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#141 Post by James C »

wuwei wrote:
Tasgarth wrote:Dont know if anyone else has had a similar problem with Slacko B3 :
shutdown > power off computer did not... start : the computer is 'rebooted'
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With B2 : no problem.
For the fun ,I updated my B2 (frugal install) > B3 and now I cannot power off. It 'reboots' again :cry:
Confirmed
Same error on my machine.
No shutdown problems here....... 2 frugal installs of 499.5 Beta 3.Main Athlon XP box and old P3 test box..... both shutdown normally.

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#142 Post by wuwei »

More precisely:

1. savefile upgraded from B2>B3:

- click on /usr/bin/wmpoweroff = reboots
- wmpoweroff icon dragged to desktop = reboots
- Menu-shutdown-poweroff = reboots
- terminal entry: wmpoweroff = reboots

2. B3 booted pfix=ram:

- Menu-shutdown-poweroff = shutdown

So this problem occurrs only in the upgraded savefile.
But still, it is a new and unexpected error.

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#143 Post by 01micko »

wuwei wrote:More precisely:

1. savefile upgraded from B2>B3:

- click on /usr/bin/wmpoweroff = reboots
- wmpoweroff icon dragged to desktop = reboots
- Menu-shutdown-poweroff = reboots
- terminal entry: wmpoweroff = reboots

2. B3 booted pfix=ram:

- Menu-shutdown-poweroff = shutdown

So this problem occurrs only in the upgraded savefile.
But still, it is a new and unexpected error.
yep, needs a sleep, fixed for B4

EDIT: to elaborate.. something it seems is not killed, I don't know why yet, but adding a "sleep 2" to sbin/poweroff fixes it :? . I captured what gets echoed to "/tmp/wmexitmode.txt" and that is ok, so really the sleep is only a work-a-round for now.

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#144 Post by Lobster »

shutdown > power off computer did not... start : the computer is 'rebooted'
I did not have this
then I did
and now it seems to have gone again and shut down really shuts down . . .
Thank goodness it is fixed in b4

I am about to start a Slacko cloud support thread in 'cutting edge' section
Please support that and Psip which is now in rc9 - works on Fatdog (to perfection apparently) and the 32 bit version is also improving on a daily basis . . .
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#145 Post by drblock2 »

01micko

While the lame lame and flac encode/deocde utilities are included in B3, oggenc and oggdec seem to be missing. Could you add them for those of us who do not wish to mess with ffmpeg?

They are really quite tiny: oggenc (60KB), oggdec (14KB).

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Re: Cups-PDF

#146 Post by rcrsn51 »

wuwei wrote:But does anybody have an idea, why CUPS-PDF - in Slacko B3 - doesn't print pictures while it does print text?I am trying to print PDFs from various web sites, but the pictures never come through.
How well a web page converts to PDF has more to do with your browser and the complexity of the page than the PDF printer driver.

For example, if you convert this forum page to PDF, do the graphics show?

Does "Print to File" work differently than CUPS-PDF?

Does CUPS-PDF work better for you in other Puppies?

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#147 Post by Tasgarth »

EDIT: to elaborate.. something it seems is not killed, I don't know why yet, but adding a "sleep 2" to sbin/poweroff fixes it Confused
sleep 2 : now it's good

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Re: Cups-PDF

#148 Post by wuwei »

rcrsn51 wrote:
wuwei wrote:But does anybody have an idea, why CUPS-PDF - in Slacko B3 - doesn't print pictures while it does print text?I am trying to print PDFs from various web sites, but the pictures never come through.
How well a web page converts to PDF has more to do with your browser and the complexity of the page than the PDF printer driver.

For example, if you convert this forum page to PDF, do the graphics show?

Does "Print to File" work differently than CUPS-PDF?

Does CUPS-PDF work better for you in other Puppies?
Thanks I tried your suggestions and got this:

1. converting this page with CUPS-PDF gives me an empty pdf-file and the printer line shows: /etc/cups/interfaces/CUPS-PDF failed.
2. Yes, "print-to-file" choosing "pdf" works as it is supposed to. All graphics are showing. I tried several different pages and it works everytime.
3. Yes, CUPS-PDF works in 528 without problem. It does not in Akita, if that is any consolation :D

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#149 Post by 01micko »

Working ok for me .. no printer installed.. did you install a printer?


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#150 Post by rcrsn51 »

I don't have a problem either with this forum page. But I noticed that the PDF file created by Seamonkey was MUCH larger than the one made by Firefox. If you don't wait for Seamonkey to finish, you can get a corrupted PDF.

