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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Sat 17 Dec 2011, 09:05    Post_subject: Lucid Puppy 5.2.8 - Updated ISO Version 003 - NOV 29, 2011
Sub_title: 528-004
 

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PostPosted: Sat 17 Dec 2011, 11:30    Post_subject: Lucid 5.28-004 RC  

D/L iso, booted live cd to desktop - No internet connection
I had to set up manually

I have not had any sound problems as do full installs on 7 different puppies.

Full install of this version works with no problems

My congratulations and thanks to all worked so hard to make this version great.

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PostPosted: Sat 17 Dec 2011, 12:42    Post_subject: Re: Smiling  

[quote="sheldonisaac

I'm on 214X-TOP9 on this computer, because it runs without problems,

I too thank playdayz and the others for 5.2.8, which runs fine on my less-old computers.[/quote]
That's excellent ti know Smile thanks Smile
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Dec 2011, 13:36    Post_subject: Testing 003 & 004  

playdayz
In a previous post in this thread (page 50) I commented that whilst I have never lost sound on a USB stick, I had when copying a pup over to USBHD with the exception of Racy-5.2.2 k3.0.7.

Having said that I only possess one pc and my sticks and therefore Alsa are not being presented with different combinations of sound chips and devices. It seems that Alsa works best with a clean start so that it can create its inodes – which makes sense when moving a USB device between PCs.

These comments apply to a manual frugal install to a fat 32 USB 2 stick with syslinux 4.04 boot and ext2 save file. The screenshots are of 003.
I started by using another pup to mount lupu_528.sfs before launching for the first time.

Noteworthy in the first shot are:
119 items in /dev/sound – the bulk of which are from 2005 (harmless orphaned inodes?)
The 3 pci items dated 25 Nov 2011 in /dev/snd/by-path
The 3 mixers in /dev
It seems that all of this stuff comes from the pc that authored the ISO.

The second screenshot show the situation after the first re-boot and creation of a savefile.

Here alsa has done its thing and created the necessary for 2 devices.

Taking my cue from BK’s approach in racy where, with an earlier version of alsa, he purges everything in rc.sysinit I wrote a standalone script to do the same. (slightly modified for the later version in 528 and catching a bit more)

Code:
#!/bin/bash
rm -f /dev/*mixer* 2>/dev/null #changed to zap mixer, mixer 01, mixer02 etc
rm -f /dev/snd/*
rm -f /dev/snd/by-path/* #added for alsa v1.0.24
yaf-splash -close never -fontsize large -bg blue -fg white -timeout 5 -text "Now reboot!" &


The third shot shows having run the above and rebooted.
This last shot looks a lot better and is inline with what I see in Racy but with the extra directory /dev/snd/by-path. I like Barry’s approach and was contemplating suggesting that it be included in rc.sysinit . In particular it gets rid of any detritus already in the ISO as the clean state is saved.

At this point ISO 004 was posted !
With 004 the detritus comes back from the SFS due to the changes made and the clean state is not being saved. Running the script is negated upon reboot.
This post is therefore now food for thought as to which approach has the most merit and least risk. It may also be possible to just author a clean ISO (from the alsa point of view) in the first place.
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Dec 2011, 15:29    Post_subject:  

Quote:
Taking my cue from BK’s approach in racy where, with an earlier version of alsa, he purges everything in rc.sysinit I wrote a standalone script to do the same. (slightly modified for the later version in 528 and catching a bit more)

Code:
#!/bin/bash
rm -f /dev/*mixer* 2>/dev/null #changed to zap mixer, mixer 01, mixer02 etc
rm -f /dev/snd/*
rm -f /dev/snd/by-path/* #added for alsa v1.0.24
yaf-splash -close never -fontsize large -bg blue -fg white -timeout 5 -text "Now reboot!" &

ETP, This was the next step, but the previous step (the 004 iso) seems to have "solved the problem," hopefully, but my fingers are still crossed. rerwin is working along similar lines for a more comprehensive revision--you might want to pm him and collaborate. We might go to something like a stable iso and a testing iso.

The 119 items in /dev/snd seem to be a product of Woof at the time, since they are present in the original Woof build. A related question is what remastering does to /dev/snd, as the 004 iso is remastered rather than built in Woof. rerwin would know about that too since he has enhanced the remaster script.

Ultimately BarryK is the one to hear the results of these investigations.

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PostPosted: Sat 17 Dec 2011, 16:19    Post_subject:  

ETP, playdayz,
My next patch (6) will have the /dev/snd files removed at initialization, as in wary/woof. But the remaster issue is a good one to bring up, as it may copy all of the /dev files. I will check into that before releasing the patch.

Note that the patch will skip only the /dev/snd files, not the entire /dev directory. This is to eliminate all other known hazards to the sound issue before diverging from Barry's design.

The major change in the patch is to ensure that package installations and uninstallations do not occur at the wrong time relative to saves to flash drive. This is significant only when a package contains an updated version of a file already in the iso file. Packages with only new files do not need that protection. I am still working out some maddening details.
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Dec 2011, 20:43    Post_subject: grub4dos on 528-004  

Billtoo wrote:
I did a full install of lupu-528.004.iso to an Acer desktop pc.
Everything went well except grub4dos didn't search the partitions when
I ran it.
The drive has 4 ext4 partitions on it and I installed lupu to the 3rd
partition.When I ran grub4dos I clicked on the option to search only
the hard drive and it didn't work, I installed
grub4dos-0.4.4.v1.7.1.pet and it worked properly.

grub4dos-0.4.4.v1.7.1 is better, yes.
But i wonder why the grub4dos v1.7 in lupu-528.004.iso didn't work.
The grub4dos v1.7 and ext4 issue depends on the fdisk version.
And the lupu-528.004.iso should be OK.
# fdisk -v
fdisk (util-linux 2.13-pre7)

But can be another bug...
Anyway, updating the grub4dos to v1.7.1 is nice.

