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PostPosted: Mon 15 Aug 2011, 04:03    Post subject:  

Slacko = Official Puppy 5.3
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02408 Smile

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PostPosted: Mon 15 Aug 2011, 04:19    Post subject:  

Béèm wrote:
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To 01micko for his spup being nominated officially a puppy and thus will hit distrowatch.


Really great news. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Aug 2011, 04:42    Post subject:  

01micko wrote:

Charlie, MinHundHettePerro (cum, Chien, or Koira maybe Laughing ).. can you see the dialog boxes when they pop up after boot? That is the first run wizard by shinobar. [It certainly seems as though JWM is part of the problem here, re cowboy].
Hello Smile!
On first boot I see the first-start top-splash and the centred dialogue box. I can choose lingo and TZ, tick numlock on, (res. is correctly pre-chosen as 1280x1024) but when I click the OK button to close it, the probability that the background is all a fuzzy mess behind the dialogue box is ~90%. Once there is a scrambled fuzzy patch, more will come, and the text in the Menu disappears, together with the text in the window titles. Clicking "yes" to restart X, or postponing it til later make no difference; restarting X invariably BSOD:s.

Another piece of info:
On first boot, when the drive-icons, of which I have quite a few, are drawn on the desktop, there is graphical hiccup for a second or so, the screen goes black and the three or four drive-icons that should have been drawn during this hiccup are simply missing, the rightward stepping continues, but nothing is drawn on the desktop. After the drawing of drive-icons continues.

I have been using 310.37 since its release (wasn't as difficult/impossible as 311/312.37 to get to restart with a working X) and one thing I've noticed with this version is that sometimes, quite rarely, after long use, the menu text goes a-missing, and the only way out is to reboot. Restarting Jwm does not fix this issue.

Long rambling error report Smile, hope it helps/ MHHP

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PostPosted: Mon 15 Aug 2011, 05:08    Post subject:  

MHHP

Thanks muchly for your, to wit, "Long rambling error report" Smile

Intriguing. I think part of the issue is rerwin's fix for Brookdales designed for lupu. I will back that out. I only just thought of that actually, I don't think it was in 310.37, it was in 311.37, and modded for 312.37. I'll still update the Intel driver and put in the gui at first start offering ways to improve brookdale performance if it is still flakey.

~~~

So it's official. We are the next Puppy. Smile

The next beta, which I was hoping to push tonight can wait til tomorrow. I am doing a pre-build right now. A new thread will be started.

I would like to take this opportunity to thank all you guys and the odd girl who have posted here and the old spup-100 series threads. Without all that feedback we wouldn't be where we are now. The announcement I hope will attract a few more heads to the table and your input will be greatly appreciated.

Well, time to knuckle down I guess!

Cheers!

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PostPosted: Mon 15 Aug 2011, 05:18    Post subject:  

Just to add >1000 words to my recent long, rambling, error report ...

hth Smile/ MHHP
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Aug 2011, 05:20    Post subject:  

Actually, that's exactly what I saw when my Brookdale threw a wobbly.
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Aug 2011, 06:02    Post subject:  

01micko wrote:






So it's official. We are the next Puppy. Smile

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Great news!Well done 01micko Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Aug 2011, 06:47    Post subject:  

So if I get it I should wait for a later upload and not test this one then?
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Aug 2011, 07:10    Post subject:  

Mick... you cant call girls odd anymore. Not PC you know Smile
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Aug 2011, 07:12    Post subject:
Subject description: 845G chipset vs Xorg: rambling ... again
 

Hi,
MinHundHettePerro wrote:
...after long use, the menu text goes a-missing, and the only way out is to reboot. Restarting Jwm does not fix this issue...


Still more intriguing ... this morning, just to check out (one more time) if fuzzy screen etc...repeats again ... I booted from 312.37 live-cd pfix=ram on the very same machine+TFT screen - but skipping the Personalize Settings - : result: ... everyrthing looked OK Shocked Embarassed ...??!
(Just AS IF this 845G Brookdale has «learned» or «memorized» runnig OK for quite a week ...! then I thought to myself «no..not determinist at all!»).

...except that, doing the personalize setting afterwards to BE_french locale the menu text goes i-missing.

After switching Menu/Desktop icon switcher to another icon theme (i.e. smooth-color) no more missing character in the menu text entries. And doing Ctrl-Alt-Backspace / xorgwizard / xwin some more times would not cause any fuzzy screen.

On another 82845G chip featured identical machine with another TFT display, got the fuzzy screen again as earlier.

@ 01micko
BTW congratulations to you ! That's great !
Cheers, Charlie
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Aug 2011, 07:13    Post subject:  

DaveS wrote:
Mick... you cant call girls odd anymore. Not PC you know Smile


Bugger! Hmmm.. enlightened girl? Very Happy

~~~

Sigmund.. I have emailed Joe Wing, notified him of the fuzzy icon issue (undoubtedly pixman again) and the flickering upon "jwm -restart" command. I hope he finds enough motivation to fix at least those two. Smile .

