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Wary Puppy 5.1.4 - 29 August 2011
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Sage

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PostPosted: Tue 16 Aug 2011, 01:44    Post subject:  
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Pwallpaper does not detect any new wallpapers put into /usr/share/backgrounds even after a reboot.

Both rjbrewer and I have no problems with Pwallpaper - both recorded above. Lack of response from peebee might be due to a local issue? Nathan/Pwall - as long as it works...
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peebee


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PostPosted: Tue 16 Aug 2011, 07:27    Post subject: [SOLVED]  
Sage wrote:

Both rjbrewer and I have no problems with Pwallpaper - both recorded above. Lack of response from peebee might be due to a local issue? Nathan/Pwall - as long as it works...


Here for the interest of sage and rjbrewer is a screen shot showing my Pwallpaper problem.

As you can see I have copied a background called ORIGINAL-Third.jpg into /usr/share/backgrounds and then opened Pwallpaper where this file is nowhere to be seen............

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peebee
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PostPosted: Tue 16 Aug 2011, 07:31    Post subject:  
Try renaming it. Maybe it doesn't like all of those capital letters.

Who knows, maybe it will provide a clue.
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Sage

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PostPosted: Tue 16 Aug 2011, 09:03    Post subject:  
You cite your file as an .jpg, but your screen asks for a .png ? Have you tried converting your jpeg to the FSF picture format? Plenty of utilities around to inter-convert formats.
There can be other aspects to screw up displaying wallpapers, like size/res/ etc. I am no graphics expert but there'll be one along anytime soon.
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Billtoo

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PostPosted: Tue 16 Aug 2011, 10:06    Post subject: Wary Puppy 5.1.3  
I used the latest woof (aug 15th) to build wary 513 and the only
change I made was to use the 2.6.39.3 pae kernel.
It is working great,feels unbreakable.
Tue 16 Aug 2011 Operating System: Wary Puppy-5.1.3 Linux 2.6.39
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rjbrewer


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PostPosted: Tue 16 Aug 2011, 10:20    Post subject:  
Nathans wallpaper has been extremely reliable, but the simplicity
and ease of use of Pwallpaper is too good to pass up, IMO.
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Ray MK


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PostPosted: Tue 16 Aug 2011, 11:26    Post subject:  
Hi all

Great new Puppy - all seems good and BK is right re:
Seamonkey on low resource units, later versions are resource hogs. (FireFox - forget it)

Two small minor gremlins noticed -

1)No woof-woof on startup and
2)SNS not working for wifi -

(2 has been the case since around Wary511 on all recent woof builds)

Network Wizard is ok and works on all woof builds.

Frisbee seems ok too.

Thank you again Barry for all you do - I read your blog daily.
Your efforts are much appreciated, as are the efforts of all who help
to make Puppy by far, the best OS in the world.

Very best regards and God bless.
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peebee


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PostPosted: Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:21    Post subject:  
smokey01 wrote:
Try renaming it. Maybe it doesn't like all of those capital letters.

Who knows, maybe it will provide a clue.


SOLVED!
It was the file name....
Apparently any files with names starting ORIGINAL- are ignored - probably because the files in /usr/share/backgrounds_original have names in that format.

Very sorry that I caused confusion - but it is a strange "feature" of Pwallpaper....

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PeeBee
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cthisbear

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PostPosted: Tue 16 Aug 2011, 18:27    Post subject:  
A great release but has the same flaw as before.

I invite any Aussie ANZ customer to log into their account.

Zero...zilch...pita....it hangs.

No amount of tweaking Flashblock beats it.

I invite comments on this ANZ pain.

Can someone post a link to a browser Pet alternative.
That actually installs...and works.

However I got an N150 wireless dongle to work,
where Lucid could not.

Chris.
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BarryK
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PostPosted: Tue 16 Aug 2011, 18:29    Post subject: Re: [SOLVED]  
peebee wrote:
Sage wrote:

Both rjbrewer and I have no problems with Pwallpaper - both recorded above. Lack of response from peebee might be due to a local issue? Nathan/Pwall - as long as it works...


Here for the interest of sage and rjbrewer is a screen shot showing my Pwallpaper problem.

As you can see I have copied a background called ORIGINAL-Third.jpg into /usr/share/backgrounds and then opened Pwallpaper where this file is nowhere to be seen............

Cheers
peebee


That's your problem do not use any name with "ORIGINAL" in it!

