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Needs of kernel sources SFS

#1341 Post by shinobar »

Sylvander wrote:What should I do with the kernel sources SFS file available for download in the 1st post?
Why is it needed?
What does it do?
Depends what you want to do.
Downloads for Puppy Linux [url]http://shino.pos.to/linux/downloads.html[/url]

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LibreOffice-3.4.2-en-US_skipped.files

#1342 Post by zulhilmi »

pemasu,
just downloaded and installed office from ur package...and this is what i received at the end...

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Re: Needs of kernel sources SFS

#1343 Post by Sylvander »

shinobar wrote:Depends what you want to do.
I don't want to do anything...
Other than run this Puppy OS.
So does that mean I should do nothing with it?
Still don't know why it's offered. :?
None the wiser. :(

I thought I was asking a serious/sensible question.
Yet I got what appears to be a non-informative answer.

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#1344 Post by pemasu »

People who need kernel source sfs, do know what to do with it. You can compile extra...third party kernel module drivers with kernel source sfs.
Also if some module is missing but included with kernel version...you can compile the kernel with sources again and include that missing module and then install the modules with INSTALL_MOD_PATH to safe location and extract that missing module to the kernel pet so that next build puppy has that module included. Or provide it as extra pet.
I have done extra compiles for ndiswrapper and wireless drivers.

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#1345 Post by mikeslr »

Hi Sylvander:

Starting a conversation by stating that you're too lazy to do you're own basic research isn't likely to get lots of people running to your aid. But as you've indicated that you had a serious question, and as I myself didn't know what kernel sources were for, I ran a "wellminded search" and in about 30 seconds found out that they are sometimes needed to compile stuff. Which, to me, seems like the long way to go about changing a pupmode. But what do I know?
You may be right. It would be a good idea if devs were to spell out everything they provide to us. But then, developing stuff might have more of the characteristic of a job where you have to spend more time filling out forms and writing explanatory reports then actually building stuff.
In a perfect world, our devs should be as creative as pemasu and as verbose as I.

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#1346 Post by Sylvander »

1.
pemasu wrote:People who need kernel source sfs, do know what to do with it. You can compile extra...third party kernel module drivers with kernel source sfs.
Also if some module is missing but included with kernel version...you can compile the kernel with sources again and include that missing module and then install the modules with INSTALL_MOD_PATH to safe location and extract that missing module to the kernel pet so that next build puppy has that module included. Or provide it as extra pet.
I have done extra compiles for ndiswrapper and wireless drivers.
Thanks for the info pemasu; I now have some idea for what this sfs is useful.
I'll keep re-reading it until I THINK I understand.

2. Another question regarding a problem:
(a) I made the live CD, and booted it, and everything looked good, except...
When I tried to make the pupsave file at 1st reboot...
It asked if I wanted to make one, and went through the motions..
Except toward the end, it didn't display a list of storage devices that I could choose to save on...
And when booting back in...
No pupsave was found...
Because no pupsave had been made.

(b) Is that because there are no suitable drivers [for storage devices?] included in the kernel?

(c) How do I get it to make a pupsave file?

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#1347 Post by Jim1911 »

Sylvander wrote:2. Another question regarding a problem:
(a) I made the live CD, and booted it, and everything looked good, except...
When I tried to make the pupsave file at 1st reboot...
It asked if I wanted to make one, and went through the motions..
Except toward the end, it didn't display a list of storage devices that I could choose to save on...
And when booting back in...
No pupsave was found...
Because no pupsave had been made.

(b) Is that because there are no suitable drivers [for storage devices?] included in the kernel?

(c) How do I get it to make a pupsave file?
Possibly a bad download, however you can try shinobar's pupsaveconfig. which IMO is better for save file creation at first shutdown.

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#1348 Post by pemasu »

Sylvander. I believe your faced problem with using live cd and trying to create savefile to the usb has something to do with scripts regarding savefile....like shutdownconfig...rc.shuthdown, it is possible that my fixes to the binaries which are also called may be responsible. Savefile creation and installation needs working framework of scripts and binaries. I know the problem about non booting from usb but that has been fixed in init script level. Kernel also has usb-storage.patch which I believe Iguleder has included in 2.6.39.4 kernel.
I will test your situation when I have time. I am now busy with next 3.1 kernel test version.

In my next 3.1 kernel all relevant puppy patches has been included also.

