Wary Puppy 5.1.4 - 29 August 2011

Please post any bugs you have found
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#321 Post by BarryK »

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#322 Post by linuxcbon »

Please also check my previous bug reports.
I will test new Wary.

gcmartin

nVidia Report

#323 Post by gcmartin »

@BarryK. You asked for nVidia testing. This is a report honoring your request. It shows the successes and the single failure encountered. And, there is a compressed text file attached showing Hardinfo and RAM usage..

This is a multi-core processor PC with 4GB RAM and 2 LAN adapters used to run Live Media (CD/DVD) testing.
  1. I downloaded and created a LiveCD of the SMP version of 5.1.3.4.
  2. Booted system as pfix=ram
  3. I followed your instructions from your blog on d/l and setup of video driver.
  4. I installed TaZOC upgraded "Report-Video-GLX" PET to provide you better information regarding video.
  5. The driver loaded fine, but the XORG upgrade recommendation DID NOT meet the same success. It failed (see screenshots below)
  6. This distro overcomes the hostname problem on initial boot. But,
    There still remains an issue with changing hostname after sstem desktop start; as, all fields-files do not get updated with using the Linux command to create a new meaningful hostname for the system. And there is no tool (e.g. Shinobar's "Personalize Setting") for handling hostname change after system desktop start.
The syetem is very-very responsive with all applications I launched from the Menu, working.

Hope the reports help
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#324 Post by James C »

Fresh manual frugal install of Wary 514 Final.

Everything correct on initial boot and survived a reboot....sound,internet and display. No download problem with the video upgrade. :)
Installed Htop and Opera 11.50.....no problems.


VIDEO REPORT: Wary Puppy, version 5.1.4

Chip description:
oem: NVidia
product: NV18 () Board Chip Rev A2

Driver used by Xorg:
nv

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video

# glxgears
1180 frames in 5.0 seconds = 235.343 FPS
1240 frames in 5.0 seconds = 247.019 FPS
1220 frames in 5.0 seconds = 243.392 FPS
1220 frames in 5.1 seconds = 240.972 FPS
1160 frames in 5.0 seconds = 231.156 FPS

# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 1034520 364448 670072 0 31516
Swap: 1228932 0 1228932
Total: 2263452 364448 1899004

Really solid release.

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#325 Post by Sage »

LiveCD of the SMP version of 5.1.3.4.
deja vu all over again?! BK has just uploaded 5.1.4 this morning with explanation of video issue. Things (sometimes) move fast around here.

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#326 Post by Sage »

Whoa! couldn't get an Xorg picture on 1024x768/nV6200 on boot up although Ctrl-Alt-Bkspce/xorgwiz enable me to get an 800x600 screen. This is a new 'feature'. No woof-woof, icons askew and (again) no initial set-up panel only the regular general panel. Second attempt to get 800x600/24bit screen gave "Cannot display this video mode" which is, clearly rubbish. Try VESA - crashed, eventually got a soft reset. 754 may be a uniprocessor but hardly 'old'.
Suspending testing here - back to 5.1.4RC uni. This SMP version is unusable. Seems my blog comments were apocryphal. For Wary, tell the four-core kiddies to get lost!

One-more-time! Used VESA on fresh boot to get to an 800x600 screen. Was able to d/l & install both nV files. Ran the Xorg routine - failed. Tweaking is a bridge too far - lost interest already. All this confirms multi-proc is a waste of user time. SW gurus will always get an answer, but the great unwashed will always return to you-know-who. Don't shoot the messenger...

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#327 Post by James C »

Fresh manual frugal install on the old P3 test box.Sound and display correct on boot......had to use SNS for internet connection.Everything persistent.


