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puplite alpha7, update 001

#81 Post by sc0ttman »

here's a pet with most of the stuff I have updated since uploading the alpha7 ISO ...
(not including opera package updates, of course)

Install when not using a save file!!, boot with pfix=ram :)

Includes:

- all the stuff I did since, plus Keefs amixer fix thing in .xinitrc

EDIT: Adding the amixer commands into xinitrc makes my volume go up to 100% on PCM and MASTER ..
Distorting the sound quite badly..
Must find a way to check if muted, then apply the fix!

EDIT 2: Is this relevant? Would knowing the value (1 or 0) help?

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cat /proc/asound/pcm
or maybe

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cat /proc/asound/card1/pcm0
EDIT 3:

The above may or may not be relevant, but I changed the values from 70 to 30 (master) and 21 (pcm), as amixer sees 31 and over as 100%.. This seems to work fine for me (not included in update-001).

Testers, please :

- Test audio volumes, good info in /proc/asound
- Test the speed of desktop switching and desktop refresh!
- Don't be as dumb as me, and think it through first...

Run the command:

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time restartjwm
then install the update-001.pet and run it again! I didn't, before remastering!
...But I can test in an older Puplite, will reboot it soon..
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#82 Post by technosaurus »

Re: speeding up refresh
One way would be to parse all of the .desktop files for the necessary info into a file similar to the pet packages list, and maybe drop a timestamp so only new entries need to be parsed. ( I once did this parsing for a gtkdialog program that showed each program in its own categorized notebook tab.... )

Ideally this file should be generated/updated via installpkgs.sh so that the menu generator can be a single awk command.

Ex. (untested b/c I am posting from my Droid)

Category¦name¦description¦icon¦executable....

grep $some_category file ¦awk -f "¦" {print ... $2.....$5.....}
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#83 Post by sc0ttman »

technosaurus wrote:Re: speeding up refresh
One way would be to parse all of the .desktop files for the necessary info into a file similar to the pet packages list, and maybe drop a timestamp so only new entries need to be parsed.
Isn't the actual "/usr/sbin/fixmenus" script mostly unchanged in all puppies?? Cos if fixmenus is the same across many puppies, or at least the JWM part, then it might be worth doing.. Not got my head round the code quite yet, though.
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#84 Post by technosaurus »

sc0ttman wrote:
technosaurus wrote:Re: speeding up refresh
One way would be to parse all of the .desktop files for the necessary info into a file similar to the pet packages list, and maybe drop a timestamp so only new entries need to be parsed.
Isn't the actual "/usr/sbin/fixmenus" script mostly unchanged in all puppies?? Cos if fixmenus is the same across many puppies, or at least the JWM part, then it might be worth doing.. Not got my head round the code quite yet, though.
Yes it is mostly the same, but the code for building the menus from .desktop files is the slow part iirc. (each file takes ~.02s) ... it may require modifying the templates too... personally I would have all the templates as variables in the fixmenus script.

BTW bashbox has a utility called time2 that gives finer grained results than time by using the difference between date before and after.
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#85 Post by Keef »

I applied the update pet.
Got the barks after running alsaconf to load the module.
Ran retrovol and sound was on about 70%. After a reboot it was up to 100%.
Volume info looks to be in /etc/asound.state. I kept a copy when it was on 100%. Lowered it to around 70% then ran

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#alsactl store
to save the settings. Ran Xfdiff-cut on the two files (renamed one of them of course), and the values changed as below:

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		name 'Master Playback Switch'
		value true
	}
	control.2 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 2
		comment.range '0 - 31'
		comment.dbmin -4650
		comment.dbmax 0
		iface MIXER
		name 'Master Playback Volume'
		value.0 23
		value.1 23
	}
	

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	control.2 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 2
		comment.range '0 - 31'
		comment.dbmin -4650
		comment.dbmax 0
		iface MIXER
		name 'Master Playback Volume'
		value.0 13
		value.1 13
	}
	

Edit: when muted, the value is 0 of course.
There is the alsafix.pet for Lucid which aims to fix the same problem, but it won't work on Puplite (I gave it a hopeful shot...).
See here
The script in the pet is a bit beyond me to see if it can be adapted. Actually any script over about 5 lines long brings on a glazed look.

