Puppy turns dark when booting

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Puppy turns dark when booting

#1 Post by ove »

I have downloaded Puppy 5.2.5 and burned it to a DVD-R.
It boots from the DVD-R without problem, except this:

- when "loading kernel modules" the screen suddenly turns dark / dim, as if as least 50% of the light is turned off.

When boot is finished the screen remains dark / dim, making it difficult to see and really impossible to use.

Anyone experienced something like this?
This occurs only with Puppy 5.2.5.
Not tried any earlier Puppy.

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#2 Post by 8-bit »

Puppy of that series seemed to have problems with some video cards.
You could try passing a kernel parameter of "pfix=nox" when you boot and then at the prompt type "xorgwizard" and follow the steps to see if that will help.
Also, if you tell us more about your PC, model, ram, video card model if known, it will give us more information to help you.
In the mean time, you might want to try a version that was not based on Ubuntu Lucid.

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#3 Post by `f00 »

Normally the pre-X should not dim like that (Xorg can play some mean tricks like dark gray on black or blue on black and that is kind of hard to deal with if it happens). If your desktop is unuseably dim once you get to it, it's possible to use setup..xvidtune if all else fails (but the warnings are there for a reason).

Rewritable media (*-rw discs) are actually a good choice for liveCD boot, you can always blank and reburn another pup if the one you got is not working for you. Recent wary 512 has an Xvesa option so you can bypass Xorg altogether if your system isn't happy with it.

Like 8-bit says, more info helps us help you.

Welcome to the plmf )

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#4 Post by ove »

Nothing has helped.
Created a startup-disc for Wary 5.1.2.
Exactly the same dimming when "loading kernel modules" during the boot.


This is my PC, witg 2gb ram (can say no more).
http://support.acer.com/acerpanam/noteb ... Gsp2.shtml

The current OS is Linux Mint, no dual boot with Windows, only Linux Mint 9 Isadora.

Adding some more info about USBs with Linux OS-systems:
Peppermint 2 - normal
Mint 11 Katya - normal
Kubuntu 10.04 - normal
Kubuntu 11 - dimming
Puppy 4.2 - normal (but cannot set up to the wireless)
Puppy 5.2.5 - dimming
Puppy Wary 5.1.2 - dimming
Xubuntu - always been dimming, no matter which one
Fedora 12_love - normal
OpenSuse 11.1 - normal
Linux Mint 9 (the current OS) - normal

Windows XP Pro (the one that came with it) - normal

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#5 Post by Karl Godt »

Apparently /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit starting udevd triggering /sbin/pup_event_backend_modprobe or /sbin/pup_event_backend_modprobe_protect

loaded a driver that produces this behavior .

The log files are located in the /tmp directory and in frugal installations additionally in the /initrd/tmp folder .

/tmp/bootsysinit.log

/tmp/bootkernel.log
Linux agpgart interface v0.103
agpgart-intel 0000:00:00.0: Intel 845G Chipset
agpgart-intel 0000:00:00.0: enabling device (0000 -> 0002)
agpgart-intel 0000:00:00.0: AGP aperture is 256M @ 0xe0000000

/tmp/pup_event_module_devpath_log
MODULE=intel_agp DEVPATH=/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:00.0

/tmp/udevtrace.log
add_agpgart_module___
add_0000:00:1e.0_pci_0x8086_0x244e_pci:v00008086d0000244Esv00000000sd00000000bc06sc04i00
add_0000:00:01.0_pci_0x8086_0x1a31_pci:v00008086d00001A31sv00000000sd00000000bc06sc04i00
add_0000:00:00.0_pci_0x8086_0x1a30_pci:v00008086d00001A30sv00008086sd00001A30bc06sc00i00
add_agpgart-intel_drivers___
add_agpgart_misc___
add_intel_agp_module___
add_0000:01:00.0_pci_0x10de_0x0182_pci:v000010DEd00000182sv0000107Dsd00002922bc03sc00i00
add_vesafb.0_platform___platform:vesafb

*****
and the command

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elspci -l
shows
00:00.0 060000 8086:1A30 <agpgart-intel>

... the graphic relevant driver for me .

