Slacko B2

[MinHundHettePerro]

Hello !

Just a report from a Brookdale (rev3) machine ....

There were these rectangular caleidoscopic patches if I on first boot and first restart of X (after personalising the settings) didn't move the mouse - and this is not material for The journal of Irrepeatable Results, I performed the fresh boot drill over and over and ... .

Anyway, tricking my way past this initial obstacle, making a savefile, rebooting and instructing the bootmanager to load the devx - upon next boot the puppeee-blue jwm-theme played tricks on me (yes, confirmed by repetitive experimentation) - Inactive foreground got set the same as Inactive background (quite interesting effect, really ).


Well, I couldn't leave it with that, tried a new approach - set i915.modeset=1 on the kernel line, after which I cannot, in any way, provoke the colourful patches again .

Hope this, as it looks, is the end to my i82845 Brookdale (rev3)-intel/i915 saga


By the way, .... vesa has always been acting up ..... (but, that's with most, if not all, of the recent pups I've tried on this machine ........... so no fret ....... ).

Cheers / MHHP

[Sage]

Fantastical - everything works first time. Got a FULL install. Would be even better if that old EudoraOSE .pet would work!

[Béèm]

network connection issue
jim3630,
In all the spup's (B2 not yet installed) I have the issue of the carrier lost also. Sometimes the SNS works better, sometimes the network wizard.
I stopped reporting it.
My network device is the IPW2100 so nothing to do with broadcom.

Beem that's good to know. Something changed in 264 or 266 that just before 528 with my wl.ko went from requiring Frisbee to make the conncetion with SNS and network wizard. rerwin's work made the difference I believe but no one ever mentioned why sns and nw started working so well.

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today still don't require frisbee in 528 or 529

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thought the improvement in sns and cw performance in 528 would pass to their use in next disto. since not is why expect it's rerwin's work.

You're right about Lucid. I have the same experience.

[JonT]

01micko, saw the note about flloopfix on the first note for synaptics touchpads but (sorry) didn't catch the need to manually run it. I now have run it (need to run flsynclient first to create .flsynclient). For me, congratulations, you have fixed the touchpad! Curious as to when you sleep.

My Inspiron 1100 also has Brookdale (rev 03) graphics. (Shouldn't we get a group discount for pain and suffering?) I have not yet had the graphics problems that DaveS and MHHP have found, just the 50% failing to boot that is the kernel's/X's fault, not yours. I will try the i915.modeset per MHHP and and collect data to compare boot successes over the next few days.

[James C]

Fresh manual frugal install on the Athlon XP box.Everything working and no problems so far.


VIDEO REPORT: Slacko Puppy, version 4.99.4

Chip description:
oem: NVidia
product: NV18 () Board Chip Rev A2

Driver used by Xorg:
nvidia

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: " 1440x900 " Depth: Depth 24

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video

# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
4000 frames in 5.0 seconds = 799.990 FPS
3317 frames in 5.0 seconds = 663.365 FPS
3388 frames in 5.0 seconds = 677.581 FPS
3409 frames in 5.0 seconds = 681.695 FPS
3380 frames in 5.0 seconds = 675.902 FPS

[Béèm]

Installed B2 usual Lin'N'Win FRUGAL
Activated my application environment and all seems to work.

[zigbert]

First glance

- Slickpet: Some fun-sfs requires openGL, but there is no link to install this
- Pburn: Icons missing in the menu - I plan a fix.
- Pfilesearch: Buggy fileselect widget, and should be updated to 1.25
- Pbackup: Buggy fileselect widget, and should be updated to 3.1.9
- Pmirror: Buggy fileselect widget, and should be updated to 0.5-1

This was all I could find to blame. - Not much.....


Sigmund

[MinHundHettePerro]

Hello !

My "install-SM-langpacks-script" didn't work - there were no langpacks for SM-2.3, - revoked in favour of 2.3.2.

Slacko's SM-2.3 un-updatable to 2.3.2 .

Anyway, installed SM-2.3.2 - then ran seamonkey --version, which reports ..... 2.3.1 , so probably not entirely slacko's fault , guess SM dev's were panicky, and releasing updates panicly, due to the recently reported "fraudulent SSL certificate issuance".