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#1349 Post by pemasu »

zulhilmi.
I have used libre office downloader called Get Libre Office from the menu. It downloads and creates sfs of Libreoffice automatically. I used it to make finnish Libre Office to my son and it worked ok for me. I have also en Libre Office sfs created by the same 01mickos great app. I think that I have uploaded one Libre Office sfs also to the repo. Use sfs downloader icon to get list of available sfs applications.
In exprimo repo is the pet Libreofficehandlers which creates needed mime bindings and rox right clicks for Libre Office. Makes life easier.
About your long list. I am not sure what do you want to report with it ?

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#1351 Post by James C »

pemasu wrote:For those adventurous ones.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=71755

Guess you can count me in....... :lol:

Downloading now.....

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#1352 Post by edoc »

Will be downloading and testing here as well.

QUESTION: If I load this on a non dual-core laptop is it good practice to include "nosmp" in the boot code?
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#1353 Post by James C »

edoc wrote:Will be downloading and testing here as well.

QUESTION: If I load this on a non dual-core laptop is it good practice to include "nosmp" in the boot code?
For whatever it's worth. I automatically add "nosmp" to the code on all my single-core hardware.May or may not make a difference in most cases so I just add it to be cautious.

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#1354 Post by Sylvander »

SUCCESS! :D

1. Made the pupsave [named squeezesave] using Pupsaveconfig, then uninstalled Pupsaveconfig and used my usual method of editing rc.shutdown to be given a "Save the session = Yes/No" at shut-down/reboot.
For info see this.

2. Was also able to edit the isolinux.cfg file on the ISO, so that my pupsave on an internal HDD is treated as if a pupsave on a Flash Drive.
Here's the method I used.

3. Haven't yet been unable to do anything I want to do. 8)

4. How do I make larger the text I see as I type in the "Message body"?
It also displays too small.
Used "View->Zoom", but it doesn't look good.
Zoomed yet again, and it doesn't look too bad, almost acceptable.
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#1355 Post by pemasu »

Edoc and James C. I am not familiar with nosmp command. I mean I dont know what it overrides if the kernel is smp compiled. I think you need to read the kernel boot time command reference manual. I remember I posted it once to the forum when someone asked about it. So there should be some obscure thread about boot time codes - commands somewhere in this forum. Kernel.org had that reference manual somewhere in their web pages.

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#1356 Post by James C »

From http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Document ... meters.txt
1791 nosmp [SMP] Tells an SMP kernel to act as a UP kernel,
1792 and disable the IO APIC. legacy for "maxcpus=0".


https://lkml.org/lkml/2007/8/16/48
maxcpus= [SMP] Maximum number of processors that an SMP kernel
- should make use of.
- Using "nosmp" or "maxcpus=0" will disable SMP
- entirely (the MPS table probe still happens, though).
- A command-line option of "maxcpus=<NUM>", where <NUM>
- is an integer greater than 0, limits the maximum number
- of CPUs activated in SMP mode to <NUM>.
- Using "maxcpus=1" on an SMP kernel is the trivial
- case of an SMP kernel with only one CPU.
+ should make use of. maxcpus=n : n >= 0 limits the
+ kernel to using 'n' processors. n=0 is a special case,
+ it is equivalent to "nosmp", which also disables
+ the IO APIC.

Guess that answers that question.... :)

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#1357 Post by pemasu »

James C. Thanks. So....using maxcpus=0 or nosmp should do the uniprocessor trick. Disabling IO APIC might have side effects so the maxcpus=0 could be reasonable.

Edit if I understood it right, maxcpus=1 restrict the cpus to one in smp kernel without disabling IO APIC. The description was little obscure for non-english person.

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#1358 Post by thkn777 »

Hello,
after installing OpenOffice with the Package Manager I get the following error when trying to start any of the modules:

"/root/%U does not exist"

What did I wrong? How can I overcome this and make the application start?

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#1359 Post by pemasu »

I wonder what OpenOffice did you download. I havent uploaded OpenOffice to the Exprimo repo.
But...go to /usr/share/applications. Right click the OpenOffice something or swriter or whatever related .desktop files which that pet installed ....and choose open as text. Remove %U from exec row. Do that to every .desktop file that pet installed.
I would have recommend you to use sfs apps loader icon (in jwm) and downloaded LibreOffice it offers.
Or in menu > document > get libre office which downloads and creates the libre office sfs in your comp, if you have done savefile and you use frugal install method. Not sure how sfs works with full installs. Needs some tricks I think. There isnt any layered system needed in full installs.
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#1360 Post by thkn777 »

openoffice.org_3.2.1-11+squeeze2

You can find it, when you open the package manager and type "open" in the search box.

Repository selected is puppy-common, additional repository is debian-squeeze-main

Hope that helps...

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