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bigpup


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PostPosted: Fri 21 Oct 2011, 08:29    Post subject:  
Slacko 5.29.5 frugal + save file.

While doing a Nvidia driver install by way of Slickpet.
After clicking on install pet,
Before the install finished.
Got window telling me to run xorgwizard.
During countdown got finish windows for pet install.
Then got pet installed message on top of finish window.
The point trying to make,
got window on top of message, on top of window, on top of message.
Seems sequence of events overlapping each other.
I understood what was happening, but a newbie would be confused.
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PostPosted: Fri 21 Oct 2011, 08:31    Post subject:  
tasmod wrote:
Mick,

Check this video. Would you be interested for Slacko.

Bootsplash


Is it hard to set a bootsplash up that hides the boot process?

It might take a little extra space in a Puppy OS, but it would make Puppy on booting look like more of a finished OS.
The only thing in using one is being able to enter boot parameters and also to be able to disable it for booting diagnostics.
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PostPosted: Fri 21 Oct 2011, 08:37    Post subject:  
8bit,

That's my first effort. I was working on extending grub but found pizzasgood's Pebble which he stopped development on. I just continued on it and modded an up to date initrd.gz.

It can be disabled by changing menu.lst and it can also pause during boot to use selections.
Animation of sorts is supported by changing the jpg on the fly. It runs at approx 40 frames a sec

Pizzasgood has it setup so a live cd can be created which uses it.

It works here on a USB install. I understand it will work on a Full install.

I'm still testing.

I posted in the cutting edge section.
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PostPosted: Fri 21 Oct 2011, 09:11    Post subject:  
Thank you tasmod!
I will have to check it out.
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PostPosted: Fri 21 Oct 2011, 09:57    Post subject:  
bigpup wrote:
01micko wrote:
Quote:
On first shutdown, at save option window, selected save to sdb1 (the flash drive).
On reboot did not have save file on drive , but some of the directories.
Is this what should happen?


Yes.. because that saves to the entire partition so the drive becomes "/". If you choose save to file then it works like a normal frugal, my preferred method which works on the wife's macbook.

What didn't work right? Can you elaborate?

BTW, it's normal that not all dirs are there, only ones that you have actually written to (as in install pets etc) get saved. It then becomes the top layer in the layered filesystem.

I stopped using it by saving that way, but will do another install and see what happens.
One thing that happened was nothing in menu->shutdown would work.

This computer is making me nuts and babel to myself Mad
No matter how I install to this flash drive I can not get it to offer a save option to save to sdb1 (the flash drive).
All I get is make a save file option.
Can someone else do an install to a USB flash drive and see what you get?

The first time I tried (manual frugal install) I got the option window with save to sdb1 option.

Now, after install with universal installer or manual frugal install,
all I get is the save file option window.

Note:
Ok, just thought of something. This flash drive is a Fat 32 format. That may be why not seeing save to sdb1 option.
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PostPosted: Fri 21 Oct 2011, 10:28    Post subject:  
bigpup wrote:
bigpup wrote:
01micko wrote:
Quote:
On first shutdown, at save option window, selected save to sdb1 (the flash drive).
On reboot did not have save file on drive , but some of the directories.
Is this what should happen?


Yes.. because that saves to the entire partition so the drive becomes "/". If you choose save to file then it works like a normal frugal, my preferred method which works on the wife's macbook.

What didn't work right? Can you elaborate?

BTW, it's normal that not all dirs are there, only ones that you have actually written to (as in install pets etc) get saved. It then becomes the top layer in the layered filesystem.

I stopped using it by saving that way, but will do another install and see what happens.
One thing that happened was nothing in menu->shutdown would work.

This computer is making me nuts and babel to myself Mad
No matter how I install to this flash drive I can not get it to offer a save option to save to sdb1 (the flash drive).
All I get is make a save file option.
Can someone else do an install to a USB flash drive and see what you get?

The first time I tried (manual frugal install) I got the option window with save to sdb1 option.

Now, after install with universal installer or manual frugal install,
all I get is the save file option window.

Note:
Ok, just thought of something. This flash drive is a Fat 32 format. That may be why not seeing save to sdb1 option.


Hi bigpup

I just did a test to install Slacko to a usb drive.
It all seems to have worked perfectly.My flash drive is identified as 'sdc1' and it already contained 528.
I added another folder then copied the three needed Puppy files into it,ran grub4dos and booted it.
At the first shutdown it asked me if I wanted to make a savefile as normal and it suggested placing it in 'scd1' to which I agreed.
On reboot the savefile was created and present.
I believe the flash drive is vfat formatted but I'll recheck that later.
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PostPosted: Fri 21 Oct 2011, 14:33    Post subject: Re: Saving RAM to pup_save file  
mavrothal wrote:

Maybe something with yaf-splash/gtkdialog end then?...


