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Dingo

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Posted: Fri 05 Aug 2011, 11:43 Post subject:
fotowall-0.9 Subject description: a fun tool for creating graphics by mixing some of your favorite pictures |
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fotowall-0.9 (for Puppy Linux 5.2.5)
- http://www.dokupuppylinux.co.cc/programs:photo_tools
- direct download
Quote: | Fotowall is a fun tool for creating graphics by mixing some of your favorite pictures in a nice and smooth high resolution composition.
Check out the new homepage on:
- http://www.enricoros.com/opensource/fotowall/
The interface is intuitive:
- just push the 'help' or 'tutorial' buttons to get started |
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disciple
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Posted: Fri 05 Aug 2011, 18:54 Post subject:
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This is another static QT app, isn't it?
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Posted: Fri 05 Aug 2011, 19:07 Post subject:
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disciple wrote: | This is another static QT app, isn't it? |
yes is built on STATIC QT4 libs, but since it needs some extra shared dependencies from libstdc++, only works in Lucid Puppy
the advantages are reduced to no needing to install QT4 libraries
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Posted: Fri 05 Aug 2011, 21:29 Post subject:
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Sorry to get off topic, but since you're making so many static packages, I'd like to ask:
Quote: | the advantages are reduced to no needing to install QT4 libraries |
What other advantages would there be otherwise? Static packages eliminate the user's ability to try to run a program against incompatible libraries, but what else is there?
I think static packages are madness unless the user is only going to have one program which uses the library (so for very common dependencies like QT4 they will almost always be madness).
There are many disadvantages:
- all packages need to be updated if a bug in the static library is fixed
- larger downloads
- more hard disk space required
- more memory required, because you can run many programs using the same shared library, and it is only loaded into memory once*, but if you run many programs using the same static library then it is loaded into memory again for every single program (also note that when a upxed program is run, it is uncompressed to be loaded into memory), so if a user runs a number of these static QT apps then they will consume a significant amount of memory - not in the spirit of Puppy IMNSHO.
* Note that programs like top do not take this into account, so they report the memory usage of each program as including that of all shared libraries - so the actual physical memory usage will be less than the sum of that reported for all apps by top.
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Posted: Fri 05 Aug 2011, 21:30 Post subject:
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BTW, I presume you're familiar with the QT apps in this old thread?
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Posted: Sat 06 Aug 2011, 06:52 Post subject:
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yes I seen
the main purpose of making STATIC QT packages is giving ability to users of Puppy 2.14, 3.01, 4.3.x series, to use (if they need or want) to use packages otherwise not available for their puppy version, without needing to install additional QT4 libs or not available in their series or potentially dangerous for system (if they already have QT3)
QT STATIC are the *extrema ratio* for user, when he runs happily a good old puppy version but he need to use a program built on latest QT4 libs
let do an example: I run since 2007 Puppy 3.01, but when I need strictly a program built on latest QT4 libs, I start Lucid Puppy, compile STATICALLY and then, if it has no other relevant dependencies, I can use the program built statically in my good old Puppy 3.01 without fear to break system installing latest QT4 libs (if available), or crying because I can't build latest QT4 (that need a gcc newer than gcc contained in Puppy 3.01-4.3.1)
I also figured to insert a postinstall script in static qt packages, to ask in a x(gx) message window, if user want to move qt static executable outside puppy save, but then I preferred to not include; anyone can move outside puppy save if wants
all this because Puppy, we know, is different from Ubuntu that abandon users of old versions, while old puppies can be better than newer in many cases and in many hardwares and are worthy to support
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Posted: Sat 06 Aug 2011, 07:06 Post subject:
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But surely if you've managed to compile a recent QT4 with static libs that work in an old Puppy, the dynamic libs would also work in it?
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Posted: Sat 06 Aug 2011, 07:12 Post subject:
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disciple wrote: | But surely if you've managed to compile a recent QT4 with static libs that work in an old Puppy, the dynamic libs would also work in it? |
I remember that some time ago, when I tried to build latest QT4 libs on Puppy 4.3.1, I got an error message about gcc (too old)
since I'm planning to build newer QT4 just released in Lucid Puppy I'll try again compiling both statically and shared version to see compatibility in Puppy 4.3.1, of QT4 libs built in Lucid
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Posted: Sat 06 Aug 2011, 09:29 Post subject:
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@Dingo, good work. QT4 is a behomoth compared to puppy, so if someone wants just one QT4-based app, without QT4, this is the way to do it.
@Disciple, how are statically compiled QT4 apps any worse than portablelinuxapps?
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Posted: Sat 06 Aug 2011, 18:12 Post subject:
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They probably aren't worse. But I thought the point of portablelinuxapps was that people could use them on any distro when they they don't have the permissions to install software in the normal way... which shouldn't be an issue here in "root forever" land.
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Posted: Mon 08 Aug 2011, 16:46 Post subject:
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Dingo,
Thanks for making this available. I ran it in pup525 and could not get the images from Flickr or Google (just grey boxes) after a search.
I noticed this error on start "VideoDevice::open: Unable to open file "/dev/video". It also froze after using it a bit.
Any ideas,
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Posted: Tue 09 Aug 2011, 01:25 Post subject:
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seaside wrote: | Dingo,
Thanks for making this available. I ran it in pup525 and could not get the images from Flickr or Google (just grey boxes) after a search.
I noticed this error on start "VideoDevice::open: Unable to open file "/dev/video". It also froze after using it a bit.
Any ideas,
Regards,
s |
I get the same problem in quirky 1.20 NOP , it did pickup the web cam but just blank no picture
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Pelo
Joined: 10 Sep 2011 Posts: 12591 Location: Mer méditerrannée (1 kms°)
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Posted: Fri 03 Jan 2014, 06:33 Post subject:
Fotowall is the final touch ! Subject description: The prettiest graphics tool available in Puppy |
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The prettiest graphics tool available in Puppy, and not so expensive in MBs
Is that always true that fotowall can be used only with Lucid Puppies ? (2014)
Fotowall 1.0 Lucid 52 from Lucid package repository.
try it with Dpup exprimo Go and Try it
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Billtoo

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Posted: Fri 03 Jan 2014, 10:33 Post subject:
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Fotowall works in Quirky 6.1
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Pelo
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Posted: Thu 07 Jan 2016, 02:42 Post subject:
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PPM makes fotowall quite expensive with Quirky !
QT included in RSH fotowall SFS makes several Qt apps available (open movie editor, among them) for cheap Price (less than 10MB)
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