Classic Pup 2.14X -- Updated 2 series

[ttuuxxx]

When I boot TOP9, there are only a few modules loaded (as compared with TOP8, which I'm using at the moment).

The "missing" modules include
8139too; so I can't access the network adapter.

Any help will be much appreciated.

Thanks again,

Sheldon

Hmmm Well I made top9 while running top8 and I haven't tried top9 yet, how disturbing because that's the same module I use, So I guess its time to test top9, usually I don't have to test before releasing, but this time its a definite
I'll work on it and get back to you.
ttuuxxx

[ttuuxxx]

Here's another hard drive wipe app, I added 2 extra colours, The first colour is if you open a terminal and type nwipe the second one is if you use the menu, you'll find it under System/System Status and Config the third one will open if you open a terminal and type nwipeblue
I like the second one the most, the third one is the default blue before I hacked the sources for the first one and the second one is changed with the .desktop file.
enjoy
ttuuxxx

here's a quote"nwipe is a command that will securely erase disks using a variety of recognised methods. It is a fork of the dwipe command used by Darik's Boot and Nuke (dban). nwipe is included with partedmagic"

[oligin10]

Hi Ttuuxxx, I only run testing on that machine with no save file. It is only machine I ever had that happen on, and it is only when running live with Classic Pup. I normally use Opera, and I use that site to test streaming video. I will boot it up in next day or two and verify it is still happening, and if it is, I will install Opera 11.11 and see if it occurs on it also. Thanks, Rob

[ttuuxxx]

When I boot TOP9, there are only a few modules loaded (as compared with TOP8, which I'm using at the moment).

The "missing" modules include
8139too; so I can't access the network adapter.

Any help will be much appreciated.

Thanks again,

Sheldon

I Just checked and 8139too loads perfectly, did you check the md5sum of the iso image, also check if your cdrw/cd etc what every your using isn't scratched.
keep me informed please
ttuuxxx

[nubc]

Eraser (for Windows) installs the command into the context menu, so that when you right click a file you get the option to erase it. Also has a nice routine to erase unused disk space (where deleted files are usually located). Eraser is almost up to DoD standards for data destruction.
http://eraser.heidi.ie/

[ttuuxxx]

Hi Ttuuxxx, I only run testing on that machine with no save file. It is only machine I ever had that happen on, and it is only when running live with Classic Pup. I normally use Opera, and I use that site to test streaming video. I will boot it up in next day or two and verify it is still happening, and if it is, I will install Opera 11.11 and see if it occurs on it also. Thanks, Rob

That opera package you posted the link, they renamed the pet without rebuilding pet.specs file, that will give you an error everytime, there is a extra _1 on the end of the name that needs to be deleted if that is removed the pet will install and give a few missing deps, but it runs fine the missing deps are just for kde and gstreamer which no base puppy has by default.
I'll package the latest version and see how that goes.
ttuuxxx

[sheldonisaac]

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When I boot TOP9, there are only a few modules loaded (as compared with TOP8, which I'm using at the moment).

The "missing" modules include 8139too; so I can't access the network adapter.

I Just checked and 8139too loads perfectly, did you check the md5sum of the iso image, also check if your cdrw/cd etc what every your using isn't scratched.

I did check the md5sum of the iso image, and it matched.

Re the cdrw/cd etc, I didn't use one, but will try.

All I did was (under TOP8) click the TOP9 .iso, and copied the

INITRD.GZ 1083823
PUP_214X.SFS 109420544
VMLINUZ 1751229

to the E:\TOP9\ directory

At the moment (I wish there were a definitive source on how to GRUB load foolproofly), the relevant parts of menu.lst are

Code: Select all

default 0
timeout 4

title Windows 98se
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
chainloader +1
makeactive
boot

title 214x-TOP8-hda6
rootnoverify (hd0,5)
kernel /p214/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 PMEDIA=idehd PDEV1=hda6 psubdir=p214 PUPSAVE=vfat,hda6,/p214\pup_save-jul7.2fs
initrd /p214/initrd.gz

title 214x-TOP9
rootnoverify (hd0,5)
kernel /top9/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 PMEDIA=idehd PDEV1=hda6 psubdir=top9
initrd /top9/initrd.gz

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[MinHundHettePerro]

All I did was (under TOP8) click the TOP9 .iso, and copied the

INITRD.GZ 1083823
PUP_214X.SFS 109420544
VMLINUZ 1751229

to the E:\TOP9\ directory

And the zdrv_214X.sfs???

hth / MHHP

[ttuuxxx]

good catch MHHP

Latest Opera 11MB
http://www.smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/2.14X/S ... .linux.pet

Opera Locales 4.32MB
http://www.smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/2.14X/S ... OCALES.pet

ttuuxxx

[nubc]

ttuuxxx wrote:

nubc wrote:

EDIT: Wary 5.1.1 will play this video without error. Classic Pup 2.14X Top8 plays it with extreme stuttering. Can someone please confirm.
http://vimeo.com/6082433


I would say that is because 2.14X uses one the latest flashes and usually Barry uses an older version, If you swapped flash versions from wary to 2.14x I bet it would fix your issue, The reason I use newer flash versions is because certain flash apps demands the latest version, facebook games is one.

Substituting 'libflashplayer.so' from Wary to Classic Pup did not fix the issue. I did the substitution in usr/lib/mozilla/plugins directory, renaming the old flashplayer.

[nubc]

There is a spelling error in the "214X Log Out Screen". The word "Switch to Joe's Window Manager" is misspelled as "Swith".

[ttuuxxx]

There is a spelling error in the "214X Log Out Screen". The word "Switch to Joe's Window Manager" is misspelled as "Swith".