As Dougal has noted in another thread, Joe is pretty much neglecting jwm these days.. then you look at the alternatives.. openbox is not updated in more than 2 years, nor fbpanel, tint2 is active, icewm is very quiet for over a year. The rest of the light wms are either too geeky or too difficult. I prefer Jwm. At least if the pixman issue gets resolved it will look ok.. and come to think of it, that may be the issue with the brookdales.. cowboy?.. he keeps mooing about icewm! Laughing

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PostPosted: Mon 15 Aug 2011, 08:10    Post subject:  

Brokendale saga continued ...

Been first-booting slacko-312.37 for two hours now Shocked (autistic?, nah, only half-geeky).
Started to see a pattern; if I moved the mouse pointer to the top banner as quickly as possible to launch that BaCon first screen, there were no scrambled, fuzzy patches on my desktop - until some 55 seconds later Confused Confused Confused, still I could restart X, make a savefile and get on with slacko Smile Smile.

So, I commented out lines 177 - 231 in /usr/sbin/delayedrun:
Code:
  #while [ $RETVALs -eq 0 ];do #only do this if X running.
   #usleep 500000 #sleep 1
   #LOOPCNT=`expr $LOOPCNT + 1`
   ##20110328 put up dialog if no mouse movement...
   #if [ $LOOPCNT -eq 14 -a "$DISTRO_XORG_AUTO" = "yes" ];then #5 seconds, change 14=7secs 110516
    #CURPOS2="`getcurpos`"
    #if [ "$CURPOS1" = "$CURPOS2" ];then
     #choosemousefunc
     #if [ $? -eq 0 ];then
      #sync
      #exec restartwm
     #fi
    #fi
   #fi
   #[ $LOOPCNT -gt 110 ] && break #55 second timeout.
   #[ "`pidof yaf-splash`" != "" ] && continue
   ##bark and put up the getting started message...
   
##   FLAGSND=""
##   FLAGSND="`grep 'alias snd\-card\-0' /etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf`" #101112 see alsa wizard, /usr/sbin/alsaconf
##   [ "$FLAGSND" = "" ] && [ "`find /etc/modprobe -maxdepth 1 -type f -name 'alsa_card*.conf'`" != "" ] && FLAGSND="`cat /etc/modprobe.d/alsa_card*.conf | grep 'snd\-card\-0'`" #101120 see /sbin/pup_event_backend_modprobe
##   if [ "$FLAGSND" != "" ];then #101017 101112
   ##if [ -f /tmp/rc_d_rc_services_alsa_ok ];then #101121 see /etc/rc.d/rc.services.
   #if [ -c /dev/mixer ];then #110113 test for sound ready, see /etc/init.d/10alsa.
    ##aplay /usr/share/audio/2barks.au &
    ##wavplay /usr/share/audio/2barks.wav &
    #aplay /usr/share/audio/2barks.wav & #01micko for alsaequal bug
    #RETAPLAY=$?
    #PIDAPLAY=$!
   #fi
   ##101009 problem as tray applets only got launched after welcome msg exited...
   ##100511 for ram-challenged pc, better to display png...
   ##101019 welcome1stboot is now a gtkdialog app...
   ##if [ -f /usr/share/doc/welcome1stboot.png ];then
   ## if [ "`which gview`" ];then
   ##  gview /usr/share/doc/welcome1stboot.png & #101009
   ## else
   ##  defaultimageviewer /usr/share/doc/welcome1stboot.png & #101009
   ## fi
   ##else
   ## #100522 'surfer' is a simple viewer (uses libgtkhtml)...
   ## if [ -f /usr/bin/surfer ];then
   ##  surfer /usr/share/doc/welcome1stboot.htm & #can't handle the file:// prefix. 101009
   ## else
   ##  $BAREVIEW file:///usr/share/doc/welcome1stboot.htm & #101009
   ## fi
   ##fi
   ##/usr/share/doc/welcome1stboot & #101019
   #welcome1stboot & #110412 now in /usr/sbin
   #sleep 3 #101009
   ##[ $RETAPLAY -eq 0 ] && kill $PIDAPLAY 2> /dev/null
   #[ "`pidof aplay`" != "" ] && killall aplay
   #break
  #done
  #[ $RETVALs -eq 0 ] && kill $YAFPIDs 2>/dev/null

re-squashed the puppy_spup_312.37.sfs and now IT WORKS, EVERY TIME Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy.
Don't get to see the BaCon splash thingy, though. Maybe a more restrictive commenting-out of lines in the code block above would have been preferred.

Anyway, for someone that knows the ins and outs of the quoted code block, there is something contained in there that messes with my Brokendale (rev3).

hth Smile/ MHHP

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PostPosted: Mon 15 Aug 2011, 08:18    Post subject:  

Autistic... mmmh.. m'i rome dslyxeic..

anyway.. I think I commented the piggy bits in 310.37, or even removed the exec, I forget... (demented?.. moi?).. could be on to something there..

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PostPosted: Mon 15 Aug 2011, 08:21    Post subject:  

01micko wrote:
Bugger! Hmmm.. enlightened girl? Very Happy
Where is Enlightenment for slacko? Wink
Could solve JWM problems. Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Mon 15 Aug 2011, 08:23    Post subject:  

Béèm wrote:
Where is Enlightenment for slacko? Wink


I did indeed write a build script to do such in Lupu.. long did before Iguleder.. even referred him the post... soon Smile

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