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#86 Post by sc0ttman »

Keef wrote:I applied the update pet.
Got the barks after running alsaconf to load the module.
Ran retrovol and sound was on about 70%. After a reboot it was up to 100%.
Volume info looks to be in /etc/asound.state. I kept a copy when it was on 100%. Lowered it to around 70% then ran

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#alsactl store
to save the settings.
Thanks for the info again, Keef, I will update the file in /etc/asound.state,
or add one there, if it's not already there (I've yet to check it all out)..

Just for you info, I think I will continue to use the following in ~./xinitrc.
I hope this does not conflict with the settings in /etc..
Any thoughts?

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amixer set -c 0 Master 30 unmute
amixer set -c 0 PCM 21 unmute
I noticed for me, that when PCM is over the ALSA-recommended value of 70%, sound is badly distorted.. but not with MASTER, which can go to 100% with no problems.

So, the above code should enable PCM at 70% and master at 100%,
which is as loud I can get across PCs, without distortion.

I think I may also need to add another line, to control the CENTER speaker as well, to cover laptops as well. But I am not sure.

Hope that all makes sense.

EDIT: This may also be relevant: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 623#546623
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#87 Post by sc0ttman »

technosaurus wrote:the code for building the menus from .desktop files is the slow part iirc. (each file takes ~.02s) ... it may require modifying the templates too... personally I would have all the templates as variables in the fixmenus script.
Maybe I could start a thread about "improving fixmenus",
just like the "improving snapmerge" thread...
BTW bashbox has a utility called time2 that gives finer grained results than time by using the difference between date before and after.
Great, I will have a look. Yet to get onto checking out bashbox,
but I look forward to it, hope I can use it to replace lots of other code snippets and functions used elsewhere.. I already noticed FFConvert 1.1-devel, and will start making the wrapper "/usr/bin/ffconvert" containing "exec bashbox ffconvert".. Is that the right way to do it?
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#88 Post by technosaurus »

You don't even need a wrapper, just make a symlink of the same name as the function to bashbox.
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Flash problems

#89 Post by oligin10 »

Hi Scott, just wanted to give you a quick update. All my testing is from live cd, running in ram. Booted cd, wif connection, installed Opera from browser install, ran update.pet (definitely made my sound much louder), installed flash 10.pet using your flash installer. Went to insideline.com, went to video sub section, still complains needs Adobe flash 9 or newer. Flash does not show up in installed .pets. After installing flash 10.1rc pet from forum, flash works fine. Also, is cups already installed? Had to install cups to do printer setup. Also, puppizard has 2 menu entries. Went to PPM, saw new Wary repository. Thanks again, Rob
Edit 1: Sound works upon boot, but having problems with not seeing sound button in jwm tray.

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Re: Flash problems

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oligin10 wrote:Hi Scott, just wanted to give you a quick update. All my testing is from live cd, running in ram. Booted cd, wif connection, installed Opera from browser install, ran update.pet (definitely made my sound much louder), installed flash 10.pet using your flash installer. Went to insideline.com, went to video sub section, still complains needs Adobe flash 9 or newer. Flash does not show up in installed .pets. After installing flash 10.1rc pet from forum, flash works fine. Also, is cups already installed? Had to install cups to do printer setup. Also, puppizard has 2 menu entries. Went to PPM, saw new Wary repository. Thanks again, Rob
Edit 1: Sound works upon boot, but having problems with not seeing sound button in jwm tray.
Hi oligin10,

Glad wifi is working, which tool did you use to connect?

And yeah.. The menu needs a lot of cleaning up, puppizard and more!
It is one of the last jobs I will do.