[Edit] This was done with FF 3.6.17.
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#151 Post by 01micko »

I just printed to pdf from firefox-aurora-6.0 from PPM (I compiled) and with my huge image just posted the file is 300k bigger than the one I referred to in said post (seamonkey). So, bearing in mind I compiled seamonkey too it may be a compile option that I have missed that causes size difference.

wuwei.. what browser were you using? (seems to me could be browser dependent)
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#152 Post by DaveS »

Working just now but interested to try this. I have generic versions of Seamonkey and Firefox installed, so it will be interesting. Later................
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#153 Post by wuwei »

01micko wrote:I just printed to pdf from firefox-aurora-6.0 from PPM (I compiled) and with my huge image just posted the file is 300k bigger than the one I referred to in said post (seamonkey). So, bearing in mind I compiled seamonkey too it may be a compile option that I have missed that causes size difference.

wuwei.. what browser were you using? (seems to me could be browser dependent)
Thanks for your answer.

I am using FF 7.0 from /mnt/home and have ghostprint 9.0 installed. CUPS-PDF isn't printing anything now, and neither does my HP F2180. It doesn't seem to be FF, because SM isn't any better. I can't recall any of these problems in B2.
So, maybe I just wait for B4. :cry:

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#154 Post by rcrsn51 »

wuwei wrote:I am using FF 7.0 from /mnt/home and have ghostprint 9.0 installed.
Do you mean Ghostscript? Since CUPS-PDF works directly with Ghostscript, that's your most likely culprit. Why did you upgrade?

If you do a clean install and add no new packages, can you duplicate the problem? That should always be your first bug-tracking procedure.
CUPS-PDF isn't printing anything now, and neither does my HP F2180. It doesn't seem to be FF, because SM isn't any better.
Have you installed the usb-0.1 patch needed for USB printers in B3?

However, messing with Ghostscript could affect other things. You can't play mix-and-match with the Linux printing system. :wink:

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#155 Post by jpeps »

01micko wrote:
jpeps wrote:I'm currious about how slacko uses cache. There seems to be a wide variation, even on a fresh boot. Here's two consecutive boots:

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Mem: 1014724K used, 19788K free, 0K shrd, 19496K buff, 908328K cached
Mem: 222108K used, 812404K free, 0K shrd, 28940K buff, 132512K cached
Also, after subtracting out buff and cache, I'm already showing more memory used in slacko than lucid 525, and I've got a lot more loaded in lucid.. including devx, google-earth, more apps, etc.
Yeah that looks weird. Any output in the kernel logs? dmesg?

Have you tried 3 headed dog? Is it the same?
I tried dog...same problem. I tried before going to bed and then in the morning. Must be a problem with the new kernel

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dog:Mem: 438108K used, 596404K free, 0K shrd, 47040K buff, 312900K cached
dog:Mem: 1019076K used, 15436K free, 0K shrd, 39440K buff, 874324K cached

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#156 Post by wuwei »

rcrsn51 wrote:
wuwei wrote:I am using FF 7.0 from /mnt/home and have ghostprint 9.0 installed.
Do you mean Ghostscript? Since CUPS-PDF works directly with Ghostscript, that's your most likely culprit. Why did you upgrade?

If you do a clean install and add no new packages, can you duplicate the problem? That should always be your first bug-tracking procedure.
CUPS-PDF isn't printing anything now, and neither does my HP F2180. It doesn't seem to be FF, because SM isn't any better.
Have you installed the usb-0.1 patch needed for USB printers in B3?

However, messing with Ghostscript could affect other things. You can't play mix-and-match with the Linux printing system. :wink:
Thanks for your help rcrsn51.

Yes, of course, I meant ghostscript, silly me.

By now it looks as if the savefile is thouroughly messed up.
I'll wait for B4 or B5 and establish a new savefile and see what problems remain.

Until then, and thanks again.

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#157 Post by rcrsn51 »

This issue is further complicated by the fact that there are several PDF printer drivers that are all named CUPS-PDF.

Slacko has a version that uses a CUPS backend script named pdf-writer.

Luci has two - a binary backend named cups-pdf and the script pdf-writer. It calls one printer CUPS-PDF and the other PDF-Writer.

[Edit] In fact, both of the Luci drivers are using pdf-writer. The cups-pdf backend is an entirely different animal and doesn't appear to be used at all.

The two Luci versions just appear to be different releases of jcoder24's pdf-writer project from 2007.
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#158 Post by DaveS »

Ok here is what I did: loaded a forum page in Firefox 7. Selected print and chose CUPS-PDF. It created a file as expected. Clicked on file and it loaded into some strange sh*t that looked like a terminal window (Zathura?). Closed that and loaded it into ePDFviewer. Printed just fine from there. (used a lot of paper and ink :( )
So I guess it all works OK here.
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#159 Post by pemasu »

it loaded into some strange sh*t that looked like a terminal window (Zathura?)
That saved my evening, I couldnt help but smiling and laughing. Best description of unexpected app outlook.

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#160 Post by DaveS »

Ran a test using first Firefox 7 then Seamonkey (very latest) both generic from Mozilla. Got exactly the same file size for both. Printed fine from both. Used a lot of paper and ink from both :)
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