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Lobster
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PostPosted: Tue 04 Oct 2011, 06:56    Post subject:  

FBI backdoors
http://www.bostonreview.net/BR36.5/evgeny_morozov_internet_spying_privacy.php

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PostPosted: Tue 04 Oct 2011, 09:40    Post subject:  

Is it possible/easy to make encrypted calls using Puppy Phone?
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PostPosted: Mon 10 Oct 2011, 05:37    Post subject:  

Encrypted calls are coming

. . . meanwhile how many of these tests have you done?
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1197924

(that should keep the tin hats happy for a while . . . )

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PostPosted: Fri 14 Oct 2011, 01:05    Post subject:  

http://techcrunch.com/2011/10/13/no-need-to-fear-this-face-tracking-automated-suspicion-generator-citizen/

The UK has more cameras than anywhere. Personally I look forward to open circuit TV access and the ability to monitor suspicious proprietary software engineers and others up to no good . . . Wink

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PostPosted: Fri 14 Oct 2011, 07:27    Post subject:  

As a continues noob status guy sorry bad grammar there.
I wonder about something that happens almost every day and
several times every day.

I like old mechanical things with no batteries in them.
Clocks that you wind up and them being totally mechanical
no battery warns down and need to be replaced.

So I look for such at Ebay and similar places in my own language.

Take this one from Old Russia? Anlida Alarm Clock.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250907058794

When I save the main picture of that one
then it say a script is still running.
Should I stop it or let it continue?
I have no idea what is safest thing to do.

Usually if one don't let it continue and
actually stop it then it does not save.


Now was that a download of a Trojan or Key Spy program on my computer?
What other purpose could such "scrips" have? Where do them end up?

Should I start a new thread about this one? It maybe derail this thread or drown in all the other themes we have here?

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PostPosted: Tue 18 Oct 2011, 01:11    Post subject:  

sorry I haven't read through this whole thread but nooby you can easily encrypt different types of communication such as Skype and Ekiga connections, don't know much about the Puppy Voip client though.
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PostPosted: Tue 18 Oct 2011, 02:07    Post subject:  

Encryption is a red herring. Them prepare laws that say that if you encrypt
your messages then the authorities have to be given the keys to it.

Now European Union may accept the law or not but you can be sure of
that if you encrypt your communication then the authorities in Sweden
will see you as someone them need to look into seriously.

Why else would you need such desperate measures them would reason.

That is at least what I have gathered through the years how them think.

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PostPosted: Tue 18 Oct 2011, 04:10    Post subject:  

nooby wrote:
Encryption is a red herring. Them prepare laws that say that if you encrypt
your messages then the authorities have to be given the keys to it.

Now European Union may accept the law or not but you can be sure of
that if you encrypt your communication then the authorities in Sweden
will see you as someone them need to look into seriously.

Why else would you need such desperate measures them would reason.

That is at least what I have gathered through the years how them think.


That's kind of funny considering that Sweden is one of the only countries that has refused to hand over IP addresses to the U.S. government of people using their proxy servers. On the other hand as I said before in another thread not just relying on proxy servers for things like email such as pgp keys or other encryption methods more or less prevents most snooping unless they want to spend months decrypting an email to my wife telling her i need her to buy me some more spices at the commissary before I get home to cook on the grill.

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PostPosted: Tue 18 Oct 2011, 04:35    Post subject:  

nooby wrote:
Encryption is a red herring. Them prepare laws that say that if you encrypt
your messages then the authorities have to be given the keys to it.

In the UK If you don't give the police the key when they ask you can be fined and/or jailed ...
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/10/03/ripa-decryption_keys_power/

e.g. in the UK you could be jailed for not being able to remember a password to encrypted data Shocked
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PostPosted: Tue 18 Oct 2011, 04:59    Post subject:  

Here in the U.S. they need a warrant for something like that, and well if I just so happen to lose my encryption key cause well I accidentally deleted/lost it well then that's just too bad, one great thing to use for that is one time pads. I'll have alot of these different encryption techniques/programs built into Puppy Crypt when I finally get around to getting out a beta sometime over the weekend hopefully.
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PostPosted: Sat 29 Oct 2011, 03:31    Post subject:  

All my passwords are at
http://lastpass.com/ which I can sometimes remember
so I can easily help out any govt agency needing access to my secret plans for . . . Embarassed . . . gosh nearly gave it away . . .

Meanwhile RIM are coerced by those safeguarding their (sorry I meant our) interests . . .
http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/news/rim-establishes-indian-blackberry-surveillance-lab-44065

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PostPosted: Sat 29 Oct 2011, 08:38    Post subject:  

Lobster

Surveillance is the new world currency - buy in, now! Wink


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PostPosted: Sat 29 Oct 2011, 23:07    Post subject:  

Does the always running in root thing bother ya? I still don't know what the big deal is about it but it is something to be paranoid about. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun 30 Oct 2011, 00:28    Post subject:  

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Does the always running in root thing bother ya?

No. Cool
It is pedaled by Security FUD who those who misunderstand what and why we use Puppy.

In a multi-user networked system. For example in a company intranet. Every user should have their own virtual place in the company system server. People logging in should not have access to payroll and computer updates, next years new prototypes etc.
You need secured servers, passwords and restrictions on devices and Internet connects etc.

Puppy on single use home machines is used by those who want access to their files and are capable of encrypting directories or running from USB or multi-session. I do not want a password when I go into my computer. If using Ubuntu or another system on a single user system I turn off the password protect and run as su.
My computer, my rules.

For those who want to quake, tremble and spread ignorance about the nature of the 'risk', the only solution is a tin hat award.

For the rest use the Puppy firewall and GROWL in Puppy 5.3
read and apply this if you must
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/security

Now be happy. You are safe. Smile

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PostPosted: Sun 30 Oct 2011, 04:11    Post subject:  

Lobster I wonder about this thing you write.

Lobster wrote:
If using Ubuntu or another system on a single user system I turn off the password protect and run as su.


Is that really possible. I have heard them have a 15 minutes time limit
on being su so it would switch back automatically.

But maybe it derails the thread. Do you have time for me contacting you on PM or should I start a new thread. I want to learn this thing you talk about.

I have Kubuntu named Netrunner going now and it allow me to have access to the hdd in NTFS which is most unusual for a ubuntu.

title Netrunner 2011 frugal iso boot of netrunner-3.2.iso
find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /netrunner-3.2.iso
kernel /netrunner/casper/vmlinuz rw file=/cdrom/preseed/netrunner.seed boot=casper iso-scan/filename=/netrunner-3.2.iso noeject noprompt quiet splash --
initrd /netrunner/casper/initrd.lz

When I ask Ubuntu people about it them are big question marks
asking me why would one want to do frugal. What is it etc.

Them are so into Ubuntu that them don't trust being single user is good.

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