Pwallpaper screens out any image with "ORIGINAL" in it, as that is used to designate image that have not been cropped for widescreen use.
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PostPosted: Tue 16 Aug 2011, 20:57    Post subject: Re: Wary Puppy 5.1.3  
Billtoo wrote:
I used the latest woof (aug 15th) to build wary 513 and the only
change I made was to use the 2.6.39.3 PAE kernel.
It is working great,feels unbreakable.
Tue 16 Aug 2011 Operating System: Wary Puppy-5.1.3 Linux 2.6.39
Great news from @BillToo. Maybe there's a way to send your ISO to Barry to post along side his WARY. For those who may be unaware, the performance measurement testing in this forum community of 4GB systems with Puppies running kernels without PAE and with PAE has proven to show "no negative impact". In fact, most testers have reported seemingly snappier desktop performance.

Beware, that the tests I am familiar with are on PCs that have been built after 2005. There is also one community member report that he has a particular Intel that does NOT support PAE. PAE is a CPU hardware feature designed to enable 32bit CPUs to address all RAM from 64MB to 64GB without the need to switch kernels.

I would like to have a 32bit Official WARY ISO for my 4GB RAM PCs, too. Maybe yours is available for test somewhere. So far, my test show DRAKE is the only official distro which runs on all PCs up to 64GB without the need to change kernels. (Its important to note that Barry has mentioned future plans in this area for 32bit PC users.)

Thanks, though, for the welcome news.
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PostPosted: Wed 17 Aug 2011, 07:18    Post subject:  
gcmartin have you tried midnightsunpup-003 by pemasu?
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Ray MK


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PostPosted: Wed 17 Aug 2011, 10:18    Post subject:  
Hi again

Just a small note to say that SNS works with wifi in wary512.

So it looks like from 5.1.2.3 onwards it stopped working.
Deff. no go in 5.1.2.7

Hope that helps somewhat - thank you again - Ray
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rjbrewer


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PostPosted: Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:23    Post subject:  
Ray MK wrote:
Hi again

Just a small note to say that SNS works with wifi in wary512.

So it looks like from 5.1.2.3 onwards it stopped working.
Deff. no go in 5.1.2.7

Hope that helps somewhat - thank you again - Ray


Sns works okay with my systems.

I don't use it though, as I have a few extra routers working as
access points around the property and sns doesn't show the
Mac address of the different routers.
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James C


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PostPosted: Wed 17 Aug 2011, 14:10    Post subject: Re: Wary Puppy 5.1.3  
gcmartin wrote:
Billtoo wrote:
I used the latest woof (aug 15th) to build wary 513 and the only
change I made was to use the 2.6.39.3 PAE kernel.
It is working great,feels unbreakable.
Tue 16 Aug 2011 Operating System: Wary Puppy-5.1.3 Linux 2.6.39
Great news from @BillToo. Maybe there's a way to send your ISO to Barry to post along side his WARY. For those who may be unaware, the performance measurement testing in this forum community of 4GB systems with Puppies running kernels without PAE and with PAE has proven to show "no negative impact". In fact, most testers have reported seemingly snappier desktop performance.

Beware, that the tests I am familiar with are on PCs that have been built after 2005. There is also one community member report that he has a particular Intel that does NOT support PAE. PAE is a CPU hardware feature designed to enable 32bit CPUs to address all RAM from 64MB to 64GB without the need to switch kernels.

I would like to have a 32bit Official WARY ISO for my 4GB RAM PCs, too. Maybe yours is available for test somewhere. So far, my test show DRAKE is the only official distro which runs on all PCs up to 64GB without the need to change kernels. (Its important to note that Barry has mentioned future plans in this area for 32bit PC users.)

Thanks, though, for the welcome news.


Linus Torvalds on PAE kernels.......

http://blog.linuxolution.org/archives/117


Quote:
PAE really really sucks.

The biggest single reason to go 64-bit is exactly because of physical address space. Your virtual address space
needs to bea multiple of the physical one: when you hit 1GB of RAM, 32-bit virtual memory is no longer acceptable. You literally do need more virtual memory than physical.

PAE turned that very simple fact on its head, and screwed things up royally. Whoever came up with the idea was totally incompetent, and had forgotten all the DOS HIGHMEM pains. There’s a damn good reason why we left the 286 behind, and started using 386′s, instead of having HIGHMEM crap with windows into a bigger physical space.

Repeat after me:

Virtual space needs to be bigger than physical space. Not “as big”. Not “smaller”. It needs to be bigger, by a factor of at least two, and that’s quite frankly pushing it, and you’re much better off having a factor of ten or more.
Anybody who doesn’t get that is a moron. End of discussion.
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