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#21 Post by majorfoo »

Booted live cd and used xorg-probe - accepted highlighted 1024x768
and desktop appeared. Looks good. Sound works and auto connected to internet using eth0 and dsl.

Tried downloading audacious 2.44 which had following depends
audacious-2.44 plugins
libmcs-0.7.2
libmowglp-0.71
libmtp-1.0.1
libsamplerate-0.17
openssl-solibs-0.98
sdl-1.2.14
wavpak-4.60.1

after downloading this 17mb and installing, was still missing libneon-so-27

Gave up-rebooted to clean desktop and installed audacious 3.0 lucid pet, which works great

next installed roxterm-1.17.1lucid pet and it also works great.

Not sure how many of the pets from lucid are going to work but will keep adding to see what happens.

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#22 Post by aarf »

tested couple of hours opera-next surfing and java chess , no crashes no issues.

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#23 Post by Jim1911 »

Hi 01micko,

Manual frugal installation on an ext4 partition. I refrained from adding any software other than the NVIDIA driver while I checked out the base files. My HP Photosmart 5280 installed fine :lol: and everything appears to be working fine except for glx-gears. This beta distribution appears to be even faster than your last version which surprised me since it uses the same kernel. Now I'll give it a workout by adding my normal software. Thanks for all your hard work.

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#24 Post by rcrsn51 »

nooby wrote:I ran it some 5 times and always failed to do 1024 x 768 only 1024 x 600.
The native resolution of your netbook is 1024x600. Why are you trying to force it to something else?

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#25 Post by playdayz »

installed audacious 3.0 lucid pet, which works great

next installed roxterm-1.17.1lucid pet and it also works great.

Not sure how many of the pets from lucid are going to work but will keep adding to see what happens.
Audacious 3.0.1 is out. I will try to compile it in Slacko and make a pet--when I recover from Lucid 528--maybe by December ;-)
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#26 Post by DaveS »

seem to be having a whole load of problems, many with .pets such as right-click-4.9.4.pet, which worked fine in previous release. Missing icons from the menu too. Maybe my download is poor.
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#27 Post by DaveS »

Try switching icon sets via the desktop menu. Do you then end up with some menu items without icons?
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#28 Post by DaveS »

The pngoverlay thing is not working properly. Mount my Sd card correctly, but clicking the X to unmount it just brings up a rox window for it. I think this is a woof thing though?
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#29 Post by nooby »

rcrsn51 wrote:
nooby wrote:I ran it some 5 times and always failed to do 1024 x 768 only 1024 x 600.
The native resolution of your netbook is 1024x600. Why are you trying to force it to something else?
Yes sorry I should have given the relevant info. I am old have bad eyes and don't want to invest in new Glasses / Specticals so I make use of an external screen that is big but it is 4:3 instead of 16:9 so it makes use of 1024 x 768 while 16:9 works with 1024 x 600 but on the big 4:3 screen the 1024 x 600 leave a huge space unused under everything. Browser pics videos ....

Now 18 out of 20 different Puppies do accept to show 1024 x 768 so only a few fail to do it.

Now I am just one person. There are millions out there with bad eye sight that also reuse old monitors or buy a cheap new LCD screen to help them see text on internet or when they read books or surf.

if it works on the majority of Puppies then it would be consistent to expect it to work on the more "modern" Slacko.

Unless it is incredibly difficult to achieve.

One can at least explain why it fails and the work around that I found. To use an older Spup save file that have 1024 x 768 and upgrade that one to latest Slacko which retain the ability to show 1024 x 768 while a new install fails to do it.

Playdayz told me a trick the other day but it failed on this one. I tried that trick 5 times and never achieved 1024 x 768 until I reused the save file.

Sorry if I come through as annoying. I want Puppy to just work even when the set up is a bit unusual.
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#30 Post by jim3630 »

manual frugal install to ext4. broadcom spup pet installed and able to bring up wl driver. Sns failed to make wifi connection, see below.

Sns also failed when using broadcom wl.ko pet during 262 thru 528 development as reported at that time.

connection wizard incorrectly report success without an established wifi connection and upon rebooting the "saved" setting vanished requiring another setup process resulting in the wizard again erroneously reporting another success.

connection wizard also failed when using broadcom wl.ko pet during 262 thru 528 development as reported at that time.

rebooted installed frisbee which failed to make connection while erroneously reporting it was successful. see attached. Uninstalled frisbee.

rebooted and repeated sns which failed again timming out as did initially. then tried connection wizard again which erroneously reported success.

rebooted finding connection wizard did not save prior setting then frisbee again installed this time did make wifi connection. have not rebooted yet fearing the worst.

