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aarf

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PostPosted: Tue 11 Oct 2011, 22:46    Post subject:  

Webcam app? I would have it as essential.
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PostPosted: Wed 12 Oct 2011, 01:36    Post subject:  

Not to sound dumb, but I noticed devx for compiling in Slacko RC seems to be missing from the additional SFS files in Slacko's replacement for quickpet. The kernel source SFS is there, but not the devx.
Or am I looking in the wrong place?

My sound being muted on booting is now history and works fine.

Also, when I check /tmp/xerrs.log, I have to say that is the least amount of errors I have seen in any Puppy.
Of course, I have not tried installing desktop widgets.
That usually shows a bunch of errors on configuration files not being found and positioning errors as to configuration files also not found.

But I love to see an xerrs.log that is almost empty.
It tells me you are on the right track with bug squishing.
You must be pretty good at a game called "Bop the Mole". Laughing

I am still trying to figure out why a save to the pupsave file is so slow from the desktop when compared to shutdown or reboot.

Also, I did not mention this before, but I had tried to modify rc.shutdown to comment out the three parts that save to the pupsave and that is what initially got me into trouble as commenting out those lines also evidently breaks the desktop save.
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PostPosted: Wed 12 Oct 2011, 01:47    Post subject:  

Just finished a manual frugal install on the old P3 test box.Really short and sweet.....no problems yet. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed 12 Oct 2011, 02:45    Post subject:  

Finally I was able to download the RC at a reasonable speed.

I'm running my package builder against it, small packages should arrive soon Smile

I expect most of them to be smaller than those we use now, maybe we could replace some packages with those to save some size.

EDIT: here's a sample: 157 KB, while the package we use now is 284 KB.
gftp-2.0.19.pet
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pet

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Filename  gftp-2.0.19.pet 
Filesize  157.07 KB 
Downloaded  128 Time(s) 

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PostPosted: Wed 12 Oct 2011, 03:26    Post subject:  

Quote:
Webcam app? I would have it as essential.

Every other distro has one, at least in their repo. I've raised the issue already, but apart from some recent misunderstandings, it gets ignored. We used to have a live discussion by 'nickbiker' the world's leading expert on webcams, kams, cams, w.h.y., but he left the stage a long time ago. His website was still up, though about a couple of years back. More recently, I offered this link to BK:
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1047633/one-writes-linux-drivers-235-usb-webcams

As for savefiles, I have never ever used them, but recently ghost savefiles have been cropping up all over the place. These non-existent files have, inter alia, prevented making FULL installations. BK has found something amiss in the Wary code, so let's hope his new release clears up this 'feature'.

I vaguely remember how it was to be young, keen and thrusting, so to speak. However, apart from Moses, the greatest con trick perpetrated on the human race was by the guy whose name is synonymous with 'portal'. His sin was to become a serial releaser of defective SW in his quest to become the world's richest person - a kind of backdoor world domination envisaged by his predecessor three millenia earlier. Perfect software has been shown mathematically impossible. Notwithstanding, it would be nice if some developers would take the odd week/month off, have a few beers, spend more time with the family, smell the roses. Best inspiration comes when least expected eg in the proverbial 'bath'. The brain is a strange implement; it's easier for it to remember past events, resolve problems, etc when it is not presently engaged on that activity - kind of backgrounded. Limbic system?, subconscious? Who knows!
Clearly defined objectives help. This was the approach selected by john biles.
Accept new input without giving instant smart *ss replies. A lifetime of experience in the sciences suggest that some of the best ideas have come from outsiders who were not carrying the baggage of inside 'wisdom' - like that other great Aussie, Barry J Marshall.
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PostPosted: Wed 12 Oct 2011, 04:40    Post subject:  

Quote:
small packages should arrive soon


igu Cool

Glad you made it
Downloaded and installed (seemed to include a logo which the original did not when I clicked on 'about') - version number is the same - so if smaller, this is great. Smile

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PostPosted: Wed 12 Oct 2011, 05:44    Post subject:  

rcrsn51 wrote:
There is a report in the Printers section that a full install of Slacko5295RC may be making a /tmp folder that is lacking a full set of write permissions.

