2012, 20:26    Post_subject:  

Looking good musher0 Very Happy Very Happy
This weekend i'll look over the old themes and see what they look like.
Its been a long time. Very Happy

Always like how solid Oroborus handled + able to use Xfwm4 themes as well. Cool
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To use the Xfwm4/xfce themes you must take-out the theme from the "Xfwm4 folder".
Oroborus will not look inside it.

ADDED FOR NEW OROBORUS USERS========================================
don't forget to setup rox for oroborus Smile
right click then,
options>compatibility>
then unclick override window manager
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=53930

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PostPosted: Fri 13 Jan 2012, 19:23    Post_subject:  

Thanks!
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`f00


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PostPosted: Thu 19 Jan 2012, 12:29    Post_subject:
Sub_title: oroborus
 

This is a definite look/see for a light wm, kind of almost afterstepish in the scheme-color/theme-decor mix but 'way lighter in operation than a full afterstep or even the 'box wms (lol, already did some fussing about with easy transparencies in .xpm theme files - not quite ready for primetime but amusing inactive windows with no decor except a minimal border).

harii4's theme-setter dotpet as-is may have some issues (for me, it cleared all settings/binds in /root/.oroborusrc-personal after making doubled entries for scheme and theme, not quite clear what's going on there since I'm not much on coding Neutral ). Hi again, musher0 Smile, not much joy with the deskmenu stuff in your nice dotpet (but already have aemenu as a standard fallback, so..). Either/or as far as the fb/lxpanel goes, did notice that sloppy focus and autoraise can vary a bit in timing occasionally but fairly crisp if there's not too much going on.

Anyway, here's a link to a fullsize screenie @208k and an attached archive with some minor mods and a loosely commented sample of what I use for settings/binds for what it's worth.
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PostPosted: Thu 19 Jan 2012, 22:51    Post_subject:  

@`f00 - thank you
Quote:
harii4's theme-setter dotpet as-is may have some issues (for me, it cleared all settings/binds in /root/.oroborusrc-personal after making doubled entries for scheme and theme, not quite clear what's going on there since I'm not much on coding

Your right Confused
No coder but i have an fix for the scheme/theme-setter - wow it took awhile for it.

Delete the doubled entries and paste this new .oroborusrc-personal
Make your personal changes to it.
The commented out part is for Oroborus can use the themerc file in the theme.

