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Lobster
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PostPosted: Fri 13 May 2005, 01:36    Post subject:  Puppy 5.3.3 and Puppy School for Beginners
Subject description: Getting started, Learning, Manuals etc
 



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PostPosted: Fri 13 May 2005, 09:09    Post subject:  

Nice post, I'll make it "sticky"

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PostPosted: Mon 15 Aug 2005, 23:12    Post subject:  

Hey

Everything seems to be fine with attachments, I guess it is possible that the topic that the attachment was against may have been deleted ...

Could someone please post the file on this topic ?

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mike


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PostPosted: Wed 17 Aug 2005, 02:53    Post subject: Re: New Pups - Start here  

Lobster wrote:
Shocked Linux and Puppy is an experience. You need to develop experience to make the best use of it.
Try the Rute Guide


lobster, in retrospect i forgot to thank you for this most wonderfull link -

having no real live peers (so to speak) whom I can interract with when it comes to understand the fundamentals of linux, this is almost exacly what I was looking for without knowing it.

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PostPosted: Thu 18 Aug 2005, 10:33    Post subject:  

Questions should be asked in the appropriate forum thread
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Ian
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Nov 2005, 05:36    Post subject: Message for new postings in Beginners  

Here is the link to the subject discussed in the Beginners section regarding people posting queries with no or too little information.

http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.php?p=23664#23664

and here is the relevant posting by me.

Something like:

Welcome to the Puppy Forum Beginners Help, before you post a question here have you tried doing a search of the forum or the Puppy Wiki (URL here) if you cannot find a solution and are posting here try to ensure that you have the following information available.

The make of your machine.
The amount of RAM (memory) installed.
The CPU (processor) speed.
What Hard Drives, CDROMs and DVDs that are installed.
The Partitions, size and type, on any hard drives.
What type of Keyboard & Mouse i.e. Serial, PS/2, USB or other.
Which version of Puppy you are working with.

Also could you describe the problem and any steps you have taken so far.

If you have trouble gathering this information see if you can get a friend to help otherwise include as much information as you can.

These steps are designed to help the people who contribute to this forum help you find a solution to your problem if it is possible, by including as much information as possible it reduces the amount of time that would be taken up by them requesting this data and you replying.

When and if your problem is resolved we would appreciate it if you could edit your original post and add Solved to the heading or at least add a post saying that the problem is fixed.

Thank you for reading this and we hope your problem can be resolved quickly.

Enjoy the Puppy experience.

How does that sound.
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PostPosted: Mon 27 Mar 2006, 10:07    Post subject: Puppy Linux for Beginners  

This link is now in the first posting and is a good start
http://www.pa-mcclamrock.com/getstart.html

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Ruppy

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PostPosted: Tue 19 Jun 2007, 14:06    Post subject: Re: Welcome to Puppy
Subject description: audio welcome, links and getting started
 

Lobster wrote:

Download 4 min welcome audio 'pawedcast'


Is that you talking there?
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LOF


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PostPosted: Wed 20 Jun 2007, 02:18    Post subject: Re: Welcome to Puppy
Subject description: audio welcome, links and getting started
 

Ruppy wrote:
Lobster wrote:

Download 4 min welcome audio 'pawedcast'


Is that you talking there?

The first thing he says is "Hi everyone, Lobster here..."

I think that should answer your question.

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don1500


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PostPosted: Fri 16 Nov 2007, 10:07    Post subject:  

Nice links, Thanks.
I'd also like to thank all the people responsable for Puppy, great distro.
I am new to Linux so you'll be seeing lots of dumb questions for a while. I tried Puppy 2.something and was disappointed with the wireless (or lack of) communication. I went to 3.0.1 and it was there before I even thought about looking for it. Works great, no drop outs, just keeps going. I wouldn't mind a monitor in the system tray, something I could look at and see the signal strength. (Maybe I'll try to write that! Who knows.) Again, thanks for all your work.
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PostPosted: Fri 16 Nov 2007, 12:03    Post subject:  

don1500 wrote:
I wouldn't mind a monitor in the system tray

rutilt
its in the network menu
on the options tab
check "display tray icon" and "start in tray"

to get it to run automatically on boot
make a directory /root/Startup with a capital S
create a symlink in /root/Startup to the rutilt executable using this command in the prompt
Code:
ln -s /usr/local/bin/rutilt /root/Startup/rutilt

right click on the tray icon to restore or minimise

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PostPosted: Sun 18 Nov 2007, 13:33    Post subject:    

Thanks! But you took the fun out of trying to write my first linux program! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat 26 Jan 2008, 10:13    Post subject: 4Min down load pawed cast
Subject description: it want let me open any site or down load
 

Question How can I look at 4min down load for beginer It stop me . I'm stuck with small screen . any anwer
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PostPosted: Sat 16 Feb 2008, 20:38    Post subject:  FOR BEGINNERS - FÜR ANFÄNGER
Subject description: more infos
 

Some further links and informations:

For German speaking:
Für Deutschsprachige:
Hier klicken:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=26418

First: In my eyes Puppy is the fastest desktop linux distribution: It's one of about two mini-ramdisk distributions known to me.
Ramdisk + mini = EXTREMLY FAST! 5-10 times faster then the "normal" big distributions of linux! Boot time too! Check it out if you believe or if you not believe. Wink (speed at 128 MB RAM and 133, 500 or even 1,3 GHz)

Intro into my little guide (not important)

I hope this infos and links make Puppy more easier to you as it is by itself! As much infos you need but as less infos as possible! Smile Thought as a quick & easy guide with direct links and correct and simply handling of installing more programs as in the normal packet manager available. All things are explained almost step-by-step but short, too. For more detailed infos see the forum and the link to the great and pictured handbook at the end of this guide. Have fun with your Puppy and custumize it easily by saving your changes on your cd or dvd!

