Dpup Exprimo 5.X.15

[seaside]

Backi et al. I have now read and the optional save at shutdown is now more clear for me. It is intended when you boot in PUPMODE=13 aka pmedia=usbflash so that tmpfs is in top layer. It is not intended in normal frugal install in hdd aka PUPMODE=12.

Next thing, the optional save or not at shutdown should be done through /etc/rc.d/rc.shutdown script as scottman has showed. It means to modify snapmergepuppy row to have that Xdialog save or not.

Also if you shutdown without saving straight, there will be left /etc/.XLOADED file which means for puppy that you have done unclean shutdown and it performs fsck everytime, not bad thing, but every time, well....
And also you get info that you have shutdown uncleanly last time and you have to shut that box before it boots. So...you would need to remove .XLOADED and save that before you create the shutdown without saving....if you want to boot straight with out that stopping unclean shutdown message.
That rm /etc/.XLOADED could be in /etc/rc.d/rc.local file so that it will executed straight at bootup as last thing.


Anyway....that shutdown without saving is not the puppy way right now, it is more user preference and so it means hacking to the woof scripts to include it. I can include it as optional script, no more....

For those interested in having more control over saving to the pupsave file in frugal installations without editing shutdown scripts, you might be interested in "Save-pup-lock". It places a save icon on the desktop with several choices.

If you boot from a harddrive , you can force "PUPMODE=13" by using the boot code "pmedia=ideflash" and it will act as if it was booted from a thumbdrive and allow more flexibility in saving.

See here for more-
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=67341

Cheers,
s

[pemasu]

Thank you of the feedback.
Don570. Thank you of the information. I will look your zathura pet. What version was in your 5.2.4 squeeze right click pet. It is included in the next version already.
Seaside. Good to know that possibility. Another checking needed nice addition. Makes easier to test PUPMODE=13 with hdd frugal installation.

Note about e17. Some of the icons are not suitable for e17 at black background. Sysinfobox, Lxtask, rxvt icons are one of those. I am not sure if I will fix all of them, but lets see...
I have already changed couple of icons to be better with e17.

[nancy reagan]

I use Shino's "pupsave- config 1.9.9", though in -some- Lupu's it saves, while it says it does not.


http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=60678

[James C]

Here's the link
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=60678

[pemasu]

New woof out today. Thats fourth woof release after my last Dpup build. Lol. I have to dismiss it so that I can prepare the previous one for building. I just redownloaded the packages last night.
The latest woof is mostly for Spup Official building. 01micko has uploaded the needed packages to build Spup by yourself.

Barry K acknowlegded my problem with gtkdialog3 package. So my problem with it is true. Anyway, it is not important for normal usage and I have now fix around to get those gtkdialog examples to the devx sfs.

[backi]

Hi folks!

Thanks james c and nancy reagen for your advice.
I tested this pupsave-config 1.9.9

As far as i can see:
For people wish to save or not to save at shutdown.
One thing to say: normal Poweroff Button does not work any longer as usual (in my case).

To shutdown you must first press the normal POWEROFF BUTTON (will not work as usual.....press .cancel..... then press CTRL ALT BACKSPACE.

if you installed and started the pet above

2 options for :

1.) saveintervals -0 never ( use the normal POWEROFF BUTTON (will not work as usual ...press cancel.... then press CTRL ALT BACKSPACE to shutdown) ...> no save at shutdown.
If you want to save changes during session use the save2flash button.

2:) saveinterval +0 ASK AT SHUTDOWN ( use the normal POWEROFF BUTTON ...(will not work as usual....press cancel........ then press CTRL ALT BACKSPACE to shutdown) > you will be asked to save or not to save .

Before you press the poweroff button the CTRL ALT BACKSPACE does business as usual.
After you have pressed the Poweroff button pressing CTRL ALT BACKSPACE induces shutdown either in the 1. or 2. way above.

