New help file that now reflects 0.26 with a hyper linked table of contents and everything.
It does need some formatting which gcmartin will address.
dogle, very happy for you to do some proof reading now as I'm sure there are lots of mistakes.
lobster, now I am happier to move forward to an official release date.
caneri, more coffee please.
Fred, good to see you back.
Chat later, 130h GMT BST
Channel 528.
Puppy Phone - VOIP using SIP
smokey01 sent me a PM asking if I'd got this working.
Thought it best to reply here, so he and all can see my reply.
1. I have been having some snags when attempting to set it up and using.
Deleted my lupusave, and restored a backup copy, so as to begin afresh.
Latest install attempt went well.
Deleted ALL I could find of psip.
More than advised.
Re-installed using the latest PET file.
Good result!
Program entry in the Puppy Menu reads "PSIP Puppy Phone".
Program runs [after a reboot].
Looks good.
Added a couple of "Buddies".
[sip:smokey01@iptel.org, sip:lobster@iptel.org, sip:caneri@iptel.org ]
2. PROBLEM:
(a) After I close down and re-run the program, no buddies show.
Clicking the "Refresh Buddies" button doesn't make them appear.
Used "Configure->Edit config file", and added the buddies in there, then...
Shutdown Pjsua, then Start Pjsua, but it doesn't help.
Still no buddies displayed after I click "Refresh Buddies".
(b) Don't know how to setup mic and speakers [test them].
I have a headset with built-in mic [both connections have 3.2mm jacks], and also a USB desk mic [has it's own sound card circuitry built in].
In Skype can specify that this [or that] mic is to be used, but not in PSIP methinks.
3. Found my way to the new online help manual ["PSIP->Help->Help"].
Looks good.
Will begin reading that.
Thought it best to reply here, so he and all can see my reply.
1. I have been having some snags when attempting to set it up and using.
Deleted my lupusave, and restored a backup copy, so as to begin afresh.
Latest install attempt went well.
Deleted ALL I could find of psip.
More than advised.
Re-installed using the latest PET file.
Good result!
Program entry in the Puppy Menu reads "PSIP Puppy Phone".
Program runs [after a reboot].
Looks good.
Added a couple of "Buddies".
[sip:smokey01@iptel.org, sip:lobster@iptel.org, sip:caneri@iptel.org ]
2. PROBLEM:
(a) After I close down and re-run the program, no buddies show.
Clicking the "Refresh Buddies" button doesn't make them appear.
Used "Configure->Edit config file", and added the buddies in there, then...
Shutdown Pjsua, then Start Pjsua, but it doesn't help.
Still no buddies displayed after I click "Refresh Buddies".
(b) Don't know how to setup mic and speakers [test them].
I have a headset with built-in mic [both connections have 3.2mm jacks], and also a USB desk mic [has it's own sound card circuitry built in].
In Skype can specify that this [or that] mic is to be used, but not in PSIP methinks.
3. Found my way to the new online help manual ["PSIP->Help->Help"].
Looks good.
Will begin reading that.
Last edited by Sylvander on Sun 11 Sep 2011, 05:49, edited 1 time in total.
make sure you add your own address to buddies.
If you don't see yourself online then you have done something wrong although our chat worked well.
Play about with mhwaveedit or that little SVR I put in the thread.
When you can record and playback sound, Psip will probably work.
What Puppy are you using?
If you don't see yourself online then you have done something wrong although our chat worked well.
Play about with mhwaveedit or that little SVR I put in the thread.
When you can record and playback sound, Psip will probably work.
What Puppy are you using?
1. Running Lupu-526.
2. Just now added my own address = sip:Sylvander@iptel.org [Note the capital S]
... In PSIP.
Then closed PSIP, and opened the /root/.psip/pjsua.cfg in leafpad, and there was my address added to the bottom of the list.
Yet none of the buddy names are displayed in the PSIP pane.
3. Regarding things read in the help file:
(a) Is a voice-mail account free, or does it cost?
(b) Pity about there being no plans for video capability.
(c) When your voice call came in, and there was the little box with the 3 buttons, I didn't know which did what, and hovering the cursor over each produced no text identification.
(d) The 4 commands involving pjsua seem good to me; I'm inclined to want to see them kept in the prog.
(e) I noticed in my previous install attempt...
That when I used "IPTEL->Music test call", the music played, but there was no way I could see to end the music.
