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#541 Post by jim3630 »

Tman wrote:Hello everyone,

I just wanted to say that I'm not going to be nearly as active in Puppy Linux stuff as I used to. Since November 2010, I have been spending much of my free time trying to learn puppy and trying out so many different pups/puplets.
But this year, I have decided to transfer my free time to a new project in my life, that I hope will lead to a new career. Puppy Linux is still my main OS, so I will still be browsing through this forum, but not nearly as often as I used to. I leave Saluki in the very capable hands of Jemimah. She has a lot of back-up from forum members, and although my assistance may have been helpful, it is not really needed. I may drop in on this thread once in a while, but for the most part, Saluki shall go on without me.
Tman, sorry to see that and good luck with endeavors.

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#542 Post by sc0ttman »

Tman wrote:this year, I have decided to transfer my free time to a new project in my life, that I hope will lead to a new career. Puppy Linux is still my main OS, so I will still be browsing through this forum, but not nearly as often as I used to.
Good luck, thanks for all the stuff you did... I use your firefox package everyday.. Lovely stuff! Cheers..
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#543 Post by Tman »

Thanks, I will take all of the luck that I can get. :wink:

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#544 Post by smokey01 »

Tman good luck and have fun in your new direction.

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#545 Post by Lobster »

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Good luck Tman :)
. . . and to Jemimah too . . . 8)
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#546 Post by jemimah »

peebee wrote:
jemimah wrote:If you just symlink it, you get a bunch of errors on bootup as the background daemons try to add icons to the rox pinboard and such. If I get rid of that code entirely, it would prevent the real rox from working if you install it. We need a wrapper that gracefully does the right thing. Contributions welcome!
Hi jemimah

I don't see any errors on reboot with my copy of /usr/bin/Thunar renamed to /usr/bin/rox

I've looked in dmesg and in /var/log/messages - no errors I can see

Where do you expect the errors to appear?

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peebee
Ok right. If you link right to Thunar, it silently ignores errors. But it's better to link to exo-open because then you can choose a file manager in the preferences. However, exo-open complains if you call it with bogus flags so I ended up with this:

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[[ $1 =~ "-.*" ]] && exit

exo-open $@

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#547 Post by jemimah »

Download saluki-006.

http://www.smokey01.com/jemimah/saluki/isos/

New in 006:

Xfce session layer
Additional Xfce configuration tools
Bugfixes for various bugs reported in 005
Xfce terminal
Xfce screenshot grabber

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#548 Post by Billtoo »

I did an manual frugal install to an 8GB fat32 formatted flash drive
and used grub4dos.
Installed some pets and sfs files.
Installed proprietary Nvidia driver.

Mon 9 Jan 2012 Operating System: Saluki-006 Linux 2.6.39-ski
0.0 VGA compatible controller:nVidia CorporationGF108[GeForce GT 430] (rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA product: GF108 Board - 1071v0p1 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia
X.Org version: 1.11.0
dimensions: 1280x1024 pixels (382x302 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GT 430/PCI/SSE2/3DNOW!
OpenGL version string: 4.1.0 NVIDIA 275.43

AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1045T Processor
Core 0: 800 1: 800 2: 800 3: 800 4: 800 5: 800 MHz

# glxgears
61878 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12375.529 FPS
62029 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12405.681 FPS
62027 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12405.397 FPS

No problems so far.

EDIT:Pets won't install on this usb flash install once the save file is created, they half install in that the pet starts to install and the nameofpet.backup stays on the screen while the light on the flash drive just keeps flashing.I tried installing a pet and waited several minutes but the drive light just kept flashing.
EDIT:I think the problem is the flash drive itself, Lexar Echo MX
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#549 Post by James C »

Did a quick manual frugal install of 006....... other than needing to run through xorgwizard to get my 1440x900 resolution all looks good so far.

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#550 Post by Billtoo »

Running live dvd with a save file.
Installed pets and sfs files.
Installed proprietary ati driver.

Mon 9 Jan 2012 Operating System: Saluki-006 Linux 2.6.39-ski
0.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Manhattan
[Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS product: PARK 01.00

X Server: Xorg Driver: # vesa
X.Org version: 1.11.0
dimensions: 1600x900 pixels (423x238 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: ATI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series
OpenGL version string: 4.2.11318 Compatibility Profile Context

Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 430
Core 0: 1199 1: 1199 2: 1199 3: 1199 MHz

# glxgears
27782 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5556.262 FPS
27826 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5565.158 FPS
27950 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5589.995 FPS

No problems so far.

EDIT: I was able to complie VLC-1.1.13 in 006, first time for that.
I used the xfce screenshot widget to get the vlc screenshot but I resized it in mtpaint for posting on the forum.
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#551 Post by Ray MK »

Hi Jemimah

Running on my old laptop - looks and feels really nice - snappy.

Just need to work out the best way of loading sfs's on a ram challenged machine.

I know the conventional method is to make a save_file and reboot - but I usually prefer to run live,
(ie - no save_file) then load and unload sfs's on the fly, using JRB's excellent SFS_TCZ-linker.

However, in the past I found it did not play well with XFCEwm based puppies. (not sure why)
Works great with JWM and Openbox, don't recall using it with ICEwm.

Still think XFCE and Thunar is the best choice overall - so versatile and much more keyboard friendly,
especially on a small notebook when traveling without a mouse.

Fantastic stuff - especially the control panel layout - easy to understand and to find things.

