Slacko Beta 1

[01micko]

yahoo

I am in

I got in by using xvesa instead of xorg with the vesa driver (even though that wouldnt work yesterday?? )

will play streamed video (flash) fullscreen at 480p no problem (starts to split/stutter at higher resolutions)

got the sound working by using playdayz's sound card wizard (had to choose the analog option), but it only has the master channel in alsamixer and the volume control in the taskbar does not work, so I am having to adjust the volume using alsamixer and the keyboard sound control does not work either. (it did with windoze 7 before I binned it)

is there a config file that could be edited to link the taskbar volume control to the master channel?

thanks for all the help
stripe

Congratulations Stripe!

Now as for sound if you right click the retrovol icon in the tray hopefully you can play with the settings and get the volume icon to work as expected. The config file is at $HOME/.retrovolrc.

I still haven't done the latest AMD video driver yet, later today. Apparently (according to Raffy) it has support for your video card.

Cheers!

[Stripe]

forgot to mention the wireless connected straight away with the simple network setup, and everything else seems to work out of the box.

and a big thank you to raffy as well

cheers
stripe

[bigpup]

Maybe most but certainly not all. Just put a new mobo,with onboard Nvidia graphics,on my old AMD dual-core box about a month ago and Vesa mostly just refuses to start X or if it starts X it'll freeze the computer solid before I can get a Nvidia driver installed.

Works fine with the "nouveau" driver ootb so I've been running FatDog. Smile

Look what Nvidia support says about Linux.

"Our advice to owners of NVIDIA GPUs running Linux is to use the VESA X driver from the time of Linux distribution installation until they can download and install the NVIDIA Linux driver from their distribution repositories or from nvidia.com."

Are you saying Vesa does not work on this motherboard Nvidia integrated graphics using Slacko Beta1?

[01micko]

Works fine with the "nouveau" driver ootb so I've been running FatDog.

Part of the reason nouveau is removed is your reports James! It's in PPM .

Look what Nvidia support says about Linux.

"Our advice to owners of NVIDIA GPUs running Linux is to use the VESA X driver from the time of Linux distribution installation until they can download and install the NVIDIA Linux driver from their distribution repositories or from nvidia.com."

Typical. ... "nv" and "nouveau" are the enemy!

[James C]

Maybe most but certainly not all. Just put a new mobo,with onboard Nvidia graphics,on my old AMD dual-core box about a month ago and Vesa mostly just refuses to start X or if it starts X it'll freeze the computer solid before I can get a Nvidia driver installed.

Works fine with the "nouveau" driver ootb so I've been running FatDog. Smile

Look what Nvidia support says about Linux.

"Our advice to owners of NVIDIA GPUs running Linux is to use the VESA X driver from the time of Linux distribution installation until they can download and install the NVIDIA Linux driver from their distribution repositories or from nvidia.com."

Are you saying Vesa does not work on this motherboard Nvidia integrated graphics using Slacko Beta1?

Vesa does not work in any Puppy (lucid and pemasu's work in particular)on that mobo.Vesa might start X or it might not.If X does start the computer will generally freeze up fairly quickly.
Luckily, Slacko and Drake Pup default to the 'nv" driver which works well enough.

[James C]

Works fine with the "nouveau" driver ootb so I've been running FatDog.

Part of the reason nouveau is removed is your reports James! It's in PPM .

Only hardware I have that needs nouveau. One mobo out of a bunch.

Look what Nvidia support says about Linux.

"Our advice to owners of NVIDIA GPUs running Linux is to use the VESA X driver from the time of Linux distribution installation until they can download and install the NVIDIA Linux driver from their distribution repositories or from nvidia.com."

Typical. ... "nv" and "nouveau" are the enemy!

May just start using Intel graphics......

[nooby]

oooh it is that bad then. Whoah or what to say?

"Our advice to owners of NVIDIA GPUs running Linux is to use the VESA X driver from the time of Linux distribution installation until they can download and install the NVIDIA Linux driver from their distribution repositories or from nvidia.com."

Hahah how do I know if I have it? I guess my HP/Compaq maybe make use of it? But my Acer is all Intel graphic? But problematic nevertheless.

Drivers is da shit or what them say. My body tells me to stop doing more testing I get too sad when I fail to get all the details.

Are there none else that do tests that have my gear?