(f) Very recently I noticed the /root/.psip/pjsua.cfg file included a setting = --add-buddy [with no address coming after] but I removed that just in case it wasn't good to have.
The help files have just now told me it's bad.
4. Just now noticed that my %CPU usage is VERY high [90%?]
6 horizontal lines in the usage display at bottom right.
Will try "Ctrl+Alt+backspace" then xwin, and get back.
---
That restored my normally low %CPU usage [5%?]
Dropping toward a single line in the usage display->now below 1 line.
2. Just now added my own address = sip:Sylvander@iptel.org [Note the capital S]
... In PSIP.
Then closed PSIP, and opened the /root/.psip/pjsua.cfg in leafpad, and there was my address added to the bottom of the list.
Yet none of the buddy names are displayed in the PSIP pane.
3. Regarding things read in the help file:
(a) Is a voice-mail account free, or does it cost?
(b) Pity about there being no plans for video capability.
(c) When your voice call came in, and there was the little box with the 3 buttons, I didn't know which did what, and hovering the cursor over each produced no text identification.
(d) The 4 commands involving pjsua seem good to me; I'm inclined to want to see them kept in the prog.
(e) I noticed in my previous install attempt...
That when I used "IPTEL->Music test call", the music played, but there was no way I could see to end the music.
(f) Very recently I noticed the /root/.psip/pjsua.cfg file included a setting = --add-buddy [with no address coming after] but I removed that just in case it wasn't good to have.
The help files have just now told me it's bad.
4. Just now noticed that my %CPU usage is VERY high [90%?]
6 horizontal lines in the usage display at bottom right.
Will try "Ctrl+Alt+backspace" then xwin, and get back.
---
That restored my normally low %CPU usage [5%?]
Dropping toward a single line in the usage display->now below 1 line.
I have installed and played with Psippy a little. Probably I dont have 100 % sane install, but...I have now registered. I suppose it does not matter what phone number you give while registering to the iptel.org. I think that information could be updated to the help-manual or whatever will be the source for newbies like me.
pemasu@iptel.org
I am not sure if my conference room call actually proceeds, I get message: "call has been disconnected: unexpected condition". When I start psip in console, I get message about dialog_disconnectedcall script started and then finished, the script was not included in psip-0.26.pet. I found it from some older pet or compressed package. Okay, there is XX-dialog_disconnectedcall, so I made symlink to that script asking dialog_disconnectedcall, but error message stays.... So...I am more experimenting than understanding. Lol.
pemasu@iptel.org
I am not sure if my conference room call actually proceeds, I get message: "call has been disconnected: unexpected condition". When I start psip in console, I get message about dialog_disconnectedcall script started and then finished, the script was not included in psip-0.26.pet. I found it from some older pet or compressed package. Okay, there is XX-dialog_disconnectedcall, so I made symlink to that script asking dialog_disconnectedcall, but error message stays.... So...I am more experimenting than understanding. Lol.
PM me your pjsua.cfg file.Sylvander wrote:1. Running Lupu-526.
2. Just now added my own address = sip:Sylvander@iptel.org [Note the capital S]
... In PSIP.
Then closed PSIP, and opened the /root/.psip/pjsua.cfg in leafpad, and there was my address added to the bottom of the list.
Yet none of the buddy names are displayed in the PSIP pane.
3. Regarding things read in the help file:
(a) Is a voice-mail account free, or does it cost?
(b) Pity about there being no plans for video capability.
(c) When your voice call came in, and there was the little box with the 3 buttons, I didn't know which did what, and hovering the cursor over each produced no text identification.
(d) The 4 commands involving pjsua seem good to me; I'm inclined to want to see them kept in the prog.
(e) I noticed in my previous install attempt...
That when I used "IPTEL->Music test call", the music played, but there was no way I could see to end the music.
(f) Very recently I noticed the /root/.psip/pjsua.cfg file included a setting = --add-buddy [with no address coming after] but I removed that just in case it wasn't good to have.
The help files have just now told me it's bad.
4. Just now noticed that my %CPU usage is VERY high [90%?]
6 horizontal lines in the usage display at bottom right.
Will try "Ctrl+Alt+backspace" then xwin, and get back.
---
That restored my normally low %CPU usage [5%?]
Dropping toward a single line in the usage display->now below 1 line.
The three little icons are there so when you have Psip minimised you can still answer or hangup. They are the same icons as the main buttons.
From left to right, Answer, Chat & Hangup. Might have to add this to the help documents, forgot
You also have to make sure you close Psip properly otherwise you might have more than one instance running and this can cause problems. It's in all the help documents.
