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What is the best Puppy Version ever, LOL
2.14x
28%
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2.14x
10%
 10%  [ 4 ]
2.14x
28%
 28%  [ 11 ]
Other: 2.14x only
31%
 31%  [ 12 ]
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ttuuxxx


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PostPosted: Wed 24 Aug 2011, 02:23    Post subject:  
If anyone likes chess I compiled Xboard and fairymax deps on 2.14X.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?mode=attach&id=45106
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ttuuxxx


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PostPosted: Wed 24 Aug 2011, 18:55    Post subject:  
here's a gtk battleship game
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ttuuxxx


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PostPosted: Thu 25 Aug 2011, 01:15    Post subject:  
hi guys I'm working on the next release, it will have a very big update Smile, So it might take a few days. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Aug 2011, 06:03    Post subject:  
ok guys just to spark some interest, The next update will have the latest development gtk2 and latest stable glib installed including 15 libs and other updates. Talking about bleeding edge Smile
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sc0ttman


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PostPosted: Thu 25 Aug 2011, 06:14    Post subject:  
ttuuxxx wrote:
ok guys just to spark some interest, The next update will have the latest development gtk2 and latest stable glib installed including 15 libs and other updates. Talking about bleeding edge Smile

Will this mean that stuff compiled on the next 2.14 will not be compatible with Wary5.1.x? If so, that's shame, I'm sure you'll go on a compiling spree once it's all running nicely Wink

EDIT: I like that chess game BTW
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Aug 2011, 07:37    Post subject:  
sc0ttman wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:
ok guys just to spark some interest, The next update will have the latest development gtk2 and latest stable glib installed including 15 libs and other updates. Talking about bleeding edge Smile

Will this mean that stuff compiled on the next 2.14 will not be compatible with Wary5.1.x? If so, that's shame, I'm sure you'll go on a compiling spree once it's all running nicely Wink

EDIT: I like that chess game BTW


Hi scottman

Well I'm not changing glibc or other deps just gtk and glib and its deps usually are ok to change, The reason why I'm doing this is because new programs request a later version of gtk and when you downgrade the configs, lately you run into a lot of errors that stop you from compiling due to missing newer gtk2 parts, its strange since this gtk is only 2.5yrs old now and now its outdated, even wary's version also is outdated, I was almost ready to add gtk3 to 2.14X due to most newer apps require it, but it had some python deps, which would add a lot of added weight to 2.14X so I reverted to the last gtk2 version, but I do feel That in the near future gtk3 will be more viable, but I'll try to remove the python libs, it was only in the examples where it was looking for it, funny when they first released gtk3 they didn't have python as dep and now they do for examples.
Anyways it bring new life to 2.14X Smile
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MinHundHettePerro


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PostPosted: Thu 25 Aug 2011, 09:17    Post subject:  
MinHundHettePerro wrote:
Aitch wrote:
wuwei

Thanks for the wisdom-seekers link

re: threadget, I was actually referring to ttuuxxx's post

ttuuxxx wrote:
didn't work on 2.14x. this is the error I found
sh-3.00# ThreadGet
sh: line 11: /dev/shm/FORUMEXEC: No such file or directory
chmod: cannot access `/dev/shm/FORUMEXEC': No such file or directory

sh-3.00#
ttuuxxx


This was 30th June, and no response.....and it would still be a mother of an html file, if it was working.... Wink

Aitch Smile
Hello Smile!

On Threadget ...

I seem to recall that I had difficulties using Threadget in some puppy, most likely in 214X. I checked my /usr/bin/ThreadGet-file and see that I've changed three instances of /dev/shm/ to /tmp/, probably since 214X lacks /dev/shm (just from the back of my head, not in 214X atm, so cannot verify).
Anyway, after this modification ThreadGet worked as it should, produced a mammoth file of the 214X-thread Shocked Smile.

hth Smile/ MHHP


Well, did you try it, Aitch?

Otherwise, I petted up ThreadGet with these simple modifications as ThreadGet_214X.pet.
This 301-page thread turns into a 25 MB htm-file, which is a bit tough to open on my machine, though. Smaller number of forum pages opens nicely Smile.

Cheers Smile/ MHHP
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sc0ttman


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PostPosted: Thu 25 Aug 2011, 10:58    Post subject:  
ttuuxxx wrote:
Hi scottman

Well I'm not changing glibc or other deps just gtk and glib and its deps usually are ok to change, The reason why I'm doing this is because new programs request a later version of gtk and when you downgrade the configs, lately you run into a lot of errors that stop you from compiling due to missing newer gtk2 parts, its strange since this gtk is only 2.5yrs old now and now its outdated, even wary's version also is outdated, ....

ttuuxxx

Barry was asking about updating glibc in wary, I didnt post my views, but did think he could so with upgrading GTK.. not but glibc!! Glad to hear yours will remain a binary compatible 'base' for puppy 5 (Cos I've stolen/installed lots of 2.14X apps, all work well) Smile
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sheldonisaac

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PostPosted: Fri 26 Aug 2011, 11:38    Post subject: CPU sensor?  
Hi, I just noticed a CPU temperature program, at

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=57480

I dowloaded and installed it, but it doesn't find any sensors.