Direct link to the actual version (3.01, february 2008):
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/puppy-3.01retro-k2.6.18.1-seamonkey.iso

Maybe you need to follow a link to a newer version of Puppy if this text posting is to old. Then try this link:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/

If you have very old hardware (133 or 500 MHz? I don't know) and the first link doesn't really work well with your device then, but only then, try the retro version with an older kernel:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/puppy-3.01retro-k2.6.18.1-seamonkey.iso

Burn the ISO file simply with any burn program on any system - but make sure that you don't burn it as data cd but as "burn ISO file" or "burn image". It's so easy, really!

When starting with Puppy make a backup of your personal file pup_save.2fs from time to time,
especially before doing bigger or more critical program installations (e.g. from PSI oder Gslapt)


Details for installing programs:

Please look for programs in this turn:

1. The normal packet manager on the top of the puppy screen: official, but less programs

2. PSI - Puppy software installer
more of luxorious programs, small, from users

Install it by downloading and installing step by step three things. you only have to download and click on each file.

Requirements:
http://puppyfiles.org/dotpupsde/dotpups/System_Utilities/getdir.pup
http://puppyfiles.org/dotpupsde/dotpups/System_Utilities/MU-Toolbox/Gtklist04MU.pup

The program itself:
http://puppyfiles.org/dotpupsde/puppy3/dotpups/System_Utilities/Puppy-Software-Installer.pup

Alternatively you can install most of this programs offered from the PSI installer by installing them manually from this great and well arranged site:
http://www.dotpups.de/dotpups/

3. Almost all the Slackware Linux repository: Very many programs but even small programs need very much download volume, disk and RAM space. Maybe problems with program dependencies, e.g. a program needs a never library but puppy has installed and needs an older one.
http://www.dotpups.de/dotpups/System_Utilities/gslapt_puppy-0.3.18.pet

It provides Gslapt (very simple, like Synaptic) and slapt-get (apt-get program for Slackware, more control over installation and dependencies but console-tool)

First step after installing: start Gslapt and
chance the slackware repository to the new correct download link:
http://repository.slacky.eu/slackware-12.0/

A little KDE (50 MB with K3b burn tool and some network tools):

http://www.puppylinux.ca/members/windowmanagers/kde357.sfs
It's very slow on old computers!
You have to copy it to your other puppy files and after booting you have to click on menu - utilities - boot manager - then choose this SFS-File and make sure that it will really be loaded by (un-?)checking the box below.

You can install gnome and KDE programs without having installed Gnome or KDE. But it will require many dependencies if you don't use the installing method 1 or 2 above - Glapt/Slackware (3.) is not recommended if there are your seached programs in 1 or 2.

Big beginners question for this great feature:
How can I save all my settings, additional programs and personal data on a Puppy cd or dvd?

Experimental! Save always your data on another storage device, too!

1. Boot your Puppy.

2. Look on your devices button on the Puppy screen for your downloaded ISO-File. I don't want to explain again how to create a ISO if you don't have one or have still deleted it. So, please only in that case, download it again from here:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/puppy-3.01retro-k2.6.18.1-seamonkey.iso
Maybe you need to follow a link to a newer version of Puppy if this text posting is to old. Then try this link:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/
Maybe it is a new Puppy version available so you should download a new ISO anyway.

3. It is recommended to use a CD-R or a DVD-R but not DVD+R or a RW. Put it into the burn drive now.

4. Click menu - multimedia - burn2iso and select your Puppy iso file. Then click NOT normal but MULTI for a multisession cd or dvd which we need.

5. Ready! When you shutdown Puppy regulary by clicking on menu - logout - shutdown then Puppy will ask you for "Save to CD". Make sure that your new burned CD/DVD is put on your burn drive and then press Enter on "Save to CD" and wait until Puppy has finished.

6. Now you can boot everytime with this new cd and at the end of the Puppy session you can save all your data and settings onto it like described in 5. One touch of a button. Smile

More Questions?
Take a little look at the great handbook with much infos and very many step-by-step pictures!
http://www.puppy-linux.info/en/manual/puppy301/main.html

Enjoy your Puppy and good work with it!
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PostPosted: Thu 27 Nov 2008, 08:53    Post subject:  

Thanks for this all information. I am new to this forum as well to the Puppy. Just studied about Puppy and want to install in my laptop. Still dont know how to install, or how to make it dual boot?


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