VIDEO REPORT: Wary Puppy, version 5.1.4

Chip description:
Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 GMCH [Graphics Memory Controller Hub]
Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller]

Driver used by Xorg:
intel

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video

# glxgears
520 frames in 5.0 seconds = 103.959 FPS
520 frames in 5.1 seconds = 102.625 FPS
520 frames in 5.0 seconds = 103.490 FPS
500 frames in 5.0 seconds = 99.015 FPS

-Computer-
Processor : Pentium III (Coppermine)
Memory : 253MB (77MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Mon 29 Aug 2011 03:09:46 AM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa GLX Indirect
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ICH - Intel 82801AA-ICH

-Version-
Kernel : Linux 2.6.32-smp (i686)

# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 253928 249032 4896 0 10776
Swap: 1020088 28672 991416
Total: 1274016 277704 996312
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#328 Post by nooby »

Congratulations, Wary Puppy are so popular that it takes a long long time to download due to server bog down out of demand for it. :)

I am too dense to get this uni thing but I will test both then to find out if them differ on my Atom N270 machine an Acer D250 that have only one core so I use nosmp to get it booted. 98% loaded so soon I will test it. Wish me luck folks. I get back and tell if it survived .
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
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#329 Post by linuxcbon »

fsck: fsck.ntfs: not found
Why are bug reports not being taken seriously ? I am repeating same things again and again. Will stop testing soon.

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#330 Post by nooby »

linuxcbon wrote:
fsck: fsck.ntfs: not found
Why are bug reports not being taken seriously ? I am repeating same things again and again. Will stop testing soon.
Barry take such reports very seriously. You just have to be patient.

Maybe him are working on it and him report when he get success or if he gave up on solving it. Have you given all needed details on your set up and exactly what happens and so on then just feel good about your valued contribution. No need to feel neglected at all :)
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

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#331 Post by nooby »

Test booting frugally on ntfs on internal hdd on Acer D250 10" Netbook.

Flash works on SeaMonkey but despite setting is 1024 x 768 it only show 1024 x 600 on the external screen that I use for my old eyes that don't like the 10" small text.

Same with viewnior it also only show 1024 x 600

all else works good. I tested both the uni and the not uni. Both loaded and booted and looked and behaved the same. I used the nosmp code in kernel line.

here is the pic to show how it looks with 1024 x 600 it leave a huge area unused.

Lupu 513 and 525 and 528 allow me to see the whole resolution 1024 x 768 while Wary Puppy and Slacko seems to have code that is different to Lucid Puppy so Wary and Slacko both only allowing 1024 x 600
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Wary Puppy 5.1.4

#332 Post by Billtoo »

Manual frugal install to emachines D620 laptop.
Used SNS to setup wireless connection.
Sound okay, used video upgrade wizard to download mesa.

Mon 29 Aug 2011 Operating System: Wary Puppy-5.1.4 Linux 2.6.32-smp
5.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS product: RS690 01.00

X Server: Xorg Driver: radeon
X.Org version: 1.3.0
dimensions: 1280x800 pixels (338x211 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
OpenGL version string: 1.4 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.2)

AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 2650e
Core 0: 1595 MHz

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#333 Post by BarryK »

linuxcbon wrote:
fsck: fsck.ntfs: not found
Why are bug reports not being taken seriously ? I am repeating same things again and again. Will stop testing soon.
That is not a bug, Wary does not have such an application.

The 'fsck' utility looks for something named fsck.<fstype> which points to the actual program. However, there is nothing in Wary or any other Puppy that will check or repair an ntfs f.s.

Not that I know of anyway, that is compatible with the call mechanism via fsck. I could be wrong though.

Wary does however have 'ntfsfix', which is a very basic ntfs f.s. repair utility. It does not do a complete repair, only some simple things. It might make the f.s. bootable by Windows and then Windows will do a proper repair.
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#334 Post by linuxcbon »

OK a websearch showed fsck.ntfs doesn't exist, too bad, maybe a link to ntfsfix can solve it ?
I was also refering to previous bugs, like flv not showing, csv, ntfs, keyboard language, menu.lst, hotmail, ext4, empty dirs, hosts.conf, /etc/groups, mouse scroll...

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#335 Post by Aitch »

ntfsfix only flags the drive so windoze will run chkdsk next boot into windoze

ntfsck was under development by Anton Altaparmakov, but seems to have stalled?

http://old.nabble.com/Re%3A-Ntfsprogs-- ... 72855.html

I found ntfsprogs-2.0.0.tar.gz, which may contain ntfsck...but I haven't checked it


http://sourceforge.net/projects/linux-n ... z/download

Barry

Anton's development seems to have been absorbed into Tuxera
I don't know if you can include/update NTFS-3G with ntfsprogs for Wary

http://www.tuxera.com/open-source/relea ... 2011-4-12/

Aitch :)

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#336 Post by roadkill13 »

@linuxcbon

I hope that I can be of some assistance with most of the issues that you have raised. I did not address the file system issue as Aitch has responded to that. Please correct me if I have misunderstood any of your posts.
flv not showing
Are you talking about video thumbnails in ROX?