Hmm, I will test Opera on that site as well.. The Flash installer downloads the latest from the Adobe site, and unpacks it to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins .. At least is should (always works for me)..

And no, cups it not installed by default, there is an all-one-one printing SFS file that you can download ... It is here: http://eminima.org/puplite/ .. I do not use printing if I can help it, am am a real CUPS noob, so cannot offer much help with printing.. But I do know the CUPS package in the printing SFS is the one from the pup4 repo which actually works..

The retrovol audio mixer will not appear in the tray by default, it must be enabled first. Go to Menu->System->Startups and enable it from there. Then restart X. It will then load up in the tray every time X starts..

Also, the Wary repo is not done yet, it's not showing the actual Wary5 repo, when it does, most pets will end with 'w5' ... It will be the main repo, but there will not any way of checking which are already installed.. Care will need to be taken.

Thanks again for testing, it's a real help, makes life much easier for me!
:D cheers
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#91 Post by sc0ttman »

technosaurus wrote:You don't even need a wrapper, just make a symlink of the same name as the function to bashbox.
OK cheers, that was my first thought, but thought I'd check.
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#92 Post by Keef »

I think I've found a cleaner solution to retaining sound settings.
I've put

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 alsactrl restore
into rc.local
and

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 alsactrl store 
into rc.shutdown. Not sure if it matters where, but I placed it after the comment block around line 645.
This has been retaining any volume changes so far. Tested from a clean install without the update pet. Gleaned various bits of info from a forum search and then applied a bit of trial and error. I don't actually understand what I'm doing half the time :oops:

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#93 Post by sc0ttman »

Keef wrote:I think I've found a cleaner solution to retaining sound settings.
I've put

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 alsactrl restore
into rc.local
and

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 alsactrl store 
into rc.shutdown. Not sure if it matters where, but I placed it after the comment block around line 645.
This has been retaining any volume changes so far. Tested from a clean install without the update pet. Gleaned various bits of info from a forum search and then applied a bit of trial and error. I don't actually understand what I'm doing half the time :oops:
Errr... I get 'command not found' .. I don't seem to have alsactrl installed.. Are you sure you have?

EDIT... I have alsactl .. that must be it, right?
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#94 Post by Keef »

Talk about proving a point...

typo - should be alsactl :oops:

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#95 Post by sc0ttman »

Keef wrote:Talk about proving a point...

typo - should be alsactl :oops:
Still helping me learn!
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#96 Post by sc0ttman »

OK I added the amixer stuff to rc.sysinit, removed it from ~./xinitrc
BUT, it is only applied if PUPMODE=5 (which means at first boot)
Then 'alsactl restore' is executed if PUPMODE != 5

I also added 'alsactl store' to rc.shutdown,
so these settings are saved at shutdown

This should mean:

Muted volume is corrected at first boot, and settings are saved at first shutdown.
Settings are always restored to previously saved setting, each boot after that.
Settings are (re)saved at every shutdown, as well.
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#97 Post by oligin10 »

Hi Scott, using SNS usually. I find it seems to work best with my ath_pci 5xxx card. Others work sometimes, then they don't (at least on other puplets). Set retrovol to start at bootup, will check it later. Thanks, Rob

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#98 Post by technosaurus »

here is my optimized code for generating a desktop file database, but the $OUTPUT could be modified to generate a jwm/ice/<other_wm> menu directly (with some extra code)

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#!/bin/ash
#due to the *.desktop files having set parameter names with an equal sign we can _almost_ just include them ... just need some help from sed
for x in /usr/share/applications/*.desktop ; do
#removes lines with [*] and quotes the =* ... to ="*" , but need "eval" to actually set the variables within
eval `sed '/]/d;s/=/=\"/g;s/$/\"/g' $x` 2>/dev/null
OUTPUT=$OUTPUT$Exec"|"$Categories"|"$GenericName"|"$Name"|"$Icon"|"$Comment"\n" #needed to make newlines in echo -e output file
done
#we used a variable inside the loop because it is much faster to write to a file only once here
echo -e $OUTPUT >tmp
here is my unoptimized code where this came from ... a gtkdialog based menu ... btw puppy really needs locate and updatedb for gtkdialog to function as intended (it locates icons etc...) or we need to patch it to search in /usr/share/mini-icons (it already looks in /usr/share/pixmaps)