Indeed ...
Code:
# ps | grep yaf-splash
 9257 root       0:00 grep yaf-splash
# yaf-splash -font "8x16" -outline 0 -margin 4 -bg orange -placement top -text "Saving RAM to 'pup_save' file..." &
[1] 9402
# ps | grep yaf-splash
 9402 root       0:00 /bin/ash /usr/bin/yaf-splash -font 8x16 -outline 0 -margin 4 -bg orange -placement top -text Saving RAM to 'pup_save' file...
 9442 root       0:00 /usr/X11R7/bin/yaf-splash -font 8x16 -outline 0 -margin 4 -bg orange -placement top -text Saving RAM to 'pup_save' file...
 9616 root       0:00 grep yaf-splash


Calling yaf-splash is slacko (the way is called from pup_event_frontend_d) triggers 2 instances of yaf-splash. Shocked
So I guess the first one is killed OK after snapmergepuppy but the other stays.

The problem is the " -font "8x16" " argument that makes yaf-splash to think that is the old yaf-splash (commit #100917).
Eliminating " -font "8x16" " makes "Saving RAM to 'pup_save' file..." go away after merging
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PostPosted: Fri 21 Oct 2011, 16:09    Post subject:  
Messing around this afternoon.
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PostPosted: Fri 21 Oct 2011, 16:19    Post subject:  
Slacko 5.29.5
Installed to USB flash drive using universal installer.
Flash drive formatted ext3
On first shutdown
Get save option to save to sdb1 (the flash drive)
(You will only get this option if it is a Linux format)

Choose save to sdb1.
On reboot changes seem to be saved and Slacko working.

Problems after doing stuff:

1.Save button on desktop -after selecting button get message saving ram to pup_save file
Nothing happens and message just stays there.

2.Trying to install pet or package in PPM.
Get click OK to install pet -nothing gets installed.
Click on package in PPM -starts install and PPM locks up.

3.After trying to install something.
menu->shutdown nothing works.

Seems this save to sdb1 option causes problems if done to a USB flash drive.
Could someone confirm or tell me it's me causing these problems.

Just make sure to format with a Linux format and choose the option to save to the flash drive not make a save file.
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PostPosted: Fri 21 Oct 2011, 16:25    Post subject:  
@ all

The message that stays there when saving to usb (hitting save icon) is fixed. (RC2)

@ bigpup

Shinobar did report a similar bug with petget. There is a fix. I was reluctant to put it in as I have done extensive testing on usb and can not reproduce. It seems it is hardware specific. I'll put the fix in.
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PostPosted: Fri 21 Oct 2011, 16:43    Post subject:  
01micko wrote:
@ all

The message that stays there when saving to usb (hitting save icon) is fixed. (RC2)

@ bigpup

Shinobar did report a similar bug with petget. There is a fix. I was reluctant to put it in as I have done extensive testing on usb and can not reproduce. It seems it is hardware specific. I'll put the fix in.

Thanks for letting me know it is not me messing up. Smile
If I do a normal Pup_save file, Petget seems to work OK.

I'll wait for RC2 and see how it works with this option (saving to partition)

Note:
This is a fairly common hardware, Dell computer, that usually just works with any Puppy.
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PostPosted: Mon 31 Oct 2011, 23:17    Post subject: kindly remove / error post
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PostPosted: Thu 29 Dec 2011, 10:45    Post subject:  
emil wrote:
@rcrsn51, thanks, that worked
it is faster, it stops after the white dots and then there is a red
pausing Shocked
shocked me first, but all went well Very Happy

@jades, thanks for info, i found it, this change was in April


Sorry to inject an off topic question but I'm wondering why the dots turn red and it seems to take forever to boot? One of the most important (to me) features of Puppy is the boot and shut down times.

Is this added (red Dots) pausing in some way turn offable? Or at least why was it added?
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PostPosted: Tue 10 Jan 2012, 09:43    Post subject:  
Barry is sorting out Fido
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02644

Hopefully Puppy will soon have the option to not run as root
- I imagine I still will Rolling Eyes

Does anyone have time to help with this useful initiative?
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=595168#595168

Mick are you gonna do a Spup/Slacko on the latest woof2
anytime?

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PostPosted: Sat 04 Feb 2012, 19:24    Post subject:  
Hi

I'm particularly interested in the audio improvements in Slacko over Lucid

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Audio improvements, eg. audio and recording in mhwavedit working


apart from newer kernel, what other sound improvement are there?
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