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01micko


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PostPosted: Sat 29 Oct 2011, 04:16    Post subject:  
Hi Lob

I have noticed shortcomings in Seamonkey too. Heaven or Hell forbid, maybe Sage is right! Laughing

For this series we will stick with it, but I intend a decent upgrade in the New Year, possibly with Opera as the default browser. I have always liked Opera. I have stuck with Seamonkey because I like it too. However it is getting too closely tied to Firefox, which I have never liked. As a matter of fact, ttuuxx posted a link referring to Firefox's movement to the dark side. Shocked

Over the coming months I am going to rigorously test and abuse Opera, I think it can be made smaller than Seamonkey too. It does have proprietary ties but I will draw attention to pa_mcmlamrock's signature...
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mavrothal


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PostPosted: Sat 29 Oct 2011, 05:05    Post subject:  
01micko wrote:
For this series we will stick with it, but I intend a decent upgrade in the New Year, possibly with Opera as the default browser. I have always liked Opera. I have stuck with Seamonkey because I like it too.


I think webkit-based browsers (Chrome and other metals, Midori, Safari) are better these days because webkit looks like a better engine.
The only problem I see is that no one else besides Google makes a version that is not i686. So older hardware is eliminated.

A Midori 0.4+ (i486/i586) looks an very appealing alternative if possible...
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emil

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PostPosted: Sat 29 Oct 2011, 06:01    Post subject: browser  
I like opera very much, especially the mailing engine is very nice (I have a small business with different office-locations and I have to use Imap accounts to stay in sync everywhere). I especially like the "thread"-view of the mails.

For me opera is superior to seamonkey as browser and mail client, but there is no composer module. How many people need that?

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Ray MK


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PostPosted: Sat 29 Oct 2011, 06:55    Post subject:  
Hi all

Browser? - always a personal choice - however for me

1) Opera 2) QtWeb 3) Seamonkey 4) Dillo

very rarely use firefox - too greedy with resouces.
(especially with ram challenged kit)

Usually run an SFS loaded with JRB's excellent sfs_tcz linker
or expand a tgz into a folder and then execute it from there.

One of the many benefits is that your save_file is kept free of cr*p
and any of the browsers in folders on the hdd are readily / easily
available to your Puppy of choice.

Just my 0002 cents worth - HTH - regards Ray
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wuxiandianzi


Joined: 28 Apr 2009
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Location: china
PostPosted: Sat 29 Oct 2011, 09:29    Post subject: help  
Hi 01micko:

Thank you very much for this pup distro.

I have one problem: when I load devx_XXX.sfs file. Gcc works good, But I have find a "bug", maybe it is not.


# gcc -v
Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc/i486-slackware-linux/4.5.2/specs
COLLECT_GCC=gcc
COLLECT_LTO_WRAPPER=/usr/libexec/gcc/i486-slackware-linux/4.5.2/lto-wrapper
Target: i486-slackware-linux
Configured with: ../gcc-4.5.2/configure --prefix=/usr --libdir=/usr/lib --mandir=/usr/man --infodir=/usr/info --enable-shared --enable-bootstrap --enable-languages=ada,c,c++,fortran,java,objc,lto --enable-threads=posix --enable-checking=release --with-system-zlib --with-python-dir=/lib/python2.6/site-packages --disable-libunwind-exceptions --enable-__cxa_atexit --enable-libssp --enable-lto --with-gnu-ld --verbose --with-arch=i486 --target=i486-slackware-linux --build=i486-slackware-linux --host=i486-slackware-linux
Thread model: posix
gcc version 4.5.2 (GCC)
#


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This: --with-python-dir=/lib/python2.6/site-packages

python2.6 is in /usr/lib/ not /lib/

So I think it will wrong when comoile gcc-version in spup.

I do not know why, When I go to slackware linux, I find the same problem.
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DaveS


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PostPosted: Sat 29 Oct 2011, 11:52    Post subject:  
01micko wrote:


Over the coming months I am going to rigorously test and abuse Opera
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Mick... dont forget to try printing from Opera. Last time I tried (last winter) to print a boarding pass I got a page of junk, and had to revert to Firefox to do the job. Browsers are not just for surfing porn sites Smile
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01micko


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PostPosted: Sat 29 Oct 2011, 17:10    Post subject:  
DaveS wrote:


Mick... dont forget to try printing from Opera. Last time I tried (last winter) to print a boarding pass I got a page of junk, and had to revert to Firefox to do the job. Browsers are not just for surfing porn sites Smile

Just did, printed the forum index page nicely Smile
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01micko


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PostPosted: Sat 29 Oct 2011, 17:17    Post subject:  
Thanks to rcrsn51 we now have guvcview, webcam app

guvcview-1.5.0-s.pet

It requires portaudio, jack, v4l-utils.. all found if you enable the Salix repo in PPM