Note: the ayttm.desktop file has unneeded quotes that break this, but

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#!/bin/ash
[ -f /var/locatedb ] && echo file database found || [ `which updatedb` ] && updatedb --localpaths=/usr
[ -f /tmp/.pgtkmenu ] && gtkdialog3 -f /tmp/.pgtkmenu && exit
for x in `ls /usr/share/applications/*.desktop`; do
   EXE="`grep "^Exec=" $x |cut -d = -f 2`"
   CAT="`grep "^Categories=" $x |cut -d = -f 2`"
   NAM="`grep "^GenericName=" $x |cut -d = -f 2`"
   [ "$NAM" = "" ] && NAM="`grep "^Name=" $x |cut -d = -f 2`"
   ICO="`grep "^Icon=" $x |cut -d = -f 2`"
   COM="`grep "^Comment=" $x |cut -d = -f 2 |sed 's/\"//g'`"
   NEW="\n<hbox tooltip-text=\"$COM\">\n
	<button>\n
	\t	<label>$NAM</label>\n
	\t	<input file>${ICO:-/usr/share/mini-icons/so.xpm}</input>\n
	\t	<action>$EXE &</action>\n
	</button>\n</hbox>
"
   case $CAT in #todo this is an incomplet list ... too many end up in misc still
      *alculat*|*inance|*heet|ProjectManagement)   BUS=$BUS$NEW"\n";;
      *eskto*|*creensave*|*ccessib*)   DSK=$DSK$NEW"\n";;
      *ocumen*|*ordProcessor|*ebDevelo*)   DOC=$DOC$NEW"\n";;
      *ile*)   FIL=$FIL$NEW"\n";;
      *Game|*olePla*|*imulation|*musement)   FUN=$FUN$NEW"\n";;
      *raphics|*hotography|*resent*|*art)   GFX=$GFX$NEW"\n";;
      *udio*|*ideo*|*layer|*ecorder|*usic|*idi|*ixer|*equencer|*uner|TV|*iskBurning)   MED=$MED$NEW"\n";;
      Dialup|Network|HamRadio|RemoteAccess)   NET=$NET$NEW"\n";;
      X-PersonalUtility|X-Personal|Calendar|ContactManagement)   PER=$PER$NEW"\n";;
      *etup*|PackageManager)   SET=$SET$NEW"\n";;
      *onitor|*ecurity|*ardware*|*ore|*ystem)   SYS=$SYS$NEW"\n";;
      Utility|Viewer|Development|Building|Debugger|IDE|Profiling|Translation|GUIDesigner|Archiving|TerminalEmulator|Shell)   UTL=$UTL$NEW"\n";;
      *nternet|*rowser|*mail|*ews|*essaging|*elephony|*lient|*ransfer|P2P)   WEB=$WEB$NEW"\n";;
      *) MSC=$MSC$NEW"\n";;
   esac
   
done
DLG="<notebook page=\"0\" tab-pos=\"1\" enable-popup=\"true\" labels=\"Business|Desktop|Document|File|Fun|Graphics|Media|Network|Personal|Setup|System|Utility|Web|Miscellaneous\">
\n<frame Business>"$BUS"\n</frame>
\n<frame Desktop>"$DSK"\n</frame>
\n<frame Document>"$DOC"\n</frame>
\n<frame File>"$FIL"\n</frame>
\n<frame Fun>"$FUN"\n</frame>
\n<frame Graphics>"$GFX"\n</frame>
\n<frame Media>"$MED"\n</frame>
\n<frame Network>"$NET"\n</frame>
\n<frame Personal>"$PER"\n</frame>
\n<frame Setup>"$SET"\n</frame>
\n<frame System>"$SYS"\n</frame>
\n<frame Utility>"$UTL"\n</frame>
\n<frame Web>"$WEB"\n</frame>
\n<frame Misc>"$MSC"\n</frame>
\n</notebook>"
echo -e $DLG >/tmp/.pgtkmenu
$0
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#99 Post by sc0ttman »