I am now using this method instead the one used mentioned in my posts
before.
Quite comfortable
And this filecheck thing at startup is finaly gone. Seems to work.
If i encounter any trouble i will post it.

Maybe there is a more elegant method .
Please let me know.

[nancy reagan]

Hi folks!

Thanks james c and nancy reagen for your advice.
I tested this pupsave-config 1.9.9

As far as i can see:
For people wish to save or not to save at shutdown. ... is

Hi Backi,

As I said: does not work in all Lupus anymore !

For, even it echoes at shutdown "session not saved", it appears that it was saved !

Tried Sc0ttman's instructions however ...

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=51466

[pemasu]

Dpup Exprimo 5.X.3 has been released. It uses 15.8.2011 woof and has fixes based on that release. Also I have updated to rerwins pupscan which shoud give better detailed info of hw. Seamonkey 2.3 full included. Evince for pdfs. Transmission updated to 2.31. I just didnt understood how to use that older version. Emelfm2 filemanager added. One tool more for e17. E17 has got some face lifting from the previous. One additional theme for it also. PupControl updated to 1.6.5.
There are probably some right clicks as double. My own and Don570 latest squeeze version overlaps a little, but I thought that I clean it up when I see doubles. You can report of them also. Idrivepanel for e17 drive icons to desktop added, though it has some quirks. Lets see how it works. Desksetup and Backup your desktop for jwm for possible sfs apps screwing them.
/root/my-applications/bin (which is in path) has nosaveshutdown for PUPMODE=13 usage. Dont use it if you dont know what you are doing.

2.6.39.3 kernel. Maybe I will start to use Iguleders 2.6.39-4. I have thought that I could compile it for PAE version.

Iso size 116 Mb. Xorg-high is not in build but available in exprimo repo as pet and sfs.

Dpup Exprimo 5.X.3 download: http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/DpupSque ... xprimo5X3/

[backi]

Hello Nancy Reagen!

Your are right in case of the saveinterval -0 never otion ,says "dont save", but does save.

But if im now using only the " saveinterval +0 (ask at shutdown) option
At shut down asks "save?" or "no save".
"no Save?" seems to work. And "save?" does too.

Seems to work

But looking further for it .
Thanks

[pemasu]

flite-gui-1.4.2-text-to-mp3.sfs added to the exprimo repo. I made sfs of Geoffreys great work and used stu90`s pet as template.
You can record text file to mp3 with it. For example....make a single text file of all Murga forum posts and listen it while driving through USA or Australia.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=66907

[pemasu]

Just found this post by James C. I searched from the net the whole post.

[quote]Linus torvalds about PAE
Posted on May 24, 2011

PAE really really sucks.

The biggest single reason to go 64-bit is exactly because of physical address space. Your virtual address space needs to bea multiple of the physical one: when you hit 1GB of RAM, 32-bit virtual memory is no longer acceptable. You literally do need more virtual memory than physical.

PAE turned that very simple fact on its head, and screwed things up royally. Whoever came up with the idea was totally incompetent, and had forgotten all the DOS HIGHMEM pains. There’s a damn good reason why we left the 286 behind, and started using 386′s, instead of having HIGHMEM crap with windows into a bigger physical space.

Repeat after me:

virtual space needs to be bigger than physical space. Not “as big

[Jim1911]

Hope this means that you are going to start experimenting with 64 bit kernel.

[James C]

A little behind schedule but Dpup Exprimo 5.x.3 live pfix=ram on the main Linux box. Nice tweaks on Enlightemment.
Everything working fine on initial boot.

# report-video
Dpup Exprimo, version 5.X.3 on Wed 17 Aug 2011

Chip description:
0.0 VGA compatible controller
nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)
oem: NVidia
product: NV18 () Board Chip Rev A2

X Server: Xorg
Driver used: nv

X.Org version: 1.7.7
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (411x263 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/root/ as report-video,
and archived with xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log as report-video-full.gz

I'll do a couple of installs a little later......... time for some food.

