Slacko B2

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nooby · #201 Post by **nooby** » Fri 16 Sep 2011, 20:39

Sorry I edited and you wrote faster than I edited it.

Now tested in terminal and console and cli and urxvt too.
# sensors
coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 0: +45.0 C (crit = +90.0 C)

#

so the CPUtemp pet is not needed now when one know how to get things going.

Would that work in all puppies?

DaveS · #202 Post by **DaveS** » Fri 16 Sep 2011, 20:39

01micko wrote:Dave, did you try abiword and gnumeric?

Not yet... downloaded ready though

01micko · #203 Post by **01micko** » Fri 16 Sep 2011, 20:52

nooby wrote:
so the CPUtemp pet is not needed now when one know how to get things going.

Would that work in all puppies?

Likely it would, though I'm not sure why it isn't loading automatically, still need to find out why.

playdayz · #204 Post by **playdayz** » Sat 17 Sep 2011, 00:14

Trying to run woof-gui in B2, I get the following error. I noticed it first in 3HD. If I have gtkdialog3-7.21 from the Slacko repo installed, woof-gui runs OK, but if I install gtkdialog4, I get this error, and it does something weird to the gtkdialog, gtkdialog3, and gtkdialog4 in /usr/sbin--it turns them *all* into symlinks, circular ones. This just happened in a fresh install of B2. I notice that the gtkdialog3 and gtkdialog4 pets arrange the symlinks differently.

Code: Select all

# ./woof_gui
./woof_gui: ./woof_gui_tabs: /usr/sbin/gtkdialog3: bad interpreter: Too many levels of symbolic links
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01micko · #205 Post by **01micko** » Sat 17 Sep 2011, 00:39

Ok, I'll remove gtkdialog3 from slacko repo, we are not shipping with gtkdialog3, only 4 so gtkdialog3 becomes a symlink to gtkdialog, it's probably messed up because gtkdialog3 was at one point the actual exec. I actually had the same problem with B2 and the ls exec. It certainly makes sense to put symlinks in the pinstall.sh ala slackware's doinst.sh. I might just do that from now on...

01micko · #206 Post by **01micko** » Sat 17 Sep 2011, 01:42

Here's the 3 NO-X pets I have been working on.

*help_NOX is just a dialog prog that aims to be newby friendly offering to download links browser, connect to the net if not connected, connect to IRC chat and download video drivers (doing a test on your card). Yell HELP on the commandline to start the program.

*pns_tool_pup is a hacked version of Porteus Network Setup Tool to comply with Puppy. Thanks to the author fanthom. Be aware it will screw up SNS and other network settings, It is designed to work outside of X but I also created a menu entry for it and it runs in rxvt with a dark grey background. EDIT: Added a sleep in gui mode to catch the end messages

*pmirc is the smallest chat client there is, tiny in size but it gets the job done. Modded very slightly from the original by going-nuts. It also runs outside of X. Invoke by running pmirc.

*links web browser, it's very bare but is fast and fun, no menu entry, type links on the commandline. (if you drop to console and run HELP then it should be offered for download, so no attachment

)

Have fun!

rcrsn51 · #207 Post by **rcrsn51** » Sat 17 Sep 2011, 02:34

01micko wrote:if you put "modprobe coretemp" in /etc/rc.d/rc.local that should be a decent work around. Thanks.

EDIT: that doesn't work for me, "no such device".

What processor do you have? Not all machines will load the coretemp module.

01micko · #208 Post by **01micko** » Sat 17 Sep 2011, 02:37

What processor do you have? Not all machines will load the coretemp module.

Athlon X2, nvidia forcedeth board, however CPUTemp works fine so no bother to me.. just intriguing why the module wont load for those who have the compatible HW.

rcrsn51 · #209 Post by **rcrsn51** » Sat 17 Sep 2011, 02:44

My Athlon box won't load coretemp either. But it uses kxtemp instead which is loaded automatically.

Coretemp is used by many, but not all, Intel machines.

James C · #210 Post by **James C** » Sat 17 Sep 2011, 04:34

Slacko/LXDE live on a box with 256 mb ram and no swap.

# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 246960 241392 5568 0 33808
Swap: 0 0 0
Total: 246960 241392 5568

Lobster · #211 Post by **Lobster** » Sat 17 Sep 2011, 05:02

Tried the links browser and got to the forum but posted to the wrong thread . . .

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 586#564586

It works and the flash ad (now blocked in latest Seamonkey update)
appears as an alternative 4 page ad . . .
In life you can not avoid tax, death and ads

I think the idea of yelling console HELP is good but feel this is pretty raw stuff . . . reminds me of my first ever install of Slackware (took me 5 weeks to get Netscape just about running)
I should imagine the links browser can go to a more friendly HTML help page?
The issue seems to be the Slackware xorg? I have been unable to use xorg in the early alphas or pre alphas of Slacko (when it was Spot) - so know how frustrating that can be . . .

