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starhawk · Posted: Thu 03 Nov 2011, 02:54 Post subject:

Ha.

"Idiot, you are." Yoda says to me.

Works fine as long as you choose the right screen res. Picked 800x600 last time and it cut the monitor rather than giving me a desktop. This time I chose 1024x768 and it's there.

Would be more comfortable if I had the NeoMagic driver present and working, but then again it gave me no end of trouble in Igu's Guy Pup. Could be Guy Pup didn't have the driver working perfectly, could be something's up with this old laptop... dunno.

What I do know is that I have a black screen with a white cursor. I move the cursor over to a specific area on the left side of the screen, and the "taskbar" (dock?) pops out absolutely immediately. Be nice if I knew how to change the wallpaper, but I'm not sure I want to push my luck that far Wink

Congrats, synth, you've made a fairly modern OS that works on a very, very old laptop (this thing is at least 15...) and with very useable performance (from what I can tell so far) at that. Well done, sir, well done.

...that said it's 3am here (well, 5min till...) and I really don't feel like staying conscious any longer today so it's off to bed for me.

snayak · Joined: 14 Sep 2011 Posts: 229

turbo pup is an excelent creation.

Where can I find the devx for turbo pup v1.0?

Sincerely,
Srinivas

starhawk · Posted: Thu 03 Nov 2011, 13:53 Post subject:

Wallpaper changer doesn't work. Locks up hard instead (mouse moves but nothing else works). Not sure what's up with that...

ldolse · Joined: 23 Oct 2009 Posts: 366

Puppyt · Posted: Fri 04 Nov 2011, 03:03 Post subject:

@starhawk
- from memory, synth deliberately went 'back to black' and jettisoned the wallpaper and other trinkets to streamline performance. Check out sc0ttman's "Akita" thread, where he's pushed the TurboPup base to gel with Wary5 pets (http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=67811). Beta4 has just been released, and it's working very nicely for me on a Lenovo T60. sc0ttman might give you some pointers on wallpaper issues if you want to stick to synth's original.
Smile

EDIT: AAAAaargh! You were just THERE on the thread earlier today - I have told you absolutely nuttin' you didn't already know. Mucho Embarassed

starhawk · Posted: Fri 04 Nov 2011, 13:39 Post subject:

Heh-heh. I know puplite (what Akita will soon replace) -- somewhere I think I've still got the CD-RW of PupLite 4.0 that I used a very long time ago Very Happy

Somehow I managed to miss the whole "I'm using TurboPup as a base!" thing... I'll send him a PM in a little bit.

starhawk · Posted: Sat 05 Nov 2011, 13:22 Post subject:

Still looking for that driver.

Just curious, does anyone know when synth logged in last? I'd send him a pm but if he hasn't been around in a year, I'm not going to waste my time or Murga's bandwidth.

Aitch · Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 6825 Location: Chatham, Kent, UK

starhawk · Posted: Sat 05 Nov 2011, 14:18 Post subject:

Waaay ahead o' ya. He rather sharply pointed me back here.

sc0ttman · Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Posts: 2363 Location: UK

starhawk · Posted: Sat 05 Nov 2011, 21:20 Post subject:

Thanks, man! That's very useful.

starhawk · Posted: Tue 08 Nov 2011, 19:12 Post subject:

Hmmm... slight problem, even if I put it under /etc/xdg/templates/_root_.jwmrc, it refuses to be persistent on reboot. Thought I'd found the culprit (duplicate line) which I removed, rebooted, and the problem is still there.

Of note, I did modify your code a little bit, but I don't see my change affecting anything... here's what it reads...

CLAM01 · Joined: 22 May 2010 Posts: 78

Starhawk,
Dell Latitude cp's work well with most puppys. I have a cpi that I run 3.x and 4.3.x on and an older cp that I use for an old laptops compatibility platform. It has a p-1 with mmx, 166 mhz, 128m ram, of which half is now gone most of the time, for the socket being bad. MMX is late p-1, standard architecture in p-2s. It's the break-over for graphic puppies. With a non-mmx p-1 cpu you spend a lot of time watching screen redraws. With 512m swap my cp runs puppies through early 5.1.1 in frugal installs (I haven't tried it with newest 5.2 or 3.x kernels), running extra sfs, leaving its cd-rw/dvd free (it writes from a 1g save-file on the hd). It is noticeably slow with only 64m ram now, but it has less trouble installing puppies than newer SATA buss laptops with power-conserving non-jolt-start cd drives, which take so long to spin up modern puppies have quit looking for files by the time they are ready to send data.

The NeoMagic video was one of the first LCD/TFT systems. The X-Window system runs just about all neo-magics with a generic "LCD" driver. Nothing special is needed, the refresh is 60, mostly for redraw, since all that's done is light transistor arrays for pixel colors. Puppy's Xs, even the 2.x series, which have trouble with some CRTs, always find mine, 800x600x16 on the cp, 1080x768x16 on the cpi, with the bigger screen. Some puppies suggest 24 planes depth, and you have to change to 16. None of the old LCD/TFT screens can handle 24: Too many additional transistors needed for too little noticeable result, so all had only 16 planes. Since the system just feeds resolution-number of transistor-cluster pixels, as pixel-number resolutions go up screen-image size goes up. The correct resolution for whatever your unit' s screen will fill the screen. Bigger won't work and smaller will give a smaller image, using the resolution number of pixels, leaving the unused extra black, for a border around the image.

starhawk · Posted: Wed 09 Nov 2011, 00:36 Post subject:

Thanks, dude, but (no offense) yer a little late to that party. Figured that out awhile back...

meanwhile, anyone know how to change "mut" back to "pmount" without needing pmount to work...? Thought that enabling mut would enable the system to see my flash drive... instead it just broke pmount Sad

EDIT: screw it, just gonna reinstall... I guess I don't care...

starhawk · Posted: Wed 09 Nov 2011, 02:43 Post subject:

Reinstalled. Also, this probably makes a difference... "under" != "in between" when referring to a pair of XML tags!

PEBCAK.

EDIT: persistent on reboot now. derp=very yes!