[jim3630]

flsynclient works! thanks for getting one can turn off as it makes a difference with a disability being able to turn that damn thing off and not loose data over and over. to turn it off it is more than a convenience of having it on for quick desktop maneuvering. anyway, I only use puppies now where it works and glad your's is one of them.

like the new desktop and will test over next few days.

pfix=ram manual frugal install to ext4. built-in broadcom wl.ko driver works flawlessly with frisbee.

-Computer-
Processor : 2x Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU P6100 @ 2.00GHz
Memory : 2519MB (213MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Wed 17 Aug 2011 04:22:40 PM GMT+8
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation

[Béèm]

Installed 5.X.3 FRUGAL Lin'N'Win
Activated my application environment.
Aps did work.

[jim3630]

ppm after updating it returned to beginning like an endless loop back to the first repro to download list again.

[don570]

Here are some notes to pemasu

I just downloaded your latest but not tested.

1)The clock's time was off by 4 hours,
but I ran the wizardwizard and was able to
get it right by choosing 'Software adjustment'

2) Line 260 of pclock 3.5
The audio player 'parole' should be changed to
defaultaudioplayer

3) pschedule needs to be installed for pclock to
work correctly

4) line 68 of pclock 3.5

export FONTSIZE=39
can be changed to

Code: Select all

export FONTSIZE=54

results in a minor change in appearance of pclock

5) Install lame libraries for Baconrecorder
to record in MP3 format

6) In baconrecorder script where it says
to launch 'retrovol' ---> change this to launch
'defaultaudiomixer' instead

7) A neat feature is converting a wav to mp3
with a right click as explained here
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 10&t=70759

8 ) Make sure that you have the 'right' version of
zathura installed. To check ---> Measure the
width of the zathura window. If it's 1024 pixels
then I compiled it and it's version .4.
If it's around 800 pixels wide then iguleder compiled it
and it's version .3


Maybe a better name than Exprimo is 'Squeeze Deluxe'

Iguleder can continue to make barebones Squeeze versions.



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[pemasu]

Thank you all of your feedback.
Don570. Thank you that you spent time with Exprimo. I will include those missing stuff and make the adjustment to the scripts. About Zathura. I wasnt sure if your squeeze right click include Zathura binary and I forgot to check it. I also forgot to add your Zathura gui. I will make an checked package of those. Right click extras with working combination is my next target.
I had difficulties with woof and pet_packages-common repo with this woof and resolving them took my time.

Jim3630. Nice report. I have updated synclient from debian wheezy. It works better than squeeze original.

I will stay with this woof probably for next version, cause it about works now.

About the name. I got request from Iguleder to change my experimental build name and I brainstormed this one while in day work. I somewhat need to use latin in my work so latin word was the solution. Let it be the name for these experimental builds. Lets see what happens next.

About 64-bit builds. I would say that if Iguleder makes the core for it, I will start add my stuff and start to experiment with 64-bit core immediately. Lets see. These are interesting times.....

[James C]

Went ahead and did a manual frugal install...... looks good.

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1033MB (147MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Thu 18 Aug 2011 12:30:33 AM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235


-Version-
Kernel : Linux 2.6.39 (i686)
Compiled : #1 SMP Fri Jul 15 19:38:53 GMT-8 2011
C Library : GNU C Library version 2.11.2 (stable)
Default C Compiler : Unknown
Distribution : Unknown distribution
-Current Session-
Computer Name : puppypc22119
User Name : root (root)
Home Directory : /root
Desktop Environment : Unknown (Window Manager: Enlightenment)
-Misc-
Uptime : 1 hour, 46 minutes
Load Average : 0.71, 0.35, 0.16

[Iguleder]

I want to write a new version of my package builder this weekend, to simplify things a bit. The goal is to make it more portable.

Once it's ready, maybe I'll make a 64-bit chroot environment from Debian Squeeze and rebuild the 2.6.39.4 kernel.