Sns failure report.

Information about this interface:
Interface: eth1 Driver: wl Bus: pci MacAddress: AC:81:12:1D:A9:5E
Description: x

STEP1a: ifconfig eth1 up
STEP1b: iwlist eth1 scan
eth1 Scan completed :
Cell 01 - Address: 00:19:E4:4B:D3:19
ESSID:"2WIRE789"
Mode:Managed
Frequency:2.457 GHz (Channel 10)
Quality:4/5 Signal level:-59 dBm Noise level:-98 dBm
Encryption key:on
Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s
11 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s; 24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s
48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
STEP1c: ifconfig eth1 down
STEP2: iwconfig eth1 mode managed
STEP3: iwconfig eth1 channel 10
STEP4: iwconfig eth1 essid "2WIRE789"
STEP5: iwconfig eth1 key restricted 9977453890
STEP5a: ifconfig eth1 up

ERROR, TIMEOUT. Have not got an Access Point.
Result of 'iwconfig eth1':
eth1 IEEE 802.11 ESSID:"" Nickname:""
Mode:Managed Frequency:2.457 GHz Access Point: Not-Associated
Bit Rate:72 Mb/s Tx-Power:24 dBm
Retry min limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off
Power Managementmode:All packets received
Link Quality=5/5 Signal level=0 dBm Noise level=-93 dBm
Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0
Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0


STEP5: iwconfig eth1 key open 9977453890
STEP5a: ifconfig eth1 up

ERROR, TIMEOUT. Have not got an Access Point.
Result of 'iwconfig eth1':
eth1 IEEE 802.11 ESSID:"" Nickname:""
Mode:Managed Frequency:2.457 GHz Access Point: Not-Associated
Bit Rate:72 Mb/s Tx-Power:24 dBm
Retry min limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off
Power Managementmode:All packets received
Link Quality=5/5 Signal level=0 dBm Noise level=-93 dBm
Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0
Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0



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LAST 10 LINES of /var/log/messages:
Aug 17 14:53:28 puppypc4375 daemon.debug dhcpcd[14081]: eth1: sending REQUEST (xid 0x72cad48d), next in 8.11 seconds
Aug 17 14:53:33 puppypc4375 daemon.info dhcpcd[14081]: eth1: broadcasting for a lease
Aug 17 14:53:33 puppypc4375 daemon.debug dhcpcd[14081]: eth1: sending DISCOVER (xid 0x5ec885e4), next in 4.38 seconds
Aug 17 14:53:38 puppypc4375 daemon.debug dhcpcd[14081]: eth1: sending DISCOVER (xid 0x5ec885e4), next in 7.06 seconds
Aug 17 14:53:45 puppypc4375 daemon.debug dhcpcd[14081]: eth1: sending DISCOVER (xid 0x5ec885e4), next in 16.37 seconds
Aug 17 14:53:53 puppypc4375 daemon.err dhcpcd[14081]: timed out
Aug 17 14:53:53 puppypc4375 daemon.warn dhcpcd[14081]: allowing 8 seconds for IPv4LL timeout
Aug 17 14:54:01 puppypc4375 daemon.debug dhcpcd[14081]: eth1: sending DISCOVER (xid 0x5ec885e4), next in 31.95 seconds
Aug 17 14:54:01 puppypc4375 daemon.err dhcpcd[14081]: timed out
Aug 17 14:55:42 puppypc4375 daemon.err dhcpcd[16764]: dhcpcd not running

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#31 Post by jim3630 »

did try spup pet stay alive which didn't make a menu entry but gave message was installed. don't know if it worked or not.

installed ff 5.0 i686-1gv.txz which appears to work as expected.

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#32 Post by Lobster »

:oops: Still standing in the corner with my dunce cap on, for not being able to check am ISO md5sum :oops:

Onward . . . :)

Yesterday my sound was working
and my pic quality is very good
. . . today my sound goes on . . . well . . . I see the icon in the toolbar and then it mutes itself and goes red . . .
The sound is up, the right card is selected . . . should be able to hear sound.
No sound.
Been fiddling with settings, rebooting, running alsa and other wizards
Can not get sound.
My latest theory is somehow old config files from Alpha?
Not sure how . . .
I seem to remember the ATI driver has some sound controls but am not finding anything I can use?
Stumped. Will leave for now unless someone has an idea?
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#33 Post by jim3630 »

frisbee has survived a reboot making the wifi connection automatically but the tray icon shows erroneously the off symbol. I'm just happy to connect.

