Dpup Exprimo 5.X.15

[cowboy]

My head hurts, some. As an end user, do I lean toward the original (kinda) Dpup Squeeze 4.9.9* as rolled by Iguleder, or do I pick up the 5.0.0+ as promulgated by Pemasu? This is the kind of thing that drives lame-o end users of Puppy derivatives crazy. Will either be maintained? Will one endure and one disappear? You makes your bets and you takes your chances...

For now, I'm betting on Pemasu's version as the best for end user support for the debian-interested Puppian-about-town. And no, I've no particular reason. Iguleder is a remarkable dev, one of the more intriguing active with Puppy. But I'm going to bet on the branch in this instance, instead of the trunk. Make sense? Or am I forcing a distinction where none is needed?

[cowboy]

Dpup Exprimo 5.X.1 has now been built.

Ah, see we've "forked" officially. I'll shut up now. Nevermind...(downloading the new Exprimo)

[James C]

Dpup Exprimo 5.X.1 live pfix=ram.Everything working on initial boot. Frugal install to follow.


Dpup Exprimo, version 5.X.1 on Thu 4 Aug 2011
Chip description:
0.0 VGA compatible controller
nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)
oem: NVidia
product: NV18 () Board Chip Rev A2

X Server: Xorg
Driver used: nv

X.Org version: 1.7.7
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (411x263 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes


-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1033MB (176MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Thu 04 Aug 2011 08:14:35 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235

# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 1033900 473440 560460 0 68404
Swap: 1228936 0 1228936
Total: 2262836 473440 1789396

[James C]

Went ahead and did a full install on a ext 3 partition.No problems with the installer or GParted.

[marco07]

Where is this Exprimo 5.X.1?

[scsijon]

Where is this Exprimo 5.X.1?

On his website

try

http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/DpupSque ... xprimo5X1/

[James C]

Been tweaking a little bit.......

[scsijon]

Report on initial tests for Puppy dpup 5.X.1

Of the three boxes I have available I have only used two at this stage,
I need to cleanup the other and find room.

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Box 1: Has been left for now however lspci is added here in case it's of use. It has a video with Intel 915G and 256M.

added: Box 1 install went perfectly ok, no problems of any type to add.

lspci-box1
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82915G/P/GV/GL/PL/910GL Memory Controller Hub (rev 04)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 04)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 04)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 04)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #1 (rev 04)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #2 (rev 04)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #3 (rev 04)
00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #4 (rev 04)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 04)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev d4)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FR (ICH6/ICH6R) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 04)
00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FW (ICH6/ICH6W) SATA Controller (rev 04)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 04)
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5751 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 11)
03:01.0 Ethernet controller: D-Link System Inc DGE-530T Gigabit Ethernet Adapter (rev 11) (rev 11)

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Box 2: This box failed when attempting to probe video, it should I believe use a radeon driver, but is chosing radeonhd, in neither case would it start xwin. Also on reboot and to the xorgwizard step I have found if I choose vesa it is missing vesa_drv.so in the appropriate location.

lspci-box2
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ/P/PL Memory Controller Hub (rev 02)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ/P/PL PCI Express Root Port (rev 02)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family PCI Express Port 1 (rev 01)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family PCI Express Port 2 (rev 01)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 01)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 01)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 01)
00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 01)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 01)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev e1)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GB/GR (ICH7 Family) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 01)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation N10/ICH7 Family SATA IDE Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family SMBus Controller (rev 01)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV710 [Radeon HD 4350]
01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RV710/730
03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 01)
04:00.0 Communication controller: Agere Systems LT WinModem (rev 02)

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Box3: This box started and installed ok, but failed on reboot, it got to the line "setting services" and coredumped, many lines starting with
[72.646669] [<varying hexidecimals>] ? varying names,
the first visable is [72.646669] [<c101acec>] ? mm_default_error+0xc9/0xc9
and the last shown is [72.646669] [<c13334d5>] ? syscall_call+0x7/0xb

I am not sure where to go from here, this was my origonal puppy box and the only two fails are from Igu's 4991 and now this 5X1, all others (not dpup's) have worked ok on this box.

lspci-box3
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 02)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
00:06.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P Processor to I/O Memory Interface (rev 02)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02)
00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev c2)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 02)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) IDE Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801EB (ICH5) SATA Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
01:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet Controller (rev 01)

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ok, where do we go from here?

I shall "do" Box1 later today and insert the result in this reply in the appropriate place above.Done No problems with video. Wonder what the problem is between the two intel chipsets.

I do note that Iguleder's 4991 failed for both boxes 2 and 3 at earlier points so maybe it's just that there is something missing in the kernal package.

regards
scsijon

[DaveS]

Seriously gettin there now

What game is this? It is not aisle riot. Right? Is it a stand alone game? From PPM?