Can anyone confirm this?


Considering the number of community members who swear by full installs, I was hoping that someone would take a few seconds to check this.

It also affects any program run as a non-privileged user that writes to /tmp.
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PostPosted: Wed 12 Oct 2011, 06:32    Post subject:  

using the regular RC. alsa wizard doesn't work, just flashes up then disappears



I'm also getting an error in the PPM. When i choose a package from one of the slacky repos, and examine dependencies. It basically lists the actual deps, then continues starting at A and list every single package as a dependency. For instance, this is what i get for google earth... or any app.

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PostPosted: Wed 12 Oct 2011, 11:06    Post subject:  

Ummm ... had some trouble building package because of spup's libraries, some are too new while the others are too old. Annoying.

I setup port forwarding and made the family desktop machine (which is quite powerful) run a listening NetCat that forwards all input to Bash, so essentially, it's a remote shell - I connect to it from my netbook and it compiles stuff at insane speed Laughing

This thing runs on top of the RC with 2.6.39.4 and I use it to build all packages automatically, through a seemingly regular rxvt-unicode window. Kinda funny - it feels "native" because this isn't PuTTY or SSH or whatever, but my netbook doesn't choke. Laughing

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PostPosted: Wed 12 Oct 2011, 12:10    Post subject:  

OK I know we have 5.3 youtube intros
here is one I did earlier . . .
http://youtu.be/H2M4wVGj64Q

Will add others here:
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/ArtSpot

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PostPosted: Wed 12 Oct 2011, 15:16    Post subject:  

rcrsn51 wrote:
rcrsn51 wrote:
There is a report in the Printers section that a full install of Slacko5295RC may be making a /tmp folder that is lacking a full set of write permissions.

Can anyone confirm this?


Considering the number of community members who swear by full installs, I was hoping that someone would take a few seconds to check this.

It also affects any program run as a non-privileged user that writes to /tmp.


Running full install of Slacko.5.29.6 RC and see nothing in tmp directory regarding printer (Brother-Hl-2140)
Printed doc from abiword and spreadsheet from gnumeric. No problem

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PostPosted: Wed 12 Oct 2011, 15:20    Post subject:  

@majorfoo: Right-click on the /tmp folder and select Properties. Are all the "Write" boxes checked?
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PostPosted: Wed 12 Oct 2011, 15:34    Post subject:  

rcrsn51 wrote:
@majorfoo: Right-click on the /tmp folder and select Properties. Are all the "Write" boxes checked?


here is what I get - slacko-5.29.6 RC
slackotmp.png
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 Filesize   18.58 KB
 Viewed   757 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Wed 12 Oct 2011, 16:14    Post subject:  

Thank you. That is definitely a problem.
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PostPosted: Wed 12 Oct 2011, 22:01    Post subject:  

Yet another manual frugal install of 5.29.5.As expected,everything working on initial boot.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Slacko Puppy, version 5.29.5

Chip description:
oem: NVIDIA
product: G98 Board - 5610002u Chip Rev

Driver used by Xorg:
nvidia

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: " 1440x900 " Depth: Depth 24

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video

# glxgears
10872 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2174.400 FPS
10580 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2116.000 FPS
10872 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2174.400 FPS
10629 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2125.800 FPS
10520 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2104.000 FPS
10356 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2071.200 FPS


-Computer-
Processor : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.80GHz
Memory : 1034MB (216MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Wed 12 Oct 2011 08:59:29 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : CMI8738-MC6 - C-Media CMI8738
Audio Adapter : ICH4 - Intel ICH5

Ethernet controller : ADMtek NC100 Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100
Multimedia audio controller : C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738
VGA compatible controller : nVidia Corporation G98 [GeForce 8400 GS]
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