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#34 Post by James C »

Fresh frugal install on my main Athlon XP box.Everything looks good so far.

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1034MB (189MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Wed 17 Aug 2011 10:01:14 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X/AGP/SSE/3DNOW!
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235


-Version-
Kernel : Linux 2.6.37.6 (i686)
Compiled : #1 SMP Sun Jul 10 08:27:28 EST 2011
C Library : GNU C Library version 2.13 (stable)
Default C Compiler : Unknown
Distribution : Unknown distribution
-Current Session-
Computer Name : puppypc4164
User Name : root (root)
Home Directory : /root
Desktop Environment : Unknown (Window Manager: JWM)
-Misc-
Uptime : 1 hour, 34 minutes
Load Average : 1.05, 0.43, 0.22

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#35 Post by James C »

DaveS wrote:Try switching icon sets via the desktop menu. Do you then end up with some menu items without icons?
No problem with that here.
The pngoverlay thing is not working properly. Mount my Sd card correctly, but clicking the X to unmount it just brings up a rox window for it. I think this is a woof thing though?
Appears to be working correctly too.
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#36 Post by James C »

Also did a fresh manual frugal install on the old P3 test box,everything working fine on that install out of the box as well.

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#37 Post by 01micko »

Radeon users.. yes I forgot to flip to "modeset = 0".. it's hard coded in woof. I can't make a pet of it because it occurs in the 3builddistro stage.

Brokendale [brookdale] users.. though MMHP's report was not total success, I'll take 2 out of three, especially since the bad one was recoverable. There is also a button in WizardWizard (setup icon on desktop) that runs a brookdale script with Charlie's enhancements.

Jim1911, I will be updating to nvidia-280 (at least) for next beta and I won't forget to add glxgears as I did with 275.

jim3630.. I still haven't fixed frisbee which seems your only avenue to a connection. I'll have some time on the weekend to look at it. It has been a big job switching from unofficial to official status. Now that the teething problems from that have been exposed we can progress.

DaveS.. that would indicate a netpbm issue which Barry just upgraded. Since noone else has the issue can you check your iso? In development I had a bad CD! Didn't that cost me some time ! :roll: :x . I thought I jhad a major bug.. hunting everywhere.. did an identical rebuild and bug gone.. could only have been the CD. James, thanks for confirming it's ok at your end.

Nooby... I find it difficult to fathom your issue. I guess you use an external monitor? I remember you said once it was ok if you used Icewm, and in the last thread it was ok if you did some trick that someone suggested, I can't recall atm. Can anyone else with nooby's type of HW confirm? Nooby, run "report-video" in a console and tell me what driver is loaded.

Lobster, certainly strange to lose sound. I have a feeling that the sound wizard may break sound if you actually have it but just can't get the settingd right. Is retrovol still in the tray? Try running "alsamixer" in the terminal which brings up the ncurses mixer and adjust settings, don't forget to press "Tab" for extra settings, including microphone, capture etc. Check Pupradio help for mcewanw's url for a useful alsamixer tutorial. (I really should open that help in a browser and provide a hotlink).

wuwei, bad news about pppoe eh? I'm sure there is a fixed package somewhere, shino did some work on it, I'll look at his repo. Maybe you could check there? Find one of shinobar's posts and it is in his signature.
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#38 Post by Lobster »

Try running "alsamixer"
Ah good idea - will try that
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#39 Post by bigpup »

Fresh install
Frugal +save file

Slickpet->support->help
Slickpet->info button
Both Have references to Quickpet.

Welcome screen on first boot, gives the impression that you need to use connect to get on internet, even though you are already auto setup and have working connection.

Installed Nvidia 173.14.28 driver.
Glxgears works ,but gears are jerky.
Hardinfo->openGL information has no info about OpenGL driver, but Nvidia X server settings shows the Nvidia driver.

Menu->Business has no icon.
I did choose a different icon set with Desktop Icon Switcher before I noticed the missing icon.
Seems to be when using Stardust icon set.

So far programs seem to be working.


One observation in general about Slako.
If this is setup to test stuff. OK I understand, but I hope this is not the way the final version will be.
The look and features seem to be a step back in Puppy development not a step forward. I feel like I am using Puppy 4.3.1.
I hope some of the features introduced in the Lucid series get into the final version.
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#40 Post by Stripe »

hi all

beta working fine on my old 800mhz amd, 512mb ram nvidia graphics box

on to different hardware

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