To stop the music press hangup. Remember it's a phone. Whenever you finished checking your voice, talking, listen to music etc, hang up. That's hat you would do with your mobile or home phone.
The voice mail account is free, as far as I know.
We are looking into video, lobster is doing that. What he might not know is version 2 of pjsua has video included. Still in Alpha.
I saw you online when I had you in my buddies as sylvander, no capital S.
Cheers
You are such a fiddler, just like me.pemasu wrote:I have installed and played with Psippy a little. Probably I dont have 100 % sane install, but...I have now registered. I suppose it does not matter what phone number you give while registering to the iptel.org. I think that information could be updated to the help-manual or whatever will be the source for newbies like me.
pemasu@iptel.org correct
I am not sure if my conference room call actually proceeds, I get message: "call has been disconnected: unexpected condition". When I start psip in console, I get message about dialog_disconnectedcall script started and then finished, the script was not included in psip-0.26.pet. I found it from some older pet or compressed package. Okay, there is XX-dialog_disconnectedcall, so I made symlink to that script asking dialog_disconnectedcall, but error message stays.... So...I am more experimenting than understanding. Lol.
I left that XX-dialog_disconnectedcall file in. I should have deleted it as it's a bit of a pain having to keep on closing all of the dialog boxes each time you disconnect. When you remove the XX from the front of the file it's works as planned. Better XX the file out, more peaceful.It sounds like you may not be logged in properly. When you click on menu item IPTel and click on Conference Call room 528, you should hear a voice saying your are the first in the conference. If you are not the first you will hear a beep as someone else is already in the room. When someone leaves you will also hear a beep.
The help file will provide some valuable answers.
Hope to chat later.
Cheers
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Me, Eric, and Grant had an impromptu conference call yesterday. Until I was called away for emergency shopping . . .
Another one today
Sunday 11th September 2011 at 1300h GMT daylight saving time
I was hoping to create a wizard for ffmpeg webcam synch
but have not worked it out yet (not essential but fun)
Any help from smarter pups welcome
Smokey (Grant) is interested in the new serverless SIP feature of PJSUA
- any help with that welcome . . .
There is a quick start guide here:
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Psippy
and also an experimental wizard
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 148#559148
Hopefully Grant will soon be incorporating the sound recorder into Puppy phone (Psip2) - allowing you to add recordings to emails
Beta 3 of Slacko might well contain the latest Puppy Phone
Puppy
Growling, howling, barking
Another one today
Sunday 11th September 2011 at 1300h GMT daylight saving time
I was hoping to create a wizard for ffmpeg webcam synch
but have not worked it out yet (not essential but fun)
Any help from smarter pups welcome
Smokey (Grant) is interested in the new serverless SIP feature of PJSUA
- any help with that welcome . . .
There is a quick start guide here:
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Psippy
and also an experimental wizard
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 148#559148
Hopefully Grant will soon be incorporating the sound recorder into Puppy phone (Psip2) - allowing you to add recordings to emails
Beta 3 of Slacko might well contain the latest Puppy Phone
Puppy
Growling, howling, barking
To clarify my situation. I have made now succesful call. I should have now right pjsua.cfg. Conference call still results in unexpected condition error. I checked all the logs in /tmp/psip. I got internal server, 500, error. Then I thought about my net connection arrangement. I have wireless connection to my separate wlan router which is connected by rj45 to the adsl box which is connected to the phone line. Only phone line we have in the house, lol. Finnish way. Old phone lines to make calls are coming obsolete in Finland. They are needed for adsl still.
Anyway, I changed to use our house in build rj45 network and I disabled the wlan card from my laptop. Just press Fn + Wlan button. Frisbee handled with xbindkeys binding the disabling. Nice feature.
With wired house inbuild rj45 connection straight to the adsl modem the conference call didnt give that error message. I just got message about timeout. Maybe it is due to there wasnt anybody in line at conference room.
Anyway, progress. I am testing now in MNS-003 Office edition, but so far calling seems to work in Dpup Exprimo 5.X.6, Polarpup and MNS.
Buddies list refreshes, I just have Question symbol as first symbol. It misled me thinking it does not poll the server. But when I empty /tmp/psip/buddy-list it writes the polled users ok to the file. So it polls and writes on line users to the buddy-list.
Anyway, I changed to use our house in build rj45 network and I disabled the wlan card from my laptop. Just press Fn + Wlan button. Frisbee handled with xbindkeys binding the disabling. Nice feature.