It also requires an older libavutil and libavcodec which are packaged here and wont interfere with the current ffmpeg libs.
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01micko


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PostPosted: Sat 29 Oct 2011, 17:26    Post subject:  
wuxiandianzi

Consider this:
Target: i486-slackware-linux
Configured with: ../gcc-4.5.2/configure --prefix=/usr --libdir=/usr/lib --mandir=/usr/man --infodir=/usr/info --enable-shared --enable-bootstrap --enable-languages=ada,c,c++,fortran,java,objc,lto --enable-threads=posix --enable-checking=release --with-system-zlib --with-python-dir=/lib/python2.6/site-packages --disable-libunwind-exceptions --enable-__cxa_atexit --enable-libssp --enable-lto --with-gnu-ld --verbose --with-arch=i486 --target=i486-slackware-linux --build=i486-slackware-linux --host=i486-slackware-linux
Thread model: posix
gcc version 4.5.2 (GCC)

Usually, when another dir location is specified as an argument of configure it is under $prefix Wink It isn't obvious there but if you got the source (available from Slackware repos) and ran ./configure --help I bet that would totally satisfy your curiosity. Smile

By the way, python is tested as working.
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sc0ttman


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PostPosted: Sat 29 Oct 2011, 17:43    Post subject:  
01micko wrote:
Over the coming months I am going to rigorously test and abuse Opera, I think it can be made smaller than Seamonkey too. It does have proprietary ties but I will draw attention to pa_mcmlamrock's signature...
Quote:
It's stupid to use inferior software for ideological reasons.
--Linus Torvalds

Good to hear Opera is being considered..
It's really good, I didn't want to admit it, but there's no denying it..

For what it's worth (not much I'm sure) I have found that Puppy Linux in particular (new and old) seems to render page slowly in Firefox more and more often - particularly AJAX, JS and even high quality images laden pages..

Not to mention that different JS frameworks (jQuery, mooTools, Dojo, etc) have widely varying performance results across the various browsers - with FF not doing great with many of them (jQuery is a good all-rounder) in comparison to Opera and Chrome...

Seamonkey is about the same as FF for me, their rendering engine is clearly lagging behind webkit and some others.. A lot of sites seem to load much smoother and faster in Chrome, or my personal favourite over the last 6 months, Opera.

(Not including elinks and links, which I love!)
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DaveS


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PostPosted: Sat 29 Oct 2011, 18:04    Post subject:  
If anyone wants to play with the latest Opera (11.51) I uploaded an sfs here http://puppylinuxstuff.meownplanet.net/DaveS/opera/
Tested on Slacko/Wary/Racy
ps: am aware menu icon is missing Sad

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rcrsn51


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PostPosted: Sat 29 Oct 2011, 18:13    Post subject:  
DaveS wrote:
dont forget to try printing from Opera. Last time I tried (last winter) to print a boarding pass I got a page of junk, and had to revert to Firefox to do the job.

This issue came up a while ago. IIRC, the solution was to take Opera out of fit-to-page mode. Perhaps some of the Opera-lovers Wink can test this.
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jim3630


Joined: 13 Feb 2011
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Location: Northern Nevada
PostPosted: Sat 29 Oct 2011, 20:58    Post subject:  
Lobster wrote:


Is there any other advantage of PAE? Should I go over to that to see if it works as before? Cool

Thanks guys. Smile


Lobster, trying to determine the same but unlike you cann't get enough apps going to lock up either.

on 2d simple paper view pae version is + 10% from the get go.
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DaveS


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PostPosted: Sun 30 Oct 2011, 02:36    Post subject:  
rcrsn51 wrote:
DaveS wrote:
dont forget to try printing from Opera. Last time I tried (last winter) to print a boarding pass I got a page of junk, and had to revert to Firefox to do the job.

This issue came up a while ago. IIRC, the solution was to take Opera out of fit-to-page mode. Perhaps some of the Opera-lovers Wink can test this.


Thanks. Will give this a try.
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Sylvander

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PostPosted: Sun 30 Oct 2011, 04:35    Post subject:  
@ 01micko
Re this post.
1. Installed:
guvcview-1.5.0-s.pet
libavxxx-5250.pet
Enabled Slackware-13.37-salix repo in PPM, and found and installed:
portaudio-v19
jack-1.9.6 [2 entries shown in PPM]
Couldn't find "v4l" or "v4l-utils" [is that an ell after v4?]

2. guvcview is shown in "Menu->Multimedia" but won't run when that is clicked.
When I enter guvcview in a terminal window, I get an error as follows:
"guvcview: error while loading shared libraries: libv412.so.0: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory"
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