It is indeed Tkspider. Tkspider is not in the PPM, probably because it needs the Tk/Tcl runtime environments added to function, same with Freecell. I have built Tk/Tcl as two sfs packages to save having to install them from .pets. If anyone wants Tkspider and Freecell I could make a package for them available along with Tk/Tcl.

[pemasu]

Devx sfs uploading now. When I come back from work, I will update the first page, but I provide the links now.

scsijon: Dpup, mine and I Iguleder ( I use Iguleders core packages, same core specs) have serious problems with X. But...I have managed to load appropriate driver with using xorgwizard manual choose. Xorg automatic device handling is the problem. Short xorg.conf does not work. Keyboard layout change and synaptics loading with short xorg.conf fails.

Cowboy. Name change was the request by Iguleder and I wanted that this puplet has distintictive name. Now the name reflects original Iguleders build. Exprimo (latin word) means about squeeze if I havent used translator really wrong.

Anyway. I will follow closely what Iguleder does and update everything which improves dpup. Also this thread provides feedback for Iguleder. We find bugs on this thread and core system benefits from it.

I compiled ATI 11.7 fglrx package and made a pet of it. I will do some stripping first and then I upload it. It suffers for me from that short xorg.conf. No chance so far with changing the keyboard layout to finnish and get synaptics loading. But the graphics driver and CCC works.

Download link to the Dpup Exprimo 5.X.1:
http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/DpupSque ... xprimo5X1/

[Iguleder]

Good work, pemasu.

I think it could be nice for users to have your puplet as the "frontend" for my work, while I focus on more low-level stuff, like the base package selection, Puppizard and the kernel.

By the way - there's a new and improved Puppizard. It has repositories support - it downloads all build scripts through the ncurses interface, so you always get the latest and greatest. Pretty neat.

I'm also compiling 2.6.39.4 at the moment, with some performance tweaks.

[backi]

Dear friends.

With the new Dpup Exprimo no longer problems installing to Usb.

works fine
Thanks

[pemasu]

Thank you of feedback. I think that I will create preliminary list to the first page of fixed things and how I have done them. So it is easy to have reference from that central location. I put the fixed to the end of first post. And also I update the bugs still remaining, like this Xorg automatic handling problem.

[Iguleder]

Just uploaded the latest Puppizard, it's here.

Now it should make all packages Puppy-style - it removes extra icons and puts Puppy-style menu entries. Should be good.

Also, 2.6.39.4 is ready, gonna upload it to here, as always. It's patched with BFS and has some other performance tweaks. Many staging drivers are included and Nouveau is excluded it doesn't get along with old hardware.

This time there's a sources SFS and a kernel headers package, both include Aufs stuff, so packages like aufs2-util can be built easily.

[Billtoo]

Frugal install using pui from live cd.
Installed devx+kernelsourcesfs+ati-driver-installer-11-7-x86.x86_64.run

# report-video
Dpup Exprimo, version 5.X.1 on Fri 5 Aug 2011

Chip description:
0.0 VGA compatible controller
ATI Technologies Inc Redwood PRO [Radeon HD 5500 Series]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: REDWOOD 01.00

X Server: Xorg
Driver used: fglrx

X.Org version: 1.7.7
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (507x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/root/ as report-video,
and archived with xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log as report-video-full.gz

It's working well so far.

[marco07]

Where is this Exprimo 5.X.1?

On his website

try

http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/DpupSque ... xprimo5X1/

Thanks! Will download it later and try to install this weekend.

[marco07]

Seriously gettin there now

What game is this? It is not aisle riot. Right? Is it a stand alone game? From PPM?

It is indeed Tkspider. Tkspider is not in the PPM, probably because it needs the Tk/Tcl runtime environments added to function, same with Freecell. I have built Tk/Tcl as two sfs packages to save having to install them from .pets. If anyone wants Tkspider and Freecell I could make a package for them available along with Tk/Tcl.

Dave S, Thank you!
I am definitely interested. please post!
I used to have Aisle riot with other pemasu's puppies from PPM. But unfortunatel, this is non-existant in debian repo. I look forward to have yours installed.
TIA

[marco07]

Deleted Duplicate post!

[Jim1911]

Dave S, Thank you!
I am definitely interested. please post!
I used to have Aisle riot with other pemasu's puppies from PPM. But unfortunatel, this is non-existant in debian repo. I look forward to have yours installed.
TIA

The fine gnome-games-lite by ttuuxxx is much smaller, it has Aisleriot and is available here. It works fine in all of pemasu's derivatives. Choose dpup version for this one, uj for his others, if you use spup, 01micko has adapted it also and you will find it on his site.

[DaveS]

Now here is an interesting side issue.... I use an HP Photosmart wifi printer. I ALWAYS have to add this printer by hand, BUT, in Dpup, using Opera, CUPS actually finds the printer for me
Firefox/Seamonkey on the same system cannot.
Strange fish.