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nooby · Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 10522 Location: SwedenEurope

Water cooled Puppy Computer sounds cool indeed Smile

One thing I wonder about is this.

Now when we have a tool that can change kernel to a newer one but reuse the the way a puppy is set up? Then I can take any Puppy even Puppy 431 and give it a kernel that works good with my Atheros LAN card and that way to not depend on what kernel that the original Dev used?

Take Pupngo that use a too old kernel. One could make it use the latest kernel instead?

HiDeHo · Joined: 16 Mar 2011 Posts: 284

Hi Iguleder Another thing i am wondering is will KLP be versatile able to run on older and newer computers alike. its just that i am creating a puplet that i want to reach as wider variety of people as possible. i remember in its day when it was the current puppy that 431 was great like that.

if i can have this and ability for modern apps and things it would be great.

Dewbie · Joined: 15 Apr 2010 Posts: 1768

From James C:
Lucid 525 Retro-2.6.30.5

Wally · Posted: Fri 22 Jul 2011, 01:31 Post subject:

i think a re-release of 431 with Audacity built-in would be good.

and throw Jackbeat in there, too.

and trim some fat away, like lesser used apps, like have only 1 calculator, or something oh and Gimp built-in would be good too.

Remember, it's all in a name.

Give a dog a bad name and you may as well hang him

4.3.1 is why i choose it over 'Lucid'

disciple · Posted: Fri 22 Jul 2011, 02:17 Post subject:

Wally · Posted: Fri 22 Jul 2011, 04:21 Post subject:

ah,

i couldn't be more serious.

good point about the calculators, though.

** yeh, and 3D grafx should definitely be made
standard, or built-in, so one does not have
to install xorg/dri pets..

that's good idea

darkcity · Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 2411 Location: near here

I've added this discussion to the Puppy wiki page

and retro 525 to the Puppy Version list
Puppy Version List

please correct and expand if you like.

PaulS · Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Posts: 12 Location: Western Washington

I am a bit of a newb to Linux and Puppy. I have just finally done a full install on an old P4 Gateway machine with two HDD, two DVDs, and a 144 floppy. It also has USB (V1). I like it. It is stable as it came off the cd even though I had a bit of trouble getting it to see the LAN card.
I saw this thread and am very interested because I want to install the Open Office package (once I figure out which one will be stable). 4.31 won't support the web cam I have (Logitech V-UM14) but I haven't searched very hard for a driver yet either.

I have used Puppy 4.31 on this computer and older WIN98 and a new quad processor WIN 7 computer - it worked well on all of them. This is my dedicated NewDOS/Linux computer (Gateway) and it will never again see any MS products if I can avoid it. I do need to add some ram as I only have 128 M on it but there is a place close that I can get what I need.

I think that as long as 4.31 is kept as stable and universal as it is that the only thing it needs is the ability to accept "newer" apps. I wonder if the apps could be made to contain all the deps they need to operate without mucking with the basic 4.31 OS?

cowboy · Posted: Sat 23 Jul 2011, 16:29 Post subject: 4.3.1 redux

disciple · Posted: Sat 23 Jul 2011, 19:50 Post subject:

PaulS · Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Posts: 12 Location: Western Washington

I seem to be unable to express what I am thinking.
Can applications be made to operate within 4.31 if all their dependencies are built into the app package?
I don't want 4.31 to change at all - just the apps. Then we can install the newer apps knowing that puppy is just fine where it is.

Forgive my ignorance but I have only done a little work in basic, C and C+ for DOS and it has been a few years since I have done that. I am just an old man who has been fiddling with computers since 1978 when I bought my first TRS-80 (which I still have).

I am unsure what the limits are to write upgraded software to run under the 4.31 platform.

disciple · Posted: Sat 23 Jul 2011, 21:31 Post subject:

Makoto · Posted: Sat 23 Jul 2011, 21:42 Post subject:

Well, there's things like CDE, which attempt to bundle a program with all the necessary dependencies to create something of a 'portable' program. I'm not sure how reliable it is, whether or not it follows the entire chain of dependencies, and if it handles the glibc/gtk dependencies well (if at all), though.

But, yeah, depending upon the amount of dependencies (sorry, no pun intended), a program could still possibly grow fairly large (even after stripping/UPXing/etc.). Sad

disciple · Posted: Sat 23 Jul 2011, 23:47 Post subject:

HiDeHo · Joined: 16 Mar 2011 Posts: 284