With wired house inbuild rj45 connection straight to the adsl modem the conference call didnt give that error message. I just got message about timeout. Maybe it is due to there wasnt anybody in line at conference room.
Anyway, progress. I am testing now in MNS-003 Office edition, but so far calling seems to work in Dpup Exprimo 5.X.6, Polarpup and MNS.
Buddies list refreshes, I just have Question symbol as first symbol. It misled me thinking it does not poll the server. But when I empty /tmp/psip/buddy-list it writes the polled users ok to the file. So it polls and writes on line users to the buddy-list.
Smokey01. Thank you of the clarification. Then is probably something in my adsl box firewall, which brakes the connection. I am quite confident anyway that something in my firewall setup is the reason.
And now I remember that in build house rj45`s (4 of them) are connected first to my router and after that to the adsl box.
So...firewall setups in one or both boxes inhibits probably the conference calls. Now I would need to know what I should enable, lol.
And now I remember that in build house rj45`s (4 of them) are connected first to my router and after that to the adsl box.
So...firewall setups in one or both boxes inhibits probably the conference calls. Now I would need to know what I should enable, lol.
1. "PM me your pjsua.cfg file."
Now sent.
2. "From left to right, Answer, Chat & Hangup."
They need those words incorporated in the buttons somehow.
3. "You also have to make sure you close Psip properly"
Now using "Phone->Quit and shutdown pjsua" as a matter of routine.
These 4 entries in the "Phone" menu seem handy to me.
4. "To stop the music press hangup. Remember it's a phone."
OK, I've got it.
Does the Help file explain that? Can't remember, but if it doesn't it aught to.
5. "The voice mail account is free"
Nice; must set one up.
6. "We are looking into video, lobster is doing that."
SUPERB!
This looks like it's going to be all I could hope for.
7. "I saw you online when I had you in my buddies as sylvander, no capital S."
Hmm, strange; I'm sure I typed my user display name with a capital S...
Always do.
Perhaps the server auto-eliminates all upper-case characters by changing them to lower-case.
Now sent.
2. "From left to right, Answer, Chat & Hangup."
They need those words incorporated in the buttons somehow.
3. "You also have to make sure you close Psip properly"
Now using "Phone->Quit and shutdown pjsua" as a matter of routine.
These 4 entries in the "Phone" menu seem handy to me.
4. "To stop the music press hangup. Remember it's a phone."
OK, I've got it.
Does the Help file explain that? Can't remember, but if it doesn't it aught to.
5. "The voice mail account is free"
Nice; must set one up.
6. "We are looking into video, lobster is doing that."
SUPERB!
This looks like it's going to be all I could hope for.
7. "I saw you online when I had you in my buddies as sylvander, no capital S."
Hmm, strange; I'm sure I typed my user display name with a capital S...
Always do.
Perhaps the server auto-eliminates all upper-case characters by changing them to lower-case.
@smokey01
1. Got your PM including the fixed version of my pjsua.cfg file I sent you just 2 hours before.
2.
(A) Deleted my copy and put your copy in it's place, then ran PSIP, and...
IT WORKS! 
(B) I have 6 distinguished Puppy buddies listed in the buddy-pane, plus me.
I'm the only one identified as online at this time [15:18 Europe/London time].
3. Tried "IPTEL->Music test call" [good music], heard on both my headset and speakers at the same time [I'm using a cable-splitter to feed both at the same time].
4. Need some program or feature of PSIP for testing each of my 2 microphones [one on the headset, the other USB freestanding desktop mic]...
(a) Need it to allow me to choose which to enable and/or test. [Skype does this methinks]
And...
(b) Would be nice if it would display a REAL graph or meter that indicates the REAL signal stregth being detected coming from the chosen mic.
I've seen this when doing this job with my mic in Windows.
(c) Tried using "IPTEL->Echo test call", but heard only [very faint clicks at what may have been the start and finish, and] silence.
1. Got your PM including the fixed version of my pjsua.cfg file I sent you just 2 hours before.
2.
(A) Deleted my copy and put your copy in it's place, then ran PSIP, and...
IT WORKS!
(B) I have 6 distinguished Puppy buddies listed in the buddy-pane, plus me.
I'm the only one identified as online at this time [15:18 Europe/London time].
3. Tried "IPTEL->Music test call" [good music], heard on both my headset and speakers at the same time [I'm using a cable-splitter to feed both at the same time].
