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[mikeslr]

Hi pemasu & All,

I'm sorry if this has been covered. I'm only read thru page 10 of this thread and you upto 15.
I have just frugally installed Exprimo 5 version 04. I'm posting via opera on mnt/home, which I haven't even set up to run via menu. My system uses built in Ati Radeon Graphics which, with my monitor, can display at 1600 x 900 x 24. I've had to add "pfix=radeon.modeset=0" to the kernel boot arguments to obtain that resolution. Without that argument the most version 04 would display was 600x460. This was a step-down from versions 01 and 03, which gave me 800x600, but only if I added the modeset argument. I've had to use that argument in Slacko 31 --without it I couldn't create a SaveFile-- but do not have to use it in Iguleder's dpup.
Lupu identifies my graphics as ATI Radeon 3100 Graphics.
Perhaps related to xorg's difficulty Exprimo has with my system is the appearance of black boxes on some programs. Attached is a screenshot of Frisbee after several seconds. When first opened, the space in between the two rectangles was also filled with black. When the dialogue boxes open into which text is to be input, the space into which the text is to be written is also blacked-out, but clears when I begin to type.

More later, as Exprimo is very fast on my system and hopefully will develop to the point where it can replace Lupu as my primary OS.

I would urge the devs to get to the root of Xorg problems with both Ati Radeon and nVidia using recent kernels on fairly recent computers. Those problems present newbies with "show-stoppers." Even for someone like me, having to figure out when, and which, modeset argument is needed to obtain a pleasurable desktop is annoying.

mikesLr

[pemasu]

Mikeslr. I suggest you to update to the 5.X.1 version. 5004 was unlucky woof build. PPM was broken without any reason and heaven knows what else.

About your problems with xorg. Barry Kauler and 01micko have struggled with it, Barry with Drake and 01micko with Slacko and so far real solutions have not been found.

I dont have knowledge - ability to fix it my self. I can only try test different methods to get it working better. I am no coder to try to edit xwin - xorgwizard - xorgwizard-automatic scripts. Sorry.

To tame new xorg is probably the biggest challenge.

[marco07]

[marco07]

[stu90]

[pemasu]

First small victory for me. I got stubborn xorg.conf to be generated with fglrx driver so that it took my spesifications for fglrx and other sections included.

What it took. First I installed ATI Catalyst 11.7 pet. My pet has depmod -a and modprobe fglrx in pinstall.sh. Next to prompt and aticonfig --initial. I run xorgwizard and chose fglrx xorg driver. Next to X. I had fglrx loaded and CCC launched ok to be sure that fglrx was loaded. And I had that short xorg.conf with only aticonfig --initial script generated and some other sections into it. No synaptics loaded and no way to change keyboard layout to finnish.

But...I have /etc/X11/xorg.conf.ATI_ATOMBIOSSAMSUNG file which works as template. Some of Barrys templates had created it. So I copied needed sections from my lucid puplet into it, saved and then just restarted X.

Voila !!!! The generated xorg.conf had those sections included and I have fully functional xorg.conf now.

Keyboard layout was finnish and xorg xkb gui started.
Flsynclient worked since synaptics and synclient were loaded.

Screenshot added to document my succes and also my /etc/X11/xorg.conf.ATI_ATOMBIOSSAMSUNG if somebody wants to try. With other driver you have another template created in /etc/X11/ but my version has sections which enabled the keyboard layout section and synaptics section so someone might benefit to study it. Remove the phony .gz

If you just copy my template to your build, it is probably not used. Somehow the Barrys scripts generates the needed template for every driver which will be used as template to add sections to to the xorg.conf file. Xorg.conf will be regenerated every time you boot to the X with xwin or autoboot to the X.

[pemasu]

Stu90. No, you dont hijack. I try to be stubborn and face with my limited skills the xorg problem.

Please post your working solutions and guide them to your thread. It helps me a lot if there is another solution to offer.

I think that all these dpup builds belongs to the same family with their own modifications.

Comparing the results and different solutions is helpful to the users.

[DaveS]

[peebee]

vattery starts to work for me if i replace "unknown" with "yes" in 1vattery in startup.

I think this is because there is no word "unknown" in my battery state file:

/proc/acpi/battery/C23B/state which contains:

[DaveS]

YAY........ a fix for Vattery Works for me also thanks

[marco07]

[pemasu]

Peebee. Nice find. The original usage of that grep | unknown is that ibam does not work if battery discharge rate is unknown. But..it seems that there are also other parameters which makes ibam to seqfault.

My previous suggestion to leave only shebang row and exec vattery-acpitool should have worked also.

To get more accurate result with Vattery there is vattery-ibam binary also, it gets more accurate when you drain your battery couple of times. Thats how I have read from fluppy thread.

I have modified /root/.config/vattery-ibam/config and /root/.config/vattery-acpitool/config files so that suspend to ram should be run when battery state is critical. you can change also warning and critical percent levels by editing those files.

Anyway, the original 1vattery script has problems with ibam still.
If you use that yes, then the script disables practically always the vattery-ibam launching which should have been disabled by that simple script.
Parameter unknown clearly does not detect all batteries which does not work with vattery-ibam.

Anyway....using yes as default change means that the script could be only exec vattery-acpitool.
Ok. I am repeating myself...Me...out.

[Billtoo]

Between gnome games and kdegames there's a lot available but it took quite a while to download in puppy package manager.

[marco07]

I finally installed, manual frugal, Expriomo 5.X.1 this evening on my Thinkpad R60 laptop.. I have been fiddling with it for a couple of hours now. Everything is responsive so far. I have some minor issues:
-fonts in seamonkey are quite small and pale. Even zooming is not much of help.
-resuming from sleep sends me into terminal. I got out of it by typing startx.
- I tried to install Kmymoney, however, did not proceed with the installation thru PPM, due to a large number of dependencies (380 MB).
- I also wished to install Libre Office, but could not locate it in the PPM.
I am sure the above are not significant issues and are all resolvable. Aside from these the system is fast and pretty responsive. I am also using the Enlightment desktop and have to do some learning. It seems to be a handy desktop environment once you get hang of it.
Suggestions regarding above issues are appreciated.

[jim3630]