Acer Netbook D250 screen 10" with Intel Atom single core CPU N270
and if you want it I can start up an Acer D255 screen 10" with Intel Atom single core CPU N450 if I remember but that fan is to onoisy so I have that computer as one to use in town on hotspots so it has no personal things on it. That way I hope to keep my main computer free from virus.

So what kind of tests do you need to be done on Slacko?

[01micko]

rodin.s

I have been playing with your app, cool.. I'll put it in.. but I think we need to elaborate on it a little

Cheers

[01micko]

rodin.s ...Your little app broke my keyboard! Oh well, I'll put it in PPM.

Stripe and Raffy.. I'm uploading the latest ATI/AMD/radeon pet right now.. (check ibiblio, pet_packages-slacko). It actually fixes a little annoying bug for me.

I was hoping to release Slacko beta 2 but that will have to wait until tomorrow. I have found bugs using the old gtkdialog! It's enough to p*ss a bloke off! The "install" icon on the desktop is broken.. call it with new gtkdialog and all is well.. go figure? (I think it's the Moose on the Loose bugfix for stdin ). We will have only one gtkdialog exec in Slacko, we have a few weeks to fix anything that's broken.. it was kind of the point of getting rid of gtkdialog2!

Also Barry has changed a lot in woof ..so my head is spinning.. starting to settle now.. be patient guys!

Cheers

[DaveS]

It's enough to p*ss a bloke off!

Cheers

LOL!

[rodin.s]

rodin.s ...Your little app broke my keyboard!

All you have to do - uninstall the package and run xorgwizard again.

[Stripe]

hi all

mick thanks for the driver, will download and try it now

please take it easy and try to not get to stressed out ,

don

[01micko]

Hi Stripe .. let us know how you get on.. when I installed and did "xwin" I got blk-sod! Hard reboot and it was ok.. therefore I now instruct in the pinstall.sh to reboot at the commandline, straight after you run "aticonfig --initial". I will write a little proggy in dialog to automate this somewhat, for those too eager to write stuff down!

BTW, no stress .. if B2 isn't out today it will be one day (the little "p*ssed off" thing was a friendly dig at Barry, no malice intended, see gtkdialog cutting edge forum for the gist of it)

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This is just a note to self really as I want this recorded for future reference.

The init script is optimised such that usb-storage is compiled into the kernel. 2.6.37.6 that has been shipping with Slacko alphas and beta1 has not got this feature, usb-storage is a module that gets loaded. So far this has still been working great, but in my pre-beta2 testing I am getting a 10 second wait for usb-storage to load. Intriguing. Naturally I thought something may have been changed in the init script so I did a diff bettween B1 init and B2-pre1 init, identical, that is no diff! The key I think is in that I built B2-pre1 with no z_drv. Why would this make a difference? I don't know! But soon I'll do a B2-pre2 build with a z_drv to see if that is actually the issue.. I can't see it being anything else.

[MinHundHettePerro]

(the little "p*ssed off" thing was a friendly dig at ...

Just anocdotal to the p***ed off statements (I learnt the hard way, but probably learnt somethin' ).

For the past few days I've been working on a rather large gtkdialog application in slacko-499.1. And I banged my head on my monitor over not getting why some icons were amiss in the menu. Found the correct syntax out by trial and error (took a long time).
Just imagine how p***ed off I was with myself for not reading the gtkdialog dev-thread, where the correct syntax was just explained, before going on this bang-head-trial-and-err bash .

Cheers /MHHP

[Stripe]

hi all

a slight problem, when the pet was installed and rebooted (no problem) the ati control center tried to alter the view of streamed video (removing black lines at top and bottom of screen) causing tearing of the video (even when played minimised in the browser). i tried all of the settings in the control center to no avail.

it could have been maxing the cpu's out as well (using Pwidgets so hardly sientific) but the frequency of the c-50 dual core chip is only 1000mhz

solution: exited to prompt and ran xorgwizard choosing the fglrx driver

rebooted and the video problems were gone (bloody flash)

ran lspci -v in terminal and found that the video drivers being used were:

kernel driver in use: fglrx_pci
kernel modules: fglrx

now if you try to run the ati control centre it gives an error message that the amd graphics driver is not installed or not working properly. but we know the driver is installed

video quality is now improved and I can live without the ati control centre.

hope this helps
stripe

I have been watching the gtkdialog thread and know what you are on about.

[01micko]

I finally got round to compiling nvidia-280.. will be available in B2 (impatients can get it now at ibilio, pet_packages-slacko)

Man have I found some bugs! No lsmod!!! That may have caused the slow usb loading. Understandable though.. this version of Woof has had the biggest overhaul since Barry started Woof in late 2008 early 2009.

