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rcrsn51


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PostPosted: Mon 27 Jun 2011, 07:53    Post subject:  

Thanks. I don't have a 64-bit machine where on-demand CPU scaling appears to do anything useful.
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PostPosted: Mon 27 Jun 2011, 10:57    Post subject:  

rcrsn51 wrote:
Thanks. I don't have a 64-bit machine where on-demand CPU scaling appears to do anything useful.
Yeah, I think their use may be evident in Laptop environments, where running without being plugged in MAY yield some benefit.

But, I wonder if there is a measurement tool(s) that could be useful in measuring energy use over time and CPU life expectancy from heat impact, to determine whether a benefit is achieved from these utilities?

Thanks @Rcrsn51

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PostPosted: Mon 27 Jun 2011, 11:04    Post subject: sfs_load  

There is a little bug in /etc/init.d/sfs_load, which causes the usb (or other device) in frugal install is mounted at boot.
Must be:
[ "$1" = "start" -o "$1" = "stop" ] && exit
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PostPosted: Mon 27 Jun 2011, 12:46    Post subject:  

rcrsn51, have you tried wcpufreq by tazoc?
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=61255&search_id=351354018
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billtoo, Your numbers are similar to mine. Opera scores higher than the gecko browsers, and I think Iron/Chromium/Chrome would score higher yet.

To me the significant thing is that Firefox, which I use for my work because of its features, etc., is now in the hunt for speed. Even more so, Seamonkey is now respectably fast. Firefox and Seamonkey both will get faster (maybe 5-10% higher scores on Peacekeeper) if you compile for your cpu (if you did not)
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=67756

I have used Peacekeeper mostly, but I understand that Firefox 5.0 beats everyone on one of the javascript benchmarks, for whatever that is worth.
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PostPosted: Mon 27 Jun 2011, 13:21    Post subject:  

@playdayz: I looked at wcpufreq and it integrates nicely with CPUtemp.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Tue 28 Jun 2011, 00:52    Post subject:  

As above - works really well.
Many thanks - Ray
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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Tue 28 Jun 2011, 08:19    Post subject: Fatdog64-520 beta 2  

Manual frugal install to acer aspire desktop.
I used the same method as I used in previous post to install the proprietary
nvidia driver.
Tue 28 Jun 2011 Operating System: Fatdog64-520 Linux 2.6.38.8
0.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C77 [GeForce 8200] (rev a2)
0.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G98 [GeForce 9300 GE] (rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA product: G98 Board - 5610003u Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia: vendor=NVIDIA Corporation
X.Org version: 1.9.5
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (411x263 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 9300 GE/PCI/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 275.09.07

Athlon(tm) Dual Core Processor 4850e
Core 0: 2499 1: 2499 MHz

...the above also recorded at '/tmp/root/report-video-glx'.
# glxgears
19738 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3947.568 FPS
19732 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3946.239 FPS
19764 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3952.760 FPS
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Jim1911

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PostPosted: Tue 28 Jun 2011, 22:20    Post subject:  

Hi Billtoo,

Please provide a link to the kernel sfs file that you used to compile the NVIDIA driver for Fatdog64. I keep overlooking it.

Thanks,
Jim
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PostPosted: Tue 28 Jun 2011, 23:04    Post subject:  

Jim1911 wrote:
Hi Billtoo,

Please provide a link to the kernel sfs file that you used to compile the NVIDIA driver for Fatdog64. I keep overlooking it.

Thanks,
Jim


Hi Jim,
The kernel source sfs is built into the fd64-devx_520.sfs so the devx is all that needs to be installed.
Blacklisting the nouveau kernel module was the tough part, see my 2nd post on page 2 of this thread.

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PostPosted: Tue 28 Jun 2011, 23:41    Post subject: Kernel Source  

Billtoo wrote:
The kernel source sfs is built into the fd64-devx_520.sfs ... .
Thanks. @Billtoo. FATDOG instructions for video driver should be even easier than 32bit version in the instruction thread.. Thx.

Is JAVA/JRE built into this version of FATDOG?
Edited: Skip this question. I see that Jim1911 had to install it here. Thanks @Jim1911.

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PostPosted: Wed 29 Jun 2011, 15:00    Post subject:  

Hi Billtoo,

Thanks for your quick reply. It worked fine with the kernel source sfs is built into the fd64-devx_520.sfs. However, in addition to Blacklisting the nouveau kernel module I had to force the use of the Vesa driver because even after reboot with it blacklisted the nouveau was still used. Also, the NVIDIA.desktop file had to be edited to get the NVIDIA settings tool to show up properly in the menu.

