Dpup Exprimo 5.X.15

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pemasu · #1041 Post by **pemasu** » Sun 02 Oct 2011, 20:06

Tman, yes, I wondered earlier your folder name, but I thought that you had typo, when you had space in your folder name. I dont ever use spaces in linux folder or file names.

Tman · #1042 Post by **Tman** » Mon 03 Oct 2011, 00:14

Pemasu,

I'm just being curious; I noticed that when using either file managers included in Xprimo, I could drag files to the desktop and it would create a shortcut there.
I can't seem to do that in Macpup, so I wanted to ask you if you are using a different pinboard or have you altered some settings in E17 to acheive this?

pemasu · #1043 Post by **pemasu** » Mon 03 Oct 2011, 05:24

E17 is my compile. I used Iguleders e17 script and modified it so that it worked for my needs. Then I compiled e17 in dpup. I didnt do anything special, just added some extra modules which lacked from Iguleders specs.
I havent launched any recent MacPups so I cant compare. Does those dragged symlinks also work for you ?

I am now in Slacko pfix=ram situation (trying to compile something) and cant boot to the Exprimo until I am finished.

James C · #1044 Post by **James C** » Mon 03 Oct 2011, 05:45

Just doing a general hardware check on an old box with Exprimo 5.X.7 so here's a quick report.Running live pfix=ram everything working and correct on initial boot......as expected.

# report-video
Dpup Exprimo, version 5.X.7 on Mon 26 September 2011

Chip description:
0.0 VGA compatible controller
nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000] (rev a4)
oem: NVIDIA
product: NV18 Board - p119s0nz Chip Rev A4

X Server: Xorg
Driver used: nv

X.Org version: 1.7.7
dimensions: 1024x768 pixels (321x241 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/root/ as report-video,
and archived with xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log as report-video-full.gz

-Version-
Kernel : Linux 2.6.39.4 (i686)
Compiled : #1 SMP Mon Sep 19 11:13:16 GMT-8 2011
C Library : GNU C Library version 2.11.2 (stable)

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3800+
Memory : 2074MB (161MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Mon 26 Sep 2011 12:45:00 AM GMT-8
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA8237 - VIA 8251

Multimedia audio controller : VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller
Ethernet controller : VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II]
VGA compatible controller : nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000]

Pretty much works ootb on all of my desktops.

Tman · #1045 Post by **Tman** » Mon 03 Oct 2011, 08:37

pemasu wrote:E17 is my compile. I used Iguleders e17 script and modified it so that it worked for my needs. Then I compiled e17 in dpup. I didnt do anything special, just added some extra modules which lacked from Iguleders specs.
I havent launched any recent MacPups so I cant compare. Does those dragged symlinks also work for you ?

Oh, the dragged files in Xprimo are not symlinks after all as I had assumed.
They are copies of the original files. And no, I haven't been able to do this in Macpup. Perhaps one of the developers has turned off that option.

...okay back to sleep.

Tman · #1046 Post by **Tman** » Wed 05 Oct 2011, 16:41

I have made a pet for IceWM-1.3.7. What I did was I took the debian-i386 version, and made the following changes:

- took out all of the old themes (except for 1), and added more modern-looking themes.
- total of 11 themes
- modified the quicklaunch bar
- modified the preferences for smoother scrolling over the main menu (and other stuff)
- wmswitcher is also included for pups that don't have it (the same one in xprimo)
- added some icons to go with the quicklaunch and wmswitcer
- added "WM-Switch" to the menu, like it how it was done for Jwm
- added some stuff from the Icewm-lucid pet , mainly ice_config.sh

This pet was made for Dpup but also tested okay in Lucid Puppy.
The only problem I have found is that the tray is not working for Icewm in Dpup, even though it works in Lucid Puppy.

EDIT: The original pet is removed.. the improved pet can be downloaded -> here

edoc · #1047 Post by **edoc** » Wed 05 Oct 2011, 23:41

Online streaming problem with Seamonkey ...

EDIT

http://www.wsbradio.com/

When you click on Listen Live the commercial plays fine but then the program does not.

Any idea why, please?