.oroborusrc-personal
Code:
#theme=/usr/share/oroborus/themes/pillage
#scheme=/usr/share/oroborus/schemes/oroborus
#font=-*-lucida-medium-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*
#title_alignment=center
#full_width_title=true
#button_layout=CHM|
#button_spacing=1
#button_offset=0
#active_text_color=#000000
#active_border_color=#444444
#active_color_1=#a2cd5a
#active_shadow_1=#6e8b3d
#active_hilight_1=#bcee68
#active_color_2=#dddddd
#active_shadow_2=#999999
#active_hilight_2=#ffffff
#inactive_text_color=#777777
#inactive_border_color=#444444
#inactive_color_1=#999999
#inactive_shadow_1=#999999
#inactive_hilight_1=#ffffff
#inactive_color_2=#dddddd
#inactive_shadow_2=#999999
#inactive_hilight_2=#ffffff
hide_window_key=Mod1+Control+Down
close_window_key=Mod1+Control+x
toggle_fullscreen_window_key=Mod1+Control+Shift+f
maximize_window_key=Mod1+Control+y
shade_window_key=Control+Mod1+Up
cycle_windows_key=Mod1+Tab
raise_window_layer_key=Mod1+Page_Up
lower_window_layer_key=Mod1+Page_Down
move_window_up_key=Shift+Control+Mod1+Up
move_window_down_key=Shift+Control+Mod1+Down
move_window_left_key=Shift+Control+Mod1+Left
move_window_right_key=Shift+Control+Mod1+Right
next_workspace_key=Mod1+Right
prev_workspace_key=Mod1+Left
add_workspace_key=Mod1+Insert
del_workspace_key=Mod1+Delete
stick_window_key=Control+Mod1+s
workspace_1_key=Control+F1
workspace_2_key=Control+F2
workspace_3_key=Control+F3
workspace_4_key=Control+F4
workspace_5_key=Control+F5
workspace_6_key=Control+F6
workspace_7_key=Control+F7
workspace_8_key=Control+F8
workspace_9_key=Control+F9
move_window_next_workspace_key=Mod1+Control+Right
move_window_prev_workspace_key=Mod1+Control+Left
move_window_workspace_1_key=Control+Shift+F1
move_window_workspace_2_key=Control+Shift+F2
move_window_workspace_3_key=Control+Shift+F3
move_window_workspace_4_key=Control+Shift+F4
move_window_workspace_5_key=Control+Shift+F5
move_window_workspace_6_key=Control+Shift+F6
move_window_workspace_7_key=Control+Shift+F7
move_window_workspace_8_key=Control+Shift+F8
move_window_workspace_9_key=Control+Shift+F9
double_click_action=shade
box_move=false
box_resize=false
click_to_focus=true
focus_new=true
raise_on_focus=true
raise_delay=50
window_placement=center_mouse
snap_to_border=true
snap_width=10
snap_to_windows=true
workspace_count=4
wrap_workspaces=true
raise_on_click=true
maximize_vert_key=Mod1+F5
maximize_horiz_key=Mod1+F6
resize_window_up_key=Shift+Mod1+Up
resize_window_down_key=Shift+Mod1+Down
resize_window_left_key=Shift+Mod1+Left
resize_window_right_key=Shift+Mod1+Right
quit_key=Control+Mod1+q
window_ops_modifiers=none+Control+Mod1
move_top_left_key=Shift+Control+Mod1+i
move_top_right_key=Shift+Control+Mod1+o
move_bottom_left_key=Shift+Control+Mod1+k
move_bottom_right_key=Shift+Control+Mod1+l
borderless_windows=no_window_defined
cycle_workspaces=true

Try the thin-ice themes - they was made to go with the ororborus themes.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=30075&start=45
theme=SW-gtk
scheme=diehard
gtk theme=new_ice

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PostPosted: Fri 20 Jan 2012, 05:35    Post_subject:  

Hello harii and f00!

Downloaded your stuff, using it, and the result is this. Many thanks

The picture below has the orof00 theme and scheme, along with the ICE-coffee gtk theme harii provided.

I like that ICE-coffee makes the menu and the top part of the windows so tight and compact, and the orof00 theme/scheme solves my focus and "nodecor" problems: when a window is not focused, the decor is almost invisible. Somebody had to think of this! Clear, simple and efficient. Love it!

Have a great day! Smile
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PostPosted: Fri 20 Jan 2012, 23:18    Post_subject:  

Frustration, frustration, frustration. Crying or Very sad My .oroborusrc got zapped when I used Mark Ulrich's oroborus config thingy. I had to redo the config from the default... What a waste of time...

In any case, `foo, I think, you mentioned not using deskmenu -- but aemenu instead? Two questions if I may:

* what was wrong with deskmenu?
* how do you access your aemenu from oroborus?

As for me, deskmenu is not working with mouse click -- well only once, at bootup of the wm. As if there was a runonce command in this program. After that, no mouse click allowed! I have my deskmenu set up to show with the Ctrl-Inset key combination.

(Tsk-tsk, we don't want too many rodents in this neighbourhood, this programmer probably thought... After all, rodents are a nuisance, aren't they? We'll just give you a glimpse of one; hopefully, you have cat in the house, haha.) Twisted Evil

I've been trying to find info on the Web about successful usage of deskmenu, with next to no results. Is it just me, or is this deskmenu program soooo limited?

Thanks in advance for any reply.

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