I know that at one time ROX supported images for video file thumbnails in ROX Filer. I have used ROX as compiled for various linux systems over the years and do not recall ever using one that had that enabled by default.

As such that is not really a bug. It is more of a wish list item isn't it?
csv in gnumeric
Gnumeric does open csv files. Also if you right click on a csv file in Rox Filer a context menu will pop up allowing the user to "set run action". Enter gnumeric prior to the "$@" and gnumeric will open csv files just by clicking on them. This has been a design feature of most puppies that I have ever used.

As such that is not really a bug. It is more of a wish list item (having file association preset) isn't it?

Also there is an application in the "Setup" menu called "default applications chooser".
hotmail
You originally presented this as an XML PARSER error that appears when attempting to open messages downloaded from Hotmail with Seamonkey Mail.

First: So far I have not had any issues with hotmail in Seamonkey Mail.

But, I have seen that xml parser error before. This is not a Puppy Linux issue as it appears in Seamonkey 1.x and 2.x browsers when attempting to load various pages. It may be a problem in other linux browsers as well but I have not checked them. As I recall it is replicated on other linux systems.

Explanation: Many websites are optimized for Internet Explorer. Some of these pages are properly displayed with a current Firefox or Safari browser. However the "sites" are detecting the browsers useragent id.

When certain useragent id's are detected a browser upgrade window may appear prompting the user to upgrade the browser. This happens with Seamonkey 1.x when I attempt to log in at live.com.

NOTE:

I received that same xml parser error in Seamonkey as previously described in this post on certain sites. I found that if I used an useragentswitcher extension (installed by default on Seamonkey in Wary) and changed the useragent I could "spoof" the site causing it to properly render the page in Seamonkey.

Again, this does not appear to be a bug.
grub not creating menu.1st on universal install
I have not tried the universal installer for Wary 5.14 as I downloaded the ISO from Lucid and manually setup a frugal install.

My experience with Puppy and the universal installer is that it will create a file called "newgrub.txt" and place it in /tmp. This can be used for the menu.1st. A dialogue box appears at the end of the process that informs the user of this fact.

Based on my experience I would say that again, this is not a bug. Rather more of a wish list item isn't it?
mouse scroll
This is a design feature of the window manager JWM. Right clicking (or clicking the window icon on left side of title bar) on the title bar of any application will bring up a context menu. You will note that "shade" is an option. If the app window is shaded then "unshade" will be an option.

Again this is a design feature and not a bug.
keyboard language
I know that changes in the layout of puppies that I have used so far cause X to restart. Perhaps it can be done the way you suggest.

But again this is not a bug is it?

Perhaps developers are not responding to your posts because they are busy tracking down and fixing bugs.

There is a thread in the forum about how to give effective but reports. Found here: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=36872

Hope that helps.
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#337 Post by rjbrewer »

Glx gears;
Inspiron 700m single core;

Wary 513: 1240 frames in 5.1 seconds.
Wary 514: 1100 frames in 5.1 seconds.
Wary Uni: 1300 frames in 5.1 seconds.

Inspiron 700m, Pent.M 1.6Ghz, 1Gb ram.
Msi Wind U100, N270 1.6>2.0Ghz, 1.5Gb ram.
Eeepc 8g 701, 900Mhz, 1Gb ram.
Full installs

gcmartin

SMP Wary on a UNI - For observation

#338 Post by gcmartin »

@Barry asked for UNI experiences

Running Live media (LiveCD) WARY 5.1.4 on a UNI. Included is the system report. Seemingly is working without issues for the apps tested. Performance seems same as before.

System P3 384MB RAM, ethenet adapter card, ISA and PCI card slots. HP Pavilion.

Hope this helps
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#339 Post by roadkill13 »

Here is the report from uniprocessor system on 5.14.
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#340 Post by Ray MK »

Hi Barry

HTH - very best regards - Ray
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