MoebusNet · #1048 Post by **MoebusNet** » Mon 10 Oct 2011, 01:10

edoc wrote:Online streaming problem with Seamonkey ...

http://wbsradio.com

When you click on Listen Live the commercial plays fine but then the program does not.

Any idea why, please?

Out of curiosity I clicked on your link. It led to:

http://order.1and1.com/;jsessionid=1291 ... _id=133480

Are you sure that's a good site?

edoc · #1049 Post by **edoc** » Mon 10 Oct 2011, 01:21

Sorry, I fat-fingered it ...

http://www.wsbradio.com/

MoebusNet · #1050 Post by **MoebusNet** » Mon 10 Oct 2011, 01:33

Downloaded Pwidgets-2.3.7. Clicked pet to install, didn't seem to finish install, shut down. Rebooted, not in menu, but typing 'pwidgets' in console brought up GUI. Downloaded Pwidgets_extras-2.3.1. Clicked on pet to install, didn't seem to install, shut down. Rebooted, not in menu (again), but typing pwidgets in console brought up GUI. Configured GUI changes (rearrange widgets) and voila' Pwidgets seems to run!

Pwidgets still not in Menu, but there doesn't seem to be much to do to straighten this one out (said the CLI-illiterate).

Anyway, this is what it looks like:

James C · #1051 Post by **James C** » Mon 10 Oct 2011, 01:43

edoc wrote:Online streaming problem with Seamonkey ...

EDIT

http://www.wsbradio.com/

When you click on Listen Live the commercial plays fine but then the program does not.

Any idea why, please?

Frugal install of Exprimo 5.X.7.........same result as you with SeaMonkey 2.4.1 but no problems with Firefox 7.0.1.Listening to regular programming right now.
Same flash and same plugins so SeaMonkey should work too but......it obviously doesn't.I've got SeaMonkey 2.4.1 on a Windows install...I'll boot into that a bit later and see what happens.

EDIT:
For what it's worth, SeaMonkey 2.4.1 in Windows is a no go as well.

MoebusNet · #1052 Post by **MoebusNet** » Mon 10 Oct 2011, 01:48

edoc wrote:Sorry, I fat-fingered it ...

http://www.wsbradio.com/

Listen Live is playing for me.

I'm a puppy newbie, all I can think of is maybe you need the latest version of Flash? (Menu>Internet>GetFlash Install Flashplayer). You can use Puppy Google Search to make sure I'm not totally off-base. The other thing is to make sure you're using the latest version of Seamonkey (Help>Check For Updates). I'm using 2.4.1 version.

Hope this gives you some directions to try... best of luck.

James C · #1053 Post by **James C** » Mon 10 Oct 2011, 01:58

Back in Exprimo....restarted SeaMonkey with all addons disabled and no problems. Regular streaming is playing fine here too now.

pemasu · #1054 Post by **pemasu** » Mon 10 Oct 2011, 08:17

I still have couple of usability things to sort out. Some missing icons to include, couple of obsolete to remove. Flash downloaders need to be updated to 11.X version. Also mplayer usage instead of flash as browser plugin interests me. I am gonna test one script/plugin. Usage would be using Firefox-gecko-mediaplayer-mplayer compo. Yep...next version will have Firefox 7.0.1.

Maybe...I will have today evening an uploadable 5.X.8 ready.

edoc · #1055 Post by **edoc** » Mon 10 Oct 2011, 12:18

Thanks for checking it out.

It may have been a site problem because I just went back in - having changed nothing (at least not intentionally so) - and it is working fine.

I say that because I am allowing Seamonkey to auto-update -- something I usually do not allow as they tend to break things from time to time -- and so maybe an unseen SM update fixed the problem.

In any case all is well ... for now!

Thanks again!

pemasu · #1056 Post by **pemasu** » Tue 11 Oct 2011, 19:05

Dpup 5.X.8 has been uploaded. It uses 5.10.2011 woof. It has many changes and updates which I have tested and got feedback in 5.X.8 SMP thread.
JWM-505 and E17 window managers.

I test in this version Iguleders 2.6.39.4 kernel. I want to know if there is difference in gtk application responses. Radky has timed them with his atomic clock and I should get feedback.

