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scsijon

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PostPosted: Sun 14 Aug 2011, 23:20    Post subject:  

I found the problem with my box3 relates to a Kernal Module Problem!

:Loading kernal Modules....[ 25.014560] BUG: unable to handle kernal paging request at 342c0020.

I have added it in Iguleders 4991/next thread as as I understand it your using his kernal packs. Hopefully he can sort it out.

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backi

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PostPosted: Sun 14 Aug 2011, 23:57    Post subject:
Subject description: Ldrivepanel
 

Hi folks!

This ldrivepanel is something i was looking for.
Quite comfortable.

Thanks
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pemasu


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PostPosted: Mon 15 Aug 2011, 01:09    Post subject:  

scsijon. Do I remember right that you used Amd Sempron in that machine. If so, that problem is probably due to intel atom optimization I used. I have my own kernel compilation, which is the product of Ice Puppy thread kernel project, Barry took the .config script and modified it better and then I modified it little again and that is lupe28 kernel.
To get kernel working with most machines, you would need most conservative specs and that is something I dont want. My main target is somewhat newer comps and especially laptops. There are already so many Barrys builds for older comps that it is not worthy to add one more to that era.

And my laptop is quite new still, intel i5 cpu quadcore. It would be shameful to use kernel specs which are for oldest pentium machines. I have already lowered threshold from dual core specs to atom specs which are close of Pentium 4 specs.

I am sorry, I wont lower threshold more.....
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Aug 2011, 04:05    Post subject:  

The story of Idrivepanel-demo → idrivepanel
I discovered Idrivepaneldemo made by seaside.
I asked him to isolate the Idrivepanel part and he did.
I referenced it in this thread and pemasu liked it and renamed the pet to Idrivepanel-0.0.1.pet to match it with woof requirements.

So thank you seaside and maybe we will find this nice facility standard in Exprimo.

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PostPosted: Mon 15 Aug 2011, 05:26    Post subject:
Subject description: Shutdown without saving
 

High folks!

Backi back in town.
About this "shutdown without saving" option.

It is quite usefull for me.Sometimes i am trying out some new programms or packages or sometimes experimenting with some changes ...and so on,
when something went wrong or i dont like the whole show, i am able to leave
"Desaster island" without saving any crap.

A bit like a virtual virtual box.

Sometimes quite comfortable.

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PostPosted: Mon 15 Aug 2011, 05:54    Post subject:  

Backi. I wont change woof scripts easily, but if you have modified script for shutdown, I can include it to the build, where you and other can copy it over existing script.
I think that what you ask is more modification for personal preferences than something which I change as default behavior. I tested about one year ago the mechanism you ask, but I dont remember straight what it took to achieve it. For next build anyway I will only include ready made modification to some dedicated folder for use to those who want to use this save only as demand.
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Aug 2011, 07:00    Post subject:
Subject description: Shutdown without saving
 

High pemasu !

For my shutdownscript i used the second script from "MochiMoppel"

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=65016

I am a complete LINUX beginner.
I did this:
Opened Geany and copied and put into (Geany) this script

#!/bin/sh

# skips rc.shutdown and powers off computer without saving the session.
Xdialog --title "script $0" --yesno "\n\nAre you sure to power-off computer WITHOUT saving?\n\n" 0 0
[ $? -eq 0 ] && exec /bin/busybox poweroff

Then i saved it as "SHUTDOWN WITHOUT SAVING" or something like this
to root or i think any place you like.
If you want to execute it now clicking on it.... there will be a message

"No run Action specified for files of this type bla bla bla..."

Right click on your new "downshutter"
menue will appear
go to PERMISSION chosse a+x(Make executable/searchable)
click yes.
Now it should run if i am right.
Then you can decorate it with a pretty Icon.
In Puppy Event Manager check "save Session" Save interval =0 minutes
I am using Pupsave mode=0 (it means never)
Up til now i never encounterd any serious problem.
There is more written here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=65016

This script was from MochiMoppel the second one
I am using DPup and Macpup installed to USB stick (both go well with this feature)
I dont know if there would be problems with full installation.