Some ACPI , extra-laptop , LED or other kernel drivers may have an energy saving default backlight value , which can range from 0-8 or 0-15 depending on the driver .

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find /sys -type f -name "backlight*" -exec cat '{}'\;
may show something .

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#6 Post by ove »

The Slacko 5.3 works very well.

It was easy to install, easy to make a bootable USB, easy to get onto Internet, easy to setup mail.

But, not at all acceptable as for setting up a printer.
It's almost as reading the Bible in ancient greek...with no space between the words...

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#7 Post by rcrsn51 »

ove wrote:But, not at all acceptable as for setting up a printer. It's almost as reading the Bible in ancient greek...with no space between the words...
Do you want help with this? You need to provide some details. Like what model printer you have and what driver package (if any) you have installed.

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#8 Post by Béèm »

ove, for your display issue in 525:
When running xorgwizard, don't XXxYYx24 resolution, but XXxYYx16
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#9 Post by ove »

Béèm wrote:ove, for your display issue in 525:
When running xorgwizard, don't XXxYYx24 resolution, but XXxYYx16
I'11 give it a try.
Thanks

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#10 Post by ove »

rcrsn51 wrote: Do you want help with this? You need to provide some details. Like what model printer you have and what driver package (if any) you have installed.
No driver package has been installed.
Done absolutely nothing.

Priner:
HP Photosmart 2575 All-in-one

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#11 Post by rcrsn51 »

ove wrote:No driver package has been installed. Done absolutely nothing. Priner: HP Photosmart 2575 All-in-one
When you installed the printer, you must have picked some model from the list. What did you choose?

What you really need is the hplip_print-3.11.10.pet driver package from here. It lists the Photosmart 2570 Series.

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#12 Post by ove »

Normally I use Linux Mint 9.
Very ease to install the printer in that one.

So, I've not done anything yet, apart from downloading and installing the driver package you linked to.

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#13 Post by rcrsn51 »

@ove: Are you still looking for help with your printer?

1. On your Slacko desktop, click the Setup icon.

2. From the list, select Setup CUPS Printing.

3. When the CUPS wizard starts, click the Administration tab.

4. Select Add Printer.

5. Follow the steps.

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#14 Post by ove »

Add printer...yes... so what - start guessing?

Why are all guides for people already knowing what to do?
And if so - why then are these guides existing?

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#15 Post by rcrsn51 »

ove wrote:Add printer...yes... so what - start guessing?
After you select the Administration tab and click the Add Printer button, you will see a list of printing devices. Is your Photosmart not on the list?

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#16 Post by ove »

rcrsn51 wrote:
ove wrote:Add printer...yes... so what - start guessing?
After you select the Administration tab and click the Add Printer button, you will see a list of printing devices. Is your Photosmart not on the list?
This is all I get.
Clicking on any of the buttons does not get me any further.
There is nothing behind any of them to help me further on, sorry to say.

Add Printer
Local Printers: SCSI Printer
pdf writer (PDF)
Discovered Network Printers:
Other Network Printers: LPD/LPR Host or Printer
Internet Printing Protocol (http)
AppSocket/HP JetDirect
Internet Printing Protocol (ipp)
Windows Printer using smbclient
Backend Error Handler

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#17 Post by ove »

A couple of words about the dimming.

It still dims as described in my first post here.
On every boot.
But using Fn + arrow to the right gives a perfect brightness.

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#18 Post by rcrsn51 »

ove wrote:This is all I get.
Then your computer is having a problem with USB hardware detection. Turn the printer off, turn it back on and run CUPS again.

Also, type the command

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sane-find-scanner
Does it detect the scanner part of your Photosmart?

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#19 Post by ove »

rcrsn51 wrote:
ove wrote:This is all I get.
Then your computer is having a problem with USB hardware detection. Turn the printer off, turn it back on and run CUPS again.

Also, type the command

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sane-find-scanner
Does it detect the scanner part of your Photosmart?
No.
No SCSI scanners found.
No USB scanners found.

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#20 Post by rcrsn51 »

Are you currently running off a flash drive install? Boot off the CD instead and check CUPS.

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