Otherwise working nicely
Cheers / MHHP

[Jasper]

Hi 01Micko et al,

My Slacko 4.99.4 uses the multi-session CD/DVD option in conjunction with a USB stick (to which I save data in real time).

It is already working perfectly and is fit for comprehensive and immediate use should my ancient internal hard drive, with my trusty Lupu 5.10, fail.

I very much like the speed and ease of use of the SeaMonkey browser and email and the quick and effective on-the-fly sfs loader/unloader.

In case it may be worth mentioning, NicoEdit seems to appear under both the Utility and the Document headings in the Main Menu.

My regards and thanks

PS I have some 600 MB of RAM which enabled me to install Wine and a SeaMonkey upgrade plus six small pets, but I don't envisage any problems because I shall avoid saving much more to the CD/DVD as I am very close to my "RAM full" limit. I suspect, but I do not know that it may be necessary to have at least 512 MB RAM to run a successful multi-session CD/DVD even using tricks.

[Lobster]

Nooby in Sweden (possibly) says:

Edit Now I am in an upgraded version from 499-1 to 499-4 instead telling it to upgrade.

It is worth on first trying a beta to boot up with
'puppy pfix=ram'
this will give you a pristine beta
and then try an upgrade . . .
Also try and slap yourself with a halibut (or other large fish)
to simulate the effect of some feedback on developers
. . . well it is what I do . . .
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/NoobHelp
All feedback is useful, which is more than can be said for the halibut slap . . .

Jasper in England says:

I very much like the speed and ease of use of the SeaMonkey browser and email and the quick and effective on-the-fly sfs loader/unloader.

Me too.
I have recently been making use of the composer component to edit HTML.
In Lucid I tended to download Firefox
but in Slacko am content to use the default Seamonkey
The on the fly SFS loader (Menu / Setup /Setup)
I used to install GoogleEarth SFS which requires the ATI driver in Slickpet

B2 Working OK for me, so far

[sszindian]

Bata 2

Although not extensively tested as yet,

Previous problem with bata-1 where my screen resoulation of 1400x900 wouldn't configure properly and top icons were half-hidden off-screen is fixed with Bata-2 but icons now seem to have an ever-so-slight oblong to them, liveable though!

Bata-2 graphic-display (both text and graphics) appear 'Fuzzy and very Light' (very hard to spend any time trying to read) compared to the old original Spup's which were crystal clear and much darker.

Tried several configurations with fonts especially and improved reading somewhat but it isn't what it should be by any means!

More later as we test .....

>>>---Indian------>

[sfoster]

I just wanted to report that this Puppy solved my Xorg issues! I have restarted X twice on my Dell D610... no issues!In fact, I haven't seen any problems yet. I also forgot to mention last time that the previous beta was the first release of puppy where DVD menus worked for me in Gnome-Mplayer. Still working great in this release too!
--S

[Jim1911]

Hi 01micko,

Great! Frugal installation working great on two computers. Both booted flawlessly, one with Nvidia graphics, the other with ATI. Everything checked works. Didn't bother with Abiword since I always use OOO or LibreOffice. The Dell with ATI card uses wireless and it connected fine to internet. In fact, I'm posting from it. I really like your new icon set.

I did install my usual software and it all worked properly, including your Nvidia 280.13 pet.

My only disappointment is peasyscan, which works, however, I prefer gimp with xsane. Using ppm, I was unable to get it to work from the slackware repo.

Cheers,
Jim

[rcrsn51]

I tried to compile some packages, but the devx_slacko_4.99.4.sfs seems to be missing some things, like libpng and gtk+.

[James C]

Did another manual frugal install on the old P3 test box...... all looking good so far.

[majorfoo]

full install of slacko B2 on ext4 partition

auto connect to internet ok
sound ok
xorg to desktop 1024x768 ok
firewallstate ok

everything looking good

majorfoo

[rcrsn51]

I prefer gimp with xsane. Using ppm, I was unable to get it to work from the slackware repo.

I found an Xsane package that had been compiled against Gimp. But it also needed libnetsnmp and libv4l. I tracked those down and it worked.

[Icyos]

I prefer gimp with xsane. Using ppm, I was unable to get it to work from the slackware repo.