Your efforts are much appreciated - many thanks and best regards - Ray
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#552 Post by Sage »

006: Bingo!
Be nice to have a default browser and the PPM entries uploaded to nluug and appropriate Flashplayer for Opera 11.6.

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#553 Post by Bert »

Luki 006 is looking good...

I also like the easy setup with the control panel.

If I compare it to Xubuntu's desktop, it still has some way to go, but that's probably not a fair comparison, Xubuntu being almost 10 times bigger.

On my atom box,
(Processor: 4x Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D525 @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 2057MB),
luki 006 uses 125MB of ram, with only system-info running. That's a bit high for a basically still empty system, compared to other Puppy's. (It's twice Slacko's iddling ram usage on the same box)
But maybe 125MB is incredibly low for a xfce system. IIRC, xfce is normally thought of to need 256mb all for itself.

It was interesting to see the menu and parts of the xfce interface being localized (dutch). I estimate about 30%..

Where I think there's room for improvement:

* Better fonts are needed for my demanding (read: aging :wink: ) eyes.

* 006 is certainly not slow, but not as snappy as slacko, imho..

Thanks Jemimah!
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#554 Post by Ray MK »

I found the built-in sfs-loader - and added gatotray-2.0.pet - nice.

Now - some sfs testing - nothing too heavy - report later.

Regards - Ray

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#555 Post by jemimah »

Ray MK wrote:Hi Jemimah

Running on my old laptop - looks and feels really nice - snappy.

Just need to work out the best way of loading sfs's on a ram challenged machine.

I know the conventional method is to make a save_file and reboot - but I usually prefer to run live,
(ie - no save_file) then load and unload sfs's on the fly, using JRB's excellent SFS_TCZ-linker.
Sfs-on-the-fly should be the default if you click on an sfs. This does load an sfs immediately and doesn't copy it to RAM. Please test it and let me know if it is working ok.

Edit: ah I see you found it. :lol:

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#556 Post by jemimah »

Bert wrote:Luki 006 is looking good...

I also like the easy setup with the control panel.

If I compare it to Xubuntu's desktop, it still has some way to go, but that's probably not a fair comparison, Xubuntu being almost 10 times bigger.

On my atom box,
(Processor: 4x Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D525 @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 2057MB),
luki 006 uses 125MB of ram, with only system-info running. That's a bit high for a basically still empty system, compared to other Puppy's. (It's twice Slacko's iddling ram usage on the same box)
But maybe 125MB is incredibly low for a xfce system. IIRC, xfce is normally thought of to need 256mb all for itself.

It was interesting to see the menu and parts of the xfce interface being localized (dutch). I estimate about 30%..

Where I think there's room for improvement:

* Better fonts are needed for my demanding (read: aging :wink: ) eyes.

* 006 is certainly not slow, but not as snappy as slacko, imho..

Thanks Jemimah!

-
Did you have a specific font in mind? Have you seen the font hinting settings in the Appearance setup?

There's probably a lot more localization available - I haven't included the NLS pets. I'm still working for a keymap switcher that works - the xfce panel applet does not and fbxkb did not work either.

Are there things from Xubuntu that we can/should copy?

--

Xfce is definitely not going to be the fastest booting option. It has a large number of background processes that it needs to start. :( However, it certainly seems light enough for netbooks and the "old" computers are getting trashed nowadays (at least in the US).

It is a little lighter without xfce4-session, but then the keyboard and mouse configuration utilities don't work and I think they are nicer than the usual puppy options.

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font size in high dpi screen

#557 Post by mavrothal »

Tried luki-006 for the XOs and looks good (also the chrome driver compiles fine).
However, I have a problem with font size not present in v005. They are huge and do not observe Xft.dpi settings (see sreenshot This is at 1200x900/200dpi screen resolution).
Assuming is not a bug I would appreciate if you could point out the relevant XFCE setting so save me some searching.
Thx

PS: should point out that aufs-util-3.1.pet, GConf-3.2.3-i486.pet, synaptics_luki.pet, evince-2.32.0-i486.pet, gnutls-2.8.5-i486.pet, ucview-0.33-i486.pet, fbreader-0.12.10-i486.pet, midori-0.4.3-i486.pet, galculator-1.3.4-i486.pet and nano-2.2.6-i486.pet has been added in the main sfs and the following buildin packages have been removed from the build: grub, grub4dos, 915resolution, makebootfat, acpid, acpitool, vattery (as with my other builds)
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#558 Post by jemimah »

Go to the Appearance settings - on the Fonts tab you can set the dpi.

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#559 Post by 01micko »

Hi jemimah,

Working well on my r51 thinkpad with limited testing.

I just wonder if it's worth having all the standard puppy icons on the desktop since most of them don't work. I'm supposing you have some idea of what you are going to do and maybe you've mentioned in this thread somewhere (please excuse my laziness for not reading right through).

Well I guess for the 'browse' icon you could go the lupu way and offer to install a browser. I started developing an app here to address getting the latest mozilla browsers in your default language using curl, works fine in saluki. It could easily be adapted to get chrome, midori, opera direct from a repo, it wont work the same as the mozilla code.

By the way, the code in the app will easily grab Thunderbird too, it was on the todo list to add support for that.

Let me know what you think and I will continue development.
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#560 Post by peebee »

Hi jemimah

Pristine frugal install of luki006 on my HP550 laptop.

Loaded the pnethood pets and setup my wifi connection with Frisbee

Here's what I got after successfully connecting to my samba share when I clicked the "Show" button in pnethood....

Looks like something doesn't like directory names with spaces in - directory is called "My Documents" on my xp desktop

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