Cheers

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PostPosted: Mon 15 Aug 2011, 07:24    Post subject:
Subject description: Clickable links
 

High
It`s me

Some silly question

How to make clickable links when i am posting here
Thanks in advance
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Aug 2011, 07:31    Post subject:  

Backi. I will read more about your used solution. I am not sure how safe this method is for existing savefile, but if you dont save at all, it is more like load savefile and you dont want any changes into it. Is this method safe, because you have loaded your savefile, I dont know.

I can include it as optional usage from /root/my-applications/bin, which is on the path and so executable straight with console and that is recommended place for optional binaries and executable scripts.

Decorating it with executable icon in JWM Pinboard (Rox Pinboard) is something you need to do yourself.

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PostPosted: Mon 15 Aug 2011, 08:54    Post subject:
Subject description: Shutdown without save
 

Hello pemasu!

Shutdown with this script never caused trouble for me.

(I am using Pups on USB stick)

The only thing is ,during bootup ,when all this messages appear,
there will be one like " checking save file...bla...bla.."
But that does not matter .
Had always correct boot.
In case you want to save some changes(during session), use the "savetoflash" option click the button ,(place a symlink from /usr/sbin/save to flash button beside the button "Shutdown without save".)

Then after that, if you like, end the session with "shutdow without saving).
It shuts down faster and your Usb stick maybe will live longer because not so much writing to it.
If you used "save to flash "during a session (of course after save procedure with save button has finished)
you can shutdown without saving or use the normal shutdown procedure which will save the session again.
The normal shutdown button on the shelve works as usual.
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Aug 2011, 09:13    Post subject:
Subject description: test
 

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/index.php?f=35
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Aug 2011, 10:41    Post subject:  

Backi et al. I have now read and the optional save at shutdown is now more clear for me. It is intended when you boot in PUPMODE=13 aka pmedia=usbflash so that tmpfs is in top layer. It is not intended in normal frugal install in hdd aka PUPMODE=12.

Next thing, the optional save or not at shutdown should be done through /etc/rc.d/rc.shutdown script as scottman has showed. It means to modify snapmergepuppy row to have that Xdialog save or not.

Also if you shutdown without saving straight, there will be left /etc/.XLOADED file which means for puppy that you have done unclean shutdown and it performs fsck everytime, not bad thing, but every time, well....
And also you get info that you have shutdown uncleanly last time and you have to shut that box before it boots. So...you would need to remove .XLOADED and save that before you create the shutdown without saving....if you want to boot straight with out that stopping unclean shutdown message.
That rm /etc/.XLOADED could be in /etc/rc.d/rc.local file so that it will executed straight at bootup as last thing.


Anyway....that shutdown without saving is not the puppy way right now, it is more user preference and so it means hacking to the woof scripts to include it. I can include it as optional script, no more....

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PostPosted: Tue 16 Aug 2011, 01:15    Post subject:  

pemasu wrote:
scsijon. Do I remember right that you used Amd Sempron in that machine. If so, that problem is probably due to intel atom optimization I used.

I am sorry, I wont lower threshold more.....


nope, pure Intel through and through.

Never mind, i'll just use one of the others.
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PostPosted: Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:08    Post subject:  

Pemasu, you're the man.

Offer Barry to build some community-release of dpup. I'm sure all the dpup fans around will be useful Smile

I'll do my best to help such an effort. I'm working on getting a barebones dpup working with a vanilla Woof, so we don't need all those hand-made fixes anymore.

We can reach RC1-quality within weeks from now. We can do it, I believe in dpup.

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PostPosted: Tue 16 Aug 2011, 14:24    Post subject:  

Yea ! let's go.

Keep on rocking!
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