I already fixed that in top9 the latest release.
ttuuxxx

[ttuuxxx]

ttuuxxx wrote:

nubc wrote:

EDIT: Wary 5.1.1 will play this video without error. Classic Pup 2.14X Top8 plays it with extreme stuttering. Can someone please confirm.
http://vimeo.com/6082433


I would say that is because 2.14X uses one the latest flashes and usually Barry uses an older version, If you swapped flash versions from wary to 2.14x I bet it would fix your issue, The reason I use newer flash versions is because certain flash apps demands the latest version, facebook games is one.

Substituting 'libflashplayer.so' from Wary to Classic Pup did not fix the issue. I did the substitution in usr/lib/mozilla/plugins directory, renaming the old flashplayer.

Latest Seamonkey
http://www.smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/2.14X/S ... -2.3.3.pet

If you install the seamonkey pet above and then turn the HD <--High Definition off, the video plays fine, not choppy at all, but if you turn it on, it becomes choppy.
ttuuxxx

[sheldonisaac]

All I did was (under TOP8) click the TOP9 .iso, and copied the

INITRD.GZ 1083823
PUP_214X.SFS 109420544
VMLINUZ 1751229

to the E:\TOP9\ directory

And the zdrv_214X.sfs???

hth / MHHP

ttuuxx said "good catch MHHP "

Agreed.

I will copy that, too.

Yay, LAN and Internet works!

Sorry I didn't think to look for the net module in zdrv_214X.sfs
(Smacking head)

Thanks again!!!

Sheldon

[James C]

When I boot TOP9, there are only a few modules loaded (as compared with TOP8, which I'm using at the moment).

The "missing" modules include
8139too; so I can't access the network adapter.

Any help will be much appreciated.

Thanks again,

Sheldon

I Just checked and 8139too loads perfectly, did you check the md5sum of the iso image, also check if your cdrw/cd etc what every your using isn't scratched.
keep me informed please
ttuuxxx

My Athlon XP box uses that Realtek driver.......worked fine here.

EDIT:

I've forgotten to copy the zdrv myself....

[ttuuxxx]

nubc I use default precompiled releases of FireFox and Seamonkey, for 2 good reasons, one it saves me a couple of hours each in compiling time, second reason is that they both autoupdate, which means you can always get the latest version automatically which many users really like, but on the other hand the sizes are larger and they aren't compiled specifically for 2.14X, this might result in slower video, but is very unlikely due to the fact I usually tailor 2.14X towards the mozilla releases, like glibC etc. But the HD would make a large difference due to overall video size.
ttuuxxx

[JonT]

Manual frugal install of top 9; booted fine. Solid WPA wireless connection made easily; connection survived reboot. Ixquick is new to me; I like the idea and after light use, seems fine. Watched short flash videos, changed theme, icons, briefly checked out a few apps, no problems found.

oligon10 wrote:

Hi Ttuuxxx, haven't really been keeping up on Classic Pup due to wireless compatability issues. But, did do a quick test this afternoon. Using Firefox, went to http://www.insideline.com and experienced crash of Classic Pup while running in livemode.

Checked out inside.com [edit: insideline.com]; it did crash X; then top 8 did also. Sometimes it crashed to a prompt, sometimes to a black screen. I next copied top 9's Aurora firefox directory to a mounted drive, doing the thing DaveS has recommended to share one copy of a browser among various puppies. Got retro lupu 5.25, because it is browserless, used the Aurora copy. On opening Aurora, the MediaPlayerConnectivity Wizard opened; I cancelled. insideline loaded fine. Back to top 9; insideline okay now???? Is the Media...Wizard a clue to those who know? Back to top 9. pfix=ram, insideline.com crashed to prompt and I saved xerrs.log, attached, as a possible help. Remove the .tar.gz, it's really a text file.

nubc wrote:

EDIT: Wary 5.1.1 will play this video without error. Classic Pup 2.14X Top8 plays it with extreme stuttering. Can someone please confirm.
http://vimeo.com/6082433

Yes, it did stutter, but not if I let it buffer, then play it (nice video). Could it be merely a slow server or net congestion?

A small thing and no different than top 8: on first connection, it takes two clicks of the "scan" button in the internet connection wizard for my network to be discovered (reproducible even with strong signal). Surely even a newcomer wouldn't give up on one click.

Thanks for your efforts, HTH,
Jon

[JonT]

Attachment attempt on previous post failed. Try again.

[nubc]

Ya, that video was probably slow on the server side. Not really worth changing anything in Classic Pup. I like to keep it out-of-the-box as much as possible, so flashplayer is back to original now.

nwipe is good for blasting the entire hard drive/partition, but not a single file.

Here are some considerations for the wipe utility
http://wipe.sourceforge.net/

After some investigating, perhaps a utility based on shred and scrub commands is better for secure file deletion
http://www.slac.stanford.edu/comp/unix/ ... erase.html
How to delete files permanently and securely in Linux
http://techthrob.com/2009/03/02/howto-d ... -in-linux/
Securely delete files with shred
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/openso ... -shred/188
About.com: shred Linux/unix command
http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl1_shred.htm
shred invocation
http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/m ... ation.html

download srm (secure rm) - 97.5 KB
http://sourceforge.net/projects/srm/

I didn't find a download for the Linux/Unix program shred, which is apparently missing in Puppy. Debian has the shred program, but I believe it's part of coreutils. I'm glad to be using ext2 filesystem for the purpose of secure file deletion, because journalled file systems seem to complicate the operation.

[James C]

Using Firefox, went to http://www.insideline.com and experienced crash of Classic Pup while running in livemode. Tried going to same site after startx and it duplicates problem.

No problem on that site from my full install of Top 9 on my old P3 test box.