technosaurus wrote:here is my optimized code for generating a desktop file database, but the $OUTPUT could be modified to generate a jwm/ice/<other_wm> menu directly (with some extra code)
I've yet to get this to work, but have setup the .dsektop files to play nicely, but still get errors, will post them soon..

EDIT: I have 'locate' installed, BTW, but not updatedb.. Where can I get that?

On another note, I have successfully added the Wary repo to the PPM. :D
I also made most of it use ash, not bash.. So it's a bit faster, too.

My method (if u wanna know):

I created a script that downloads the list of files in ibiblio wary repo,
then it converts the list of .pets found, into pup4 (pre woof) PPM compatible entries.

I use wget, so I cannot get pet specs, containing the dependencies and descriptions!
So these are left blank for now.

The file livepackages5.txt is created, and I have modified the following files to support it:

/usr/sbin/petget
/usr/local/petget/pkg_chooser.sh

But I still have more to do before I am happy with it.

- Category filters do not, and will not work - no way of getting the pet specs for each package!
- The list of .pet shown is complete - the ones already installed are not hidden.

So, I will do this next:

- Disable the filter button when Wary repo is showing
- Update the file which lists all the pets which are pre-intalled

Some help..

Which file lists all the pets which are pre-intalled (pre-woof)? :roll:
It must be /root/.packages/packages.txt, right?
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#100 Post by Puppyt »

sc0ttman wrote: On another note, I have successfully added the Wary repo to the PPM. :D
Cheers sc0ttman! I had a look at your example provided and it looks much better than the standard PPM - with it's un-resizable inner window and attribute columns. Good job!

I've been experimenting with your Akita + Frisbee to illustrate my progress in getting eduroam to work in puppy, and I thought I'd just briefly tell you about more general observations first. Sorry if you've already mentioned these matters elsewhere for your alpha release.
I'm testing it frugal-installed on a T60 Lenovo lappie, dual-core with 2Gb RAM.
Love the clean look, though labels on my multiple partitions and usb drives would be useful. While first running it 'live' I liked the APPS option in the taskbar(?) heaps, but strangely it didn't work after I installed Akita to HD. The network applet I haven't seen working yet, and I can't start the network options from there. Can't seem to get Xpad working either - I get the sticky, but I can't enter data and it won't respond to preference changes. Shame - I really like Xpad. You've picked a great selection of other apps there too - great to see radky's control panels in there. Liked your browser selector very much too, although after I installed FireDog 3.6 I got some strange missing dependencies. I don't think it hurt the install though as it seemed to be fine when I tested it, online. However - I have to keep setting up the network on each reboot - there's no apparent memory of previous settings (in Frisbee anyway), and no autoconnect.

Perhaps my hiccups have something to do with a weird behaviour I got earlier on a previous boot: I clicked somewheres near Osmo on the taskbar (lower left) and Akita went into immediate shutdown (no shutdown options like normal). I thought initially that it was a really neat "chicken switch" like the OFF button in some pupplets (like HSB) but I couldn't replicate the response. So it seems that most of my issues above might very well relate to FS corruption, although I get no bootup errors. Actually, come to think of it, my recent difficulties with Frisbee and wpa_supplication configuration files (for eduroam) might also be related to that, rather than the conflict issues you note with other network managers earlier in this thread. Feels like I'm on the verge of cracking the eduroam issue, though.
Hope to give you new and improved feedback tomorrow, after a re-install -
Thanks!
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