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nooby

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PostPosted: Fri 21 Oct 2011, 09:35    Post subject:  

Lobster thanks.

smokey01 is my Hero. Wow that was a good presentation.

The only thing just now that I feel unsure of is this iptel thing.

I mean why would them go on providing this service for free?

Who are they?

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PostPosted: Fri 21 Oct 2011, 20:12    Post subject:  

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I mean why would them go on providing this service for free?

Who are they


Perhaps you could do some research and provide an essay?
http://www.iptel.org/

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PostPosted: Fri 21 Oct 2011, 21:20    Post subject:  

smokey01 wrote:
Barry I have done the same.

Recompiled it in a virgin frugal of wary-5.2 and put the dotpet here:
http://www.smokey01.com/software/psip/Psip32-1.2-Wary52.pet

It seems to work better on later kernels and more modern equipment <10yrs.

I did have trouble installing devx. It kept complaining "there are too many menu item for pupdial to handle"

I installed and used load_sfs to get the devx to work, then it compiled fine.

The sound did droped out occasionally and the volume and mic sliders in the call window were set at zero and wouldn't move. Obviously a problem with sound.

We are not having the same problem with Lucid, Slacko, Fatdog or Dpup Exprimo.

We also had problems in Racy with the sliders. I'm not sure what you have done differently in racy and wary but something must be different to the others.

Cheers.


I regret upgrading Wary/Racy to GTK 2.24.5, as it does some things quite differently. That may be the cause of the problem.

Probably though in the long run it is good that I upgraded, once any issues are sorted out. Then of course the GTK 2.24.x series will remain as-is forever, the last of 2.x.

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PostPosted: Sat 22 Oct 2011, 19:23    Post subject:  

Will Nooby make it?
Will Micko be singing?
Will Dogle be heard?
Will JamesBond be baby sitting?
Will Eric be bring virtual coffee?
Will Grant be explaining new features?

Few hours to go . . . Smile

Next conference call on Sunday October 23 2011 at 1300h GMT daylight saving time
conference room no is 528

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PostPosted: Sun 23 Oct 2011, 07:28    Post subject:  

Haha I am too shy to do someting like that.

And not sure about my headsets either. And not sure which
Puppy that already have it installed?

And this iptel who are them really? Why give somethign for free
if it don't pay back? Such servers must cost a fortune?

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PostPosted: Sun 23 Oct 2011, 16:45    Post subject:  

hi all

A quick update

regarding the problems with older hardware (10 years plus) dogle has found that if you are using version 0.26 and reduce your call quality from 6 to 4 it actually improves the performance

catdude is compiling version 1.2 with the default sample rate set at 8000mhz instead of 16000mhz to try and prevent it locking up on older hardware which we will be hopefully testing tomorrow

cheers

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Sylvander

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PostPosted: Sun 23 Oct 2011, 18:51    Post subject:  

1. "if you are using version 0.26 and reduce your call quality from 6 to 4 it actually improves the performance"
How/where should I do this?
I have 2003 hardware->running Lupu-526->Psip32 Puppy Phone version 0.26.

By-the-way, if anyone is wondering where I disappeared to during the conference, my son phoned from London->[you probably head the phone ringtone], so I muted my mic and took part in the call [my wife took it on the other phone downstairs, I was on the extension upstairs at the PC].
Whilst talking to him I could faintly hear the conversation coming from the earphones which were lying on top of my desktop PC.

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PostPosted: Sun 23 Oct 2011, 19:08    Post subject:  

hi Sylvander

I thought you sounded great in the conference call yesterday but if you think it could be better this is what to do:-

choose "configure" then "edit config file" in the main psip window

the line number in the version I have is 28 and reads

--quality 6 #Can be changed between 1 - 10, 10 being the best.

simply change the 6 to a 4 and save the file, psip may have to be restarted for the change to take effect.

and if it does not work for you simply change it back

hope this helps

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PostPosted: Sun 23 Oct 2011, 19:29    Post subject:  

1. "I thought you sounded great in the conference call yesterday but if you think it could be better this is what to do"
I have no complaints about the quality of sounds I'm hearing.
Except I did notice that when Lobster spoke lots/continuously and rapidly, he was breaking up somewhat.
Should I leave well alone?
What kind of performance improvement is involved anyway?
And only obtained when sound quality is sacrificed?
Performance and sound quality as measured by what?
Data throughput?
Sample rate?
Frequency range?

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PostPosted: Sun 23 Oct 2011, 19:30    Post subject:  

Stripe wrote:
--quality 6 #Can be changed between 1 - 10, 10 being the best.
I will add that option to psip too.

cheers!

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Stripe

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PostPosted: Sun 23 Oct 2011, 19:40    Post subject:  

Sylvander
dogle's sound quality was better than it usually was, he seemed to not be breaking up as much, and he said that's what he was trying. but I thought you sounded great with no breaking up of the sound at all.

I am not a developer Laughing just trying to pass on information that may be of use to others that are having issues.

hope you understand

Don

another tip from smokey01 and JamesBond
If you want to make a party call (3 or more people) use the conference room (you can use any room as long as it is empty not just 528) as when more users join a party line the resources needed increase exponentially.
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PostPosted: Sun 23 Oct 2011, 20:16    Post subject:  

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Lobster spoke lots/continuously and rapidly, he was breaking up somewhat


Smile

My mental break up is on going . . .
Sanity is no way to cope with reality . . . Wink

Dogles voice was much clearer as others have noticed.
I left 10 minutes to set up Puppy phone in Slacko rc2 - it took me 40 minutes . . .

1. Make sure your mic is working - it actually took me 30 mins to realise that no one could hear me . . .
2. Get the latest available compile - that should be 1.2
3. Do both iptel tests (music and echo)
4. Make sure in preferences you are linked to the right sound card

Thanks for the chat, testing, updating, info on Titanic, etc. guys Smile

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PostPosted: Mon 24 Oct 2011, 18:16    Post subject: which pkg is best for me?  

Sorry for being dumb, but I'm getting confused! Which package is best for me? I wanna stick the latest stable puppyphone into Akita, which basically has a Wary 5.1.x 'core', so a Wary 511 pet would probably work best...

Or, I would be happy to compile it, but can't seem to find sources or build scripts...

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PostPosted: Mon 24 Oct 2011, 19:29    Post subject: Re: which pkg is best for me?  

sc0ttman wrote:
Or, I would be happy to compile it, but can't seem to find sources or build scripts...

Sources with build instructions here: https://chiselapp.com/user/jamesbond/repository/psip/index. Login as "anonymous", then click the "Timeline" link. From there, choose which release you want to use (generally speaking you want to use the latest one, which is at the top, or you can use the 1.2 release). From there, click the "tarball" link.
cheers!

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PostPosted: Tue 25 Oct 2011, 07:33    Post subject:  

Hi all

sorry to report that the modification to 1.2 reducing the default bit rate to 8000mhz did not improve the compatibility with older hardware,

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