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PostPosted: Sun 18 Dec 2011, 03:59    Post_subject:  

Quote:
I only possess one pc

How many would you need? Send me a PM. Presume you'd be happy running board on a strip of old kitchen cabinet? Do you have a KVM and/or an hiD15 switchbox? Got a few old Intel 1G boards which are perfect for Puppy, esp. as you can use up some of your old SDRAM. What other HW do you need?
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PostPosted: Sun 18 Dec 2011, 04:35    Post_subject: Avidemux video editor for Lucid  

Compiled on Lucid-528.004.
avidemux-2.5.5-lucid.pet
http://shino.pos.to/party/bridge.cgi?puppy/opt/pup5/

Topic: Additional Software (PETs, n' stuff) » Multimedia
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=74380

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PostPosted: Sun 18 Dec 2011, 13:49    Post_subject: official 5.2.8  

Playdayz,

Just wondering - on the first page of this thread, Lucid 5.2.8 offered for download is the .003 version. However, this doesn't really jive with where one is lead from puppylinux.com (maintained by BK), which is to the original 5.2.8 iso. Is that correct? Which version should be presented to first time downloaders?

Keep up the great work.

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fuzzy

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PostPosted: Sun 18 Dec 2011, 17:25    Post_subject: PUPPY 528.004
Sub_title: Works great
 

Installed 528.004 on a USB Flash Drive stick and
It's working great Sound is OK.

There's one little thing:
When I upgraded to Firefox 8.0.1 and installed
adobe flash 11, then the browser hangs on connecting
to web pages.
I used the fix that requires moving the file 'libnss3.so' from the Firefox folder, to the
/usr/lib folder. It works for me, but a new user
wouldn't know that.
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PostPosted: Sun 18 Dec 2011, 17:29    Post_subject:  

Quote:
Just wondering - on the first page of this thread, Lucid 5.2.8 offered for download is the .003 version. However, this doesn't really jive with where one is lead from puppylinux.com (maintained by BK), which is to the original 5.2.8 iso. Is that correct? Which version should be presented to first time downloaders?

Hey cowboy, There is a release candidate of Lucid 5.2.8.004 on the previous page. If no problems surface in the next few days then it will become the official release in the first message of this thread. I see what you mean by Barry's blog Announcement. I might ask Barry to change the link to direct people to the first message of this thread. That would be the simplest thing for him and everyone would come to the same place. I will do that when and if 004 gets promoted. The 004 version will be the one for newbies. Thanks.
Lucid 5.2.8.004 RC -> http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=589510#589510
Quote:
There's one little thing: When I upgraded to Firefox 8.0.1 and installed adobe flash 11, then the browser hangs on connecting to web pages. I used the fix that requires moving the file 'libnss3.so' from the Firefox folder, to the /usr/lib folder. It works for me, but a new user wouldn't know that.


The Firefox 8 pet now fixes that fuzzy. The timing is awkward because Lucid has a release candidate on the table which I do not want to modify since it has been tested. I should post the fix on LupuNews and in the first message of this thread. I will do so when 004 goes official. Also, the FF 8 that newbies would get from the Browser Installer is fixed. Thanks.
Firefox 8 and other current browsers -> http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=584868#584868
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PostPosted: Mon 19 Dec 2011, 09:36    Post_subject:  

I just want to add my congrats for the work on 5.2.8-004.

Despite your encouragement for us to move to Slacko, Playdayz, I appreciate your extended work on 5.2.8. It is a very professional approach to make this the best supported mainstream puppy there has ever been.

Talking of professional - your idea of stable and testing versions - which mimicks Debian - is yet another example of the greater profesionalism being applied to Lupu.

I know it goes against the grain of standard Puppy development chaos but some of us appreciate it!
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PostPosted: Mon 19 Dec 2011, 10:16    Post_subject:  

Lupu is my number-1 Puppy. Very Happy

Lupu-528.004 is working well. Cool
My lupusave updated perfectly so far as I can tell. Cool

I'm typing this from Slacko-5.3.1-SCSI-MAIN.
OK, its nice and colorful...
Looks good...
Includes snap2 I see [did I install that?]...
The included Psip32 Puppy Phone probably won't work with my hardware...
The 0.26 version installed in Lupu-528.004 works just fine.
Managed to get this Slacko to work with pmedia=ataflash included in the ISO file's isolinux.cfg file, so that makes it a winner in my opinion.
Who knows, might I be tempted to switch?
Time will tell.

I'm spoiled for choice.
Isn't Puppy WONDERFUL! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon 19 Dec 2011, 13:34    Post_subject:  

Quote:
Compiled on Lucid-528.004.
avidemux-2.5.5-lucid.pet

Thanks shinobar.

Now in Puppy Package Manage in Lucid.

Open Quickpet -> More Pets -> Update Lupu PPM to update the index for Puppy Package Manager.
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