I'm going to get beta2 out the door soon, there are some things that aren't fixed, but I want a cross section of what is fixed for others and what isn't. The goal posts have shifted, so things like synaptics and PPPoE will be dealt with slightly differently (fingers crossed the bugs magically disappear..... .. who am I kidding?)

Overall I think it's looking pretty good. Xcb is fixed, the new Slacko artwork is in, some changes to jwm themes, gtk-theming, icons. Same wall tho ... (hehe.. gives me an idea actually ). Still have the JWM pixman bug... does that worry anyone apart from Sigmund?

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EDIT:
Ah.. my dear old friend synaptics... um comment all the settings in your xorg.conf?

Can some of you Lappy fellows(or Ladies) test that theory? Works on my son's. His is "synaptics" but there are Elantch and Alps (I think my EEE is Elantech )

BEFORE

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Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier "Synaptics Mouse"
	Driver "synaptics"
	Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
	Option "Protocol" "auto-dev"
        Option "LeftEdge" "60"
        Option "RightEdge" "1070"
        Option "TopEdge" "90"
        Option "BottomEdge" "680"
        Option "Emulate3Buttons" "on"
        Option "MaxTapTime" "180"
        Option "MaxTapMove" "59"
        Option "VertScrollDelta" "20"
        Option "MinSpeed" "0.75"
        Option "MaxSpeed" "1.00"
        Option "AccelFactor" "0.16"
        Option "SHMConfig" "on"
        Option "VertEdgeScroll" "on"
        Option "TapButton1" "1"
EndSection

AFTER

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Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier "Synaptics Mouse"
	Driver "synaptics"
	Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
	Option "Protocol" "auto-dev"
        #Option "LeftEdge" "60"
        #Option "RightEdge" "1070"
        #Option "TopEdge" "90"
        #Option "BottomEdge" "680"
        #Option "Emulate3Buttons" "on"
        #Option "MaxTapTime" "180"
        #Option "MaxTapMove" "59"
        #Option "VertScrollDelta" "20"
        #Option "MinSpeed" "0.75"
        #Option "MaxSpeed" "1.00"
        #Option "AccelFactor" "0.16"
        #Option "SHMConfig" "on"
        #Option "VertEdgeScroll" "on"
        #Option "TapButton1" "1"
EndSection

EDIT: NO... it breaks flsynclient

[Stripe]

hi all

got my volume icon working by editing the root/.retrovolrc file inside the sfs as the one on the desktop would not save any changes

guess who forgot to check if it was write enabled

will try that now

stripe

[01micko]

Oh dear MMHP! [ ]

But now it's your turn to laugh... I have been banging my head for a couple of hours now why my 2 intel lappies (eee and HP) weren't using the xorg i915 driver.. ugh.. Turns out that Barry's new woof feature (at my request ) for enabling or disabling KMS is busted! . Once I made the file i915.conf in /etc/modprobe.d/ I could use the intel driver

I have a really, really gross work around for touch pads.. but as I said it breaks flsynclient. I may have to use it though as it does work. It puts the synaptics stuff in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/synaptics.conf and then that overrides the default rubbish in xorg.conf. For some reason the $HOME/.flSynclient file seems not to be read .. unless you comment that stuff (re earlier post). This wont be fixed for beta2, I'll post the work-around though for those who need it. I'm going to upload B2 soon, now I got the real showstoppers out the way.

EDIT: just fixed the 3builddistro bug for KMS.... um missing "$"

[charlie6]

Hi mick,
just a reminder: did not found the gv script in slacko beta1
(see post in spup 312.37 thread http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 8ed0ea2320 )

Slacko beta1 runs nice on:
- pc with intel PIV Fuji-Siemens with 82845G Brookdale (TFT or CRT screen - happened just once: got a stripped display together with menu text missing using a "samsung syncmaster 913v" upon starting GnomePlayer....could not reproduce it afterwards...)
- pc with intel PIII compaq 600MHz with 82815 video chip (rescued from scrap..);
- laptop Medion LT9399 intel PIII 600MHz 192MBRam (owned by december 2000) (boot OK from live-cd; only have to manually set the graphic driver to Siliconmotion and the display resolution); installed on frugal install and works OK).

all the best!
Charlie

[01micko]

Thanks Charlie!

It made it in to beta2

Cheers!