Browser is now Firefox 7.0.1. It should have resolved RAM usage issues and I want to use it for awhile. Flash updater now uses 11.X base. there is still older script in my-applications/bin folder for those who would like to use older 10.X version. Ffmpeg has now support for mp4 conversion and optional support for webM-VP8 codec. Radkys magnificent PupApplications has been updated. Puppy Psip Phone for free internet calls has been included. There is separate thread in Cutting Edge section about it. Wallpapers has been updated. Multimedia section has gotten some new friends. Pmusic-2.18 with equalizer and Nad3 theme. Test the Wings window preset with Nad3 and you understand how Pmusic has evolved.
Graphics section has Mashup for photo printing. Vattery uses now vattery-acpitool only. older script is in my-applications/bin folder for those who want vattery-ibam battery status info.
Guvcview-1.5.0 has been added. I need it for usb microscope, lol.
For Murga-linux mass readers, there is Threadget but dont tell that to Flash. Lol.
Couple of stu90`s small nice gui apps has been added.

Iso size 143 Mb. Yeah I know. Blames can be directed to the Spam Reports thread straight. Lol. And there is Iguleders small size approach anyway.

Download link: http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/DpupSque ... xprimo5X8/

Kernel source sfs: http://www.iguleder.info/puppy/kernel/l ... 6.39-4.sfs

edoc · #1057 Post by **edoc** » Tue 11 Oct 2011, 19:25

I was just going to ask about the next stage. Perfect timing.

Browser is now Firefox 7.0.1

Since it's not the integrated Internet suite that Seamoney was, are users to load Thunderbird and then manually link FF & TB for inter-operation? Or are features like URLs in an E-mail automatically opening a Firefox browser window, and sending a URL in Firefox to an E-mail address auto-opens a Thunderbird E-mail already activated?

Is everything in the 5X7 "repository" good with 5X8?

Thanks!

pemasu · #1058 Post by **pemasu** » Tue 11 Oct 2011, 19:35

I have used separated Thunderbird in /mnt/home all the time. I have had policy that everyone uses the mail app which they prefer. Seamonkey with full suite has been exception in my policy. I know that Seamonkey with Mail has been preferred choice for many. But...I wanted to make the choice for Firefox now. Usually Firefox has been my choice for Browser. I dont want to include any separated mail app, because I still think that people want to use the mail app they are accustomed. I use Thunderbid solely. One mail app for all just dont work.

It was my choice for this build. I hope there wont be bloody browser - Mail wars. Please, spare me from them. I have posted about my choices several times during last year with my builds. But I can stand for any kind protests if you want express them. Lol. I promise not be easily provocated.

So... I will make manual change to my Thunderbird to open in Firefox. It takes approximately one minute to perform that task. Or less.....

Everything in Exprimo repo is usable for 5.X.8. If you find something that needs some libs or...please post about it and I will fix the pet or sfs. I will now update some stuff in that Exprimo repo. I have neglected it lately and it needs polishing.

Tman · #1059 Post by **Tman** » Tue 11 Oct 2011, 19:58

Just downloaded version 5.X.8 and tried it out for about 10 minutes or so.
You know, I don't think there is really a need for me to make any new puplets for the time being, cause this one has practically everything I need. I only have to add a handfull of apps:

- Gimp, Edit-SFS, Startmount and Nvidia-full driver

The rest would just involve me customising the aesthetics.

Everything works for me out of the box; sound, videos..etc. Dvd's work perfectly in Gnome-Mplayer; subtitles work as well so there is no longer a need for me to use VLC. Great job.
This is now officially my favorite version of Puppy, and I am going to use this as my default Puppy over my own Slickpup..I will just be adding Slickpup looks to Xprimo.

Great puplet. Thanks for your hard work, and continuous improvement.

edoc · #1060 Post by **edoc** » Tue 11 Oct 2011, 20:18

I didn't mean to start anything - just wasn't sure what the added step will be for the average user to get two discrete Internet apps to play nicely together.

FF and TB are fine.

It's been a long time since I used anything but the easy-to-use Seamonkey Suite or the small Midori/Claws combo and the tiny Dillo.

If one so desired can FF be uninstalled and replaced with SM?

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