I found an Xsane package that had been compiled against Gimp. But it also needed libnetsnmp and libv4l. I tracked those down and it worked.

Yes but the question is should you have to? On a full release all major basic software should work out the box, if you provide seamonkey as the web browser then Flash & Java should be pre installed?

See what I am saying

I hope we can move towards this as a release otherwise what is being released is just a bare bones operating system in which some software will work and some will not. If we want the masses to use Puppy then please consider this, if not please ignore me

[01micko]

rcrsn51, Jim1911, et al.. Xsane will be included in the final. . insane of me to leave out

majorfoo.. glad it works for you

James C.. thanks as always for report.. when am I going to break your stuff? [ ]

sfoster.. thamk Kevin DeKorte (gnome-mplayer lead developer) for the DVD menu stuff.. he listens to our bug reports

sszindian.. thanks for being a faithful tester.. may I ask you to run the typical graphics test I ask all users to run? ..

Code: Select all

lspci -nn|grep -i vga

.. just to get an idea of your graphics chip

Lobster.. I have some Q's for you.. more in PM

Jasper.. thanks for positive feedback, anything bad be sure to report

MHHP.. FYI seamonkey-2..3 is compiled by me, for size as you may have guessed, no updates and such are guaranteed to work (says so on moz site). Wrong IMO, why shouldn't lang packs work? ..anyways.. lets hope SM get it together! (in one way or another )
Also.. about Bro(k)ok(en)dale [ ].. I didn't test mine yet but I bet it's a mixed bag.. interestingly.. i915 modeset=1 should be the default! (yep, just checked /etc/modprobe.d/i915.conf). I better test mine eh? (though on reading thru I think JonT's is ok.. .. should I give up? ..or blame the driver.. sheesh.. I guess I recompile i915!)

zigbert.. hmm.. yes, perhaps the description should say where you get what you need for those offending sfs.. good point! rest is academic, thanks.

JonT.. Yay!.. some silly bit of code actually worked (re flloopfix).. can't wait til I hear DaveS report on that one! (should work )

Béèm, first, I have recompiled a dozen times dhcpcd.. I haven't a problem with stable connection, though in lupu from time to time I did .. (I do that much dev/testing it's difficult to pinpoint exactly which version I had problems with in Lupu). Please, do not think issues get ignored (I bet don570 thinks I am ignoring his sound issue from 312.37.. .. no I have an idea about that..). Please keep reporting issues, no matter how trivial they seem.

jim3630.. I will report to Barry, SNS is his app and he can see the diag, else I'll try to fix it myself. While Frisbee is nice I can't fix it, I haven't the time, and not being a default app (my choice, for better or worse) then something should be working for you and other victims of Broadcom. I hear you. (rerwin? little help? )

Sage.. Fantastical? Surely thou jest!

Jades.. little help needed on the HP printer issue.. TIA

Brown Mouse.. it is intentional to leave Xorgwizard in.. but may be reverted.. the reason it was put back in was for synaptics touchpads.. but I may have found a way to avoid that issue.. we'll see. Sorry about the nvidia flash issue (tho you said nothing).. it's out of my hands!

ah nooby, our perennial noob! It is the intention to offer Openbox and FBpanel as quick alternatives to JWM which I think is your issue with your screen resolution. DaveS has made some nice packages, I have been too lazy/busy to upload and include to PPM as yet. I'll let you know by PM when it's done.

DaveS.. that bloody xcompmgr issue!!! Is your HW on the blink? No one else reports it (I saw it when xcb was broke, but then was fixed) , however, perhaps no one else uses it! Please work with me on this one.

All else, there is a pet in PPM that allows transparency called "xcompmgr_startup". Try it, report success, failure, or odd behaviour.

lcyos.. I am quotimg you here.. "On a full release all major basic software should work out the box, if you provide seamonkey as the web browser then Flash & Java should be pre installed?

....Ok.. why? Flash is proprietary, crap and designed for Windows ..and not necessary. Java is increasingly becoming bloated and and owned by a company not interested in open source ..[Oracle]. Rebuttal?

Cheers everybody,






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[DaveS]

Oh Bl*dy 'Ell.... gparted works Messed around trying to get that to work in Spup1 for ages... then something reported trouble was a kernel issue