@kirk, please consider returning to the old "nv" driver. Nouveau prevents the proper driver from installing, and it is a real headache to get rid of when trying to install the correct NVIDIA driver.

Thanks,
Jim
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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Wed 29 Jun 2011, 17:49    Post subject: Fatdog64-520 beta 2
Subject description: acer nettop
 

Manual frugal install to acer revo nettop pc.
Installed devx and proprietary nvidia driver in usual way.

Wed 29 Jun 2011 Operating System: Fatdog64-520 Linux 2.6.38.8
0.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation ION VGA (rev b1)
oem: NVIDIA product: MCP79 Board - hornet-0 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia: vendor=NVIDIA Corporation
X.Org version: 1.9.5
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (373x231 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: ION/PCI/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 275.09.07

Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330
Core 0: 1599 1: 1599 2: 1599 3: 1599 MHz

...the above also recorded at '/tmp/root/report-video-glx'.
# glxgears
9713 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1942.514 FPS
9782 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1956.336 FPS
9796 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1959.108 FPS
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kirk

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PostPosted: Wed 29 Jun 2011, 22:50    Post subject:  

Quote:
There is a little bug in /etc/init.d/sfs_load, which causes the usb (or other device) in frugal install is mounted at boot.
Must be:
[ "$1" = "start" -o "$1" = "stop" ] && exit


Yes, that seems like a bug, I made the change. Hopefully that wasn't intentional. Thanks.


Quote:
@kirk, please consider returning to the old "nv" driver. Nouveau prevents the proper driver from installing, and it is a real headache to get rid of when trying to install the correct NVIDIA driver.


The old nv driver is in there too. The nv driver doesn't work for all Nvidia cards ether. I've patched Xorg-server to use the nv, nouveau, and vesa drivers depending on the pcid of the card. Open source Nvidia is kind of a mess. We'll have a Nvidia pet closer to final. I never blacklist anything, I just delete the module. If you're running a frugal install the original file is always available in /initrd/pup_ro2. The nouveau module is at /lib/modules/2.6.38.8/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau.ko.

I'm uploading Beta3 right now. It has Firefox 5 and Thunderbird 5. I'll make a post about beta3 when I get a chance. I'm not uploading a new devx file, the only change is a update to yasm.
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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Thu 30 Jun 2011, 04:55    Post subject: Fatdog64-520 beta 3  

I did a manual frugal install of beta3 to acer aspire desktop pc.
I ran grub4dos and edited the menu.lst kernel line adding "fatdog
nomodeset pfix=vesa,ram" and booted up beta3.
Once at the desktop I edited the kernel line in menu.lst back to
"kernel /fatdog520b3/vmlinuz pmedia=atahd psubdir=fatdog520b3 pfix=fsck"
I used pfind to locate nouveau.ko and deleted it.
I loaded the devx with SFS-Load on-the-fly and exited to the prompt
and installed NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-275.09.07.run,when it finished
compiling I entered "nvidia-xconfig" then "xwin" to get back to the
desktop.
Thu 30 Jun 2011 Operating System: Fatdog64-520 Linux 2.6.38.8
0.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C77 [GeForce 8200] (rev a2)
0.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G98 [GeForce 9300 GE] (rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA product: G98 Board - 5610003u Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia: vendor=NVIDIA Corporation
X.Org version: 1.9.5
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (411x263 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 9300 GE/PCI/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 275.09.07

Athlon(tm) Dual Core Processor 4850e
Core 0: 2500 1: 2500 MHz

...the above also recorded at '/tmp/root/report-video-glx'.
# glxgears
19652 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3930.276 FPS
19602 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3920.221 FPS
19649 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3929.620 FPS
I rebooted creating a save file and changing root password.
@kirk
Could you add an option or two to increasing the size of the save file
by adding 1024,2048?
It takes lots of reboots to get the save file up to 4 or 5 gb with the max
being 512mb.

edit:Firefox 5.0 wins by a nose over the newest Opera in the peacekeeper benchmark on this pc.
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PostPosted: Thu 30 Jun 2011, 08:47    Post subject:  

I'm late to the game, downloading beta3 now, marking this thread so that I can find it again ...
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