4. Need some program or feature of PSIP for testing each of my 2 microphones [one on the headset, the other USB freestanding desktop mic]...
(a) Need it to allow me to choose which to enable and/or test. [Skype does this methinks]
And...
(b) Would be nice if it would display a REAL graph or meter that indicates the REAL signal stregth being detected coming from the chosen mic.
I've seen this when doing this job with my mic in Windows.
(c) Tried using "IPTEL->Echo test call", but heard only [very faint clicks at what may have been the start and finish, and] silence.
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Grant has found that the alpha of Pjsua (our engine) contains video support6. "We are looking into video, lobster is doing that."
SUPERB!
This looks like it's going to be all I could hope for.
Anyone feel like compiling and we can test on Slacko?
http://trac.pjsip.org/repos/wiki/Video_Users_Guide
We may have to release two versions if modem audio support is compromised or the alpha build is unstable . . .
I tried to set up ipad2 to Puppy call no luck so far - next gonna try with Android again . . .
PSIP2 once set up seems OK
Grants help documentation is now updated and comprehensive
http://www.smokey01.com/help/psip/psip.html
Recording and Playback can be a problem but it's not usually attributed to Psip, more likely your hardware. Sometimes it can be difficult to sort out. Persevere with mhwaveedit. If you can record and play back files with it then Psip should work.Sylvander wrote:@smokey01
1. Got your PM including the fixed version of my pjsua.cfg file I sent you just 2 hours before. Excellent
2.
(A) Deleted my copy and put your copy in it's place, then ran PSIP, and...
IT WORKS!
(B) I have 6 distinguished Puppy buddies listed in the buddy-pane, plus me.
I'm the only one identified as online at this time [15:18 Europe/London time].Probably no one else was online
3. Tried "IPTEL->Music test call" [good music], heard on both my headset and speakers at the same time [I'm using a cable-splitter to feed both at the same time].
4. Need some program or feature of PSIP for testing each of my 2 microphones [one on the headset, the other USB freestanding desktop mic]...
(a) Need it to allow me to choose which to enable and/or test. [Skype does this methinks]Have you tried the in built voice test ?
And...
(b) Would be nice if it would display a REAL graph or meter that indicates the REAL signal stregth being detected coming from the chosen mic.
I've seen this when doing this job with my mic in Windows.Use mhwaveedit, it has this feature and works well. You could try my little SVR that I posted in this forum
(c) Tried using "IPTEL->Echo test call", but heard only [very faint clicks at what may have been the start and finish, and] silence.
At least you are still heading in the right direction, forward.
lobster it may be better to continue this development as Psip rather than Psip2 as this may become confusing when and if we make traction with Pjsua2. I think Psip=pjsua and Psip2=Pjsua2 would better.Lobster wrote:Grant has found that the alpha of Pjsua (our engine) contains video support6. "We are looking into video, lobster is doing that."
SUPERB!
This looks like it's going to be all I could hope for.
Anyone feel like compiling and we can test on Slacko?
http://trac.pjsip.org/repos/wiki/Video_Users_Guide
We may have to release two versions if modem audio support is compromised or the alpha build is unstable . . .
I tried to set up ipad2 to Puppy call no luck so far - next gonna try with Android again . . .
PSIP2 once set up seems OK
Grants help documentation is now updated and comprehensive
http://www.smokey01.com/help/psip/psip.html
What do you think?
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pemasu, you might need to do it like this:pemasu wrote:I have got those also. I have launched psip many times from console just to see messages. But....if I try to kill leftover processes there arent any. If I use killall pjsua in console it hasnt ever found processes to kill.
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pidof pjsua && killall pjsua || pjsuaThis was going to be my next attempt at ensuring pjsua is closed properly.
Let me know if it works.
I'm off to work.
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We have to know what we are talking aboutlobster it may be better to continue this development as Psip rather than Psip2 as this may become confusing when and if we make traction with Pjsua2. I think Psip=pjsua and Psip2=Pjsua2 would better.
What do you think?
and what end users see
For Final release Slacko menu
and eventually woof. Psip Puppy Phone
We do indeed use Psip to refer to the updates
and just call it PsIp even when running on a compiled for 64 bit version
and using the latest GUI
Psip2=Pjsua2, referring to a video enabled compile of the alpha Pjsua2 makes sense.
Alpha of Pjsua2 (for compiling please) here:
http://www.pjsip.org/download.htm