Do I need a module for that to load into 2.14X TOP8 ?

When I interrupt booting and look at the BIOS setup pages, it says the CPU is at 50 degrees Celsius.

This is an ASUS P5A with AMD K6-2-450, both from about 1999.

I vaguely recall something about Winbond.
Don't know/recall how to look for it in Windows 98SE.

Many thanks,

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laika


Joined: 15 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Fri 26 Aug 2011, 14:29    Post subject:  
214x-Top8.0 ISO, after burning to CD and upon boot says:
my box wrote:
Unknown keyword in config file.
Could not find kernel image: puppy


Have I made myself a nice new coaster, or can I give it the name of another kernel image at the boot: prompt? It will take input, so maybe another name...

I had no idea all this 2.14X business was going on! Tman of Wary Tiny kindly suggested that I try Classic Pup on an old 475mHz, 128mb RAM laptop that I saved from a trashy demise. Yes, he says, Wary runs on older low-resource machines, but make a swap file and try Classic Pup! So here I am with my question. TIA.
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MinHundHettePerro


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PostPosted: Fri 26 Aug 2011, 17:48    Post subject:  
laika wrote:
214x-Top8.0 ISO, after burning to CD and upon boot says:
my box wrote:
Unknown keyword in config file.
Could not find kernel image: puppy
Hello Smile!
Would this failed-boot msg come from booting from the CD (through BIOS), or from utilising other boot managers/utilities?

Cheers Smile/ MHHP
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laika


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PostPosted: Fri 26 Aug 2011, 18:13    Post subject:  
MinHundHettePerro wrote:
Hello Smile!
Would this failed-boot msg come from booting from the CD (through BIOS)...


Yes, thank you. The old laptop BIOS is set-up to boot from CDROM. Raffy's Safe Pup from 2007 will boot to X from CD, as will a SliTaz 3.0 base {no X). But it choked as described on 214x-Top8.0, which was a good burn as tested on more a recent box.

Is a failure to boot of this type indicative of a certain problem? TIA.
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PostPosted: Fri 26 Aug 2011, 18:36    Post subject:  
laika wrote:
MinHundHettePerro wrote:
Hello Smile!
Would this failed-boot msg come from booting from the CD (through BIOS)...


Yes, thank you. The old laptop BIOS is set-up to boot from CDROM. Raffy's Safe Pup from 2007 will boot to X from CD, as will a SliTaz 3.0 base {no X). But it choked as described on 214x-Top8.0, which was a good burn as tested on more a recent box.

Is a failure to boot of this type indicative of a certain problem? TIA.

Just, never saw this peculiar failure report before.
Perhaps you could boot a working linux system, mount the 214X-top8 CD and check that the isolinux.cfg looks like
Code:
default puppy
display boot.msg
F1 boot.msg
F2 f2
F3 f3
prompt 1
label puppy
kernel vmlinuz
append root=/dev/ram0 initrd=initrd.gz loglevel=3 PMEDIA=idecd max_loop=20
timeout 50
and that
Code:
# ls -al
looks like
Code:
total 127402
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root      2048 2011-06-30 11:42 .
drwxr-xr-x 25 root root      1024 2011-08-27 00:42 ..
-r--r--r--  1 root root      2048 2011-06-30 11:42 boot.cat
-rw-r--r--  1 root root       116 2011-03-24 12:31 boot.msg
-rw-r--r--  1 root root      1277 2011-03-24 12:31 f2
-rw-r--r--  1 root root       777 2011-03-24 12:31 f3
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   1083823 2011-03-24 12:31 initrd.gz
-rw-r--r--  1 root root     10648 2011-03-24 12:31 isolinux.bin
-rw-r--r--  1 root root       177 2011-03-24 12:31 isolinux.cfg
-rw-r--r--  1 root root     13636 2011-03-24 12:31 logo.16
-rwx------  1 root root 107687936 2011-06-30 11:40 pup_214X.sfs
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   1751229 2011-03-24 12:31 vmlinuz
-rwx------  1 root root  19902464 2011-03-24 12:31 zdrv_214X.sfs
and continue from there (could, obviously, be that you have a quirky machine for running 214X, but .....)
Cheers Smile/ MHHP
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laika


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PostPosted: Fri 26 Aug 2011, 23:51    Post subject:  
MHHPThanks! I did look at isolinux.config earlier, and it looked good. And 214x-Top8.0 did boot on another, different box.

MHHP wrote:
(could, obviously, be that you have a quirky machine for running 214X, but .....)


May be... the CD was a successful burn as evidenced by a successful boot on a different machine. Thanks for your interest. I'll report any new developments.
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PostPosted: Mon 29 Aug 2011, 02:21    Post subject: Classic Pup 2.14X -- Updated 2 series  
hi ttuuxxx and everyone

loaded pup214top8 on old compaq 500 mhz. prosser with 300+ ram

harh drive install firefox not home , gone got opra pet .it's on the firefox icon . it's slow but it works .this post is from it. seamonkeys is slitly faster on this box allso easier on cpu I'm new too linux and puppy.Had lindows for a short time {crashed the hard drive } this is what old computers need

thank you ttuuxxx and all
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