Anyway that is my experience of Links browser - many thanks

01micko · #212 Post by **01micko** » Sat 17 Sep 2011, 05:52

Ah Lobster! Do you want to write such an html page? I do agree the forum is difficult to navigate in links (also lynx and elinks) but it is a way.. the point is that there is help available for those inclined to seek it. Note that the help_NOX prog also downloads a video driver, connects to the internet, even if on wireless, is capable of IRC chat all in less than 10K (compressed) of code.. so your page has to be lean

Thanks for testing.

DaveS · #213 Post by **DaveS** » Sat 17 Sep 2011, 06:17

Mick... have you seen the 23oz GTK theme? It is by far the most professional theme I have ever come across and is faultless in Slacko. Attached .pet includes 23oz GTK theme plus matching JWM theme that I added.

01micko · #214 Post by **01micko** » Sat 17 Sep 2011, 06:23

Hi Dave.. I'm not sold on the jwm theme.. it's pretty close to "teh gray" but the gtk theme is nice.. I'll add it at the expense of the eucalypt one I made for spup-1

Also.. aarf is right about that show-desktop icon!

Iguleder · #215 Post by **Iguleder** » Sat 17 Sep 2011, 06:27

I hope you're aware that the worst themer in the galaxy made Teh Gray ... and that's me

It was originally made for Teh Gray Puppy, a grayish-looking spup derivative that was quite good actually - it was the first Puppy to use compression different than gzip with Squashfs.

At some stage I made so many packages for it that 01micko decided to pick them up and the theme was one of them

Lobster · #216 Post by **Lobster** » Sat 17 Sep 2011, 06:30

is capable of IRC chat

I am just not a console cructacean.
I tried the IRC - it gave me a choice of freenode (and some others)
and then left me to fend for myself. At which point I left.

For some people this will be penguin gold.
They will appreciate what you have done.
I will leave the HTML to them

To put this in perspective. Grant (smokey) has been saying how he
quite likes using Psip Puppy Phone from the console
- it is a very reliable methodology.

These diverse and efficient elements are to Puppys advantage,
they are just not for me . . .

I am just a weakling, quiche munching, GUI loving
tree hugging weirdo - still in shock after spending so long on the command line.

I am off to drink my ovaltine.

01micko · #217 Post by **01micko** » Sat 17 Sep 2011, 06:45

Lobster

Please note that the whole point of these tools is to be as newbie friendly as possible to gain access to X

The motivation is raffy who says that radeon (open source) and vesa X.org drivers fail for him. With this he can get help if he wants or just directly download the ati_fglrx-8.11 (or whatever version it is, latest

) and get X and use his machine. I am not trying to form a geek army!

So.. the html page is not for geeks.. for noobs

zigbert · #218 Post by **zigbert** » Sat 17 Sep 2011, 09:17

Some more X info

The flash in upper right corner of this forum penetrates my desktop (all flashes does). That means I can see the flash at in all desktops as long as a program window is covering the flash position with a entry/edit widget.

I meant to take a snapshot of this showing you how Pmusic shows the flash in another desktop (even if the browser is minimized), but the mtpaint snapthot tool doesn't grab the flash. Even more strange is it that trying to take a snapshot of the actual flash (in correct desktop) also fails.

Sigmund

nooby · #219 Post by **nooby** » Sat 17 Sep 2011, 09:36

Not to stress you but a mobile picture maybe should work?
I am in lupu528 now due to Slacko refused to accept the way I tried to install XF-prot to it.
Most likely my fault.

I boot up in slacko and take a look

Hm looks normal here. I am not sure how you played that pmusic.
you use it to play from your hdd? or some url?

01micko · #220 Post by **01micko** » Sat 17 Sep 2011, 09:50

zigbert wrote:Some more X info

The flash in upper right corner of this forum penetrates my desktop (all flashes does). That means I can see the flash at in all desktops as long as a program window is covering the flash position with a entry/edit widget.

I meant to take a snapshot of this showing you how Pmusic shows the flash in another desktop (even if the browser is minimized), but the mtpaint snapthot tool doesn't grab the flash. Even more strange is it that trying to take a snapshot of the actual flash (in correct desktop) also fails.

Sigmund

This is a known issue with later model nvidia drivers and the latest flashplayers in linux (occurs to me in lupu too, for some time, with all browsers

). Unfortunately, both are proprietary code and both care little about linux. Flashplayer is officially not supported in Slacko.. that doesn't mean it isn't available, but bugs to do with it are not my problem. Cop out? No! Bring on html5! (Who knows what the hold up is with html5 anyway?

) [Very suspicious methinks

]

If it's any consolation, next Slacko (B3 with Seamonkey-2.4B2) ships with Flashblock, it alleviates (without solving) the issue.

Thanks for the report

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