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Macpup 525 full install help

#41 Post by openwell2 »

Hi,
I really like this new pup.
Just did full install of Macpup 525 and need help.
Everytime I boot I get the "personalize settings" popup box.
It has the settings correct, but it barks two times and popsup.
I went back and booted from ram and saved settings to 32MB save file.
Still pops up each time I boot. Any help to stop it?

Also, I set the firewall like instructed on page 1.
Then I read the note about already having the lupup 525 instant update 001, but not the firewall icon. I would like to turn on and off firewall quickly.
How can I get just the icon and how do I install it?
Or is there a way to do it another way?
Many thanks for any help.

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#42 Post by runtt21 »

saved settings to 32MB save file.
This isn't going to work. You need the save file to be 512 or more or you wont be able to install or do anything. You don't have room to save settings.I suggest you boot up in ram.Delete the first save file and make a new one. I also recommend putting the save file on a usb flash drive or sd card.

You will need to add the systray to the bottom shelf to see the firewall icon. Read the e17 guide in the first post.

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#43 Post by russoodle »

@openwell2: hi and welcome to the kennels :)

Just to clarify something for you here...
openwell2 wrote:Just did full install of Macpup 525..
A full install doesn't offer you a save-file because you wouldn't need one, so what you have there is a 'frugal' install, which pretty much means a compressed (squashed) and portable sort of install, which doesn't reside on your hdd in the general sense.

With a frugal install, your settings should be saved to the save-file to execute in RAM on reboot, and this is a handy way to run the OS if you have plenty of RAM, because nothing outside of this save-file affects your hdd.

If you have older hardware with only up to about 256mb RAM, you would be better advised to do a full install then, in the normal way, and make a swap file of double your RAM capacity.

As runtt pointed out, to install additional features using a frugal install, you'd need that minimum of 512MB.

Hope this helps you to understand and enjoy your Macpup even more.
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#44 Post by runtt21 »

This is a little how to for the Engage module that is included in the extramods.pet . It is an updated version of itask-ng the e17 version of wbar.

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To load Engage open the module settings window. Select Engage and then load. It will start right away.

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To configure it open the settings panel and look under extensions. click on engage.

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The engage instances window will open where you can add or remove extra bars . Select the one you want and click configure.

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the engage configuration window will open and let you make adjustments.

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Under bar items you can add app icons. Just select launcher and configure.

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Apply and your good to go.

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full install OK and just successfully added firefox 7

#45 Post by openwell2 »

Thank you for all your advise russoodle and runtt21. I got full install running great! Just added firefox 7 with your detailed instructions runtt21 and works good!
I do feel like a pig though! I seem to have it all. LOL :-)))) I am using an 8 year old Pentium 4 with 2.5 GB ram and I allocated 50 GB of my hdd to macpup 525. Am having great fun experimenting with E17 and JWM and xfce4.6.2 also. If I was brave I would try a frugal install on my Dell desktop. Everything is working very well. I just reboot and switch desktops with the logout menu items. It is real easy. The choices are so many.
Thanks again for a great pup.

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#46 Post by runtt21 »

I would try a frugal install
Try it on a usb flash drive ,then you can take it anywhere. Boot up on any computer that will boot from usb with the ram option and your good to go.If you use several computers you can make a save file for each one and any drivers/setting will be saved.See the first post in the thread for usb installs.

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#47 Post by russoodle »

Thanks for the Engage guide, runtt :)
openwell2 wrote:I do feel like a pig though! I seem to have it all.
It's good to hear of happy pigs who have it all :D

I'm glad you managed to sort it out successfully and if you decide to follow runtt's suggestion to make a frugal install to usb stick as well, then you'll be even more of a pig :wink:
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Modifying remastered Macpup 525 startup

#48 Post by stevecanb »

I have tried Macpup 525 and really like it. I have very limited experience with Linux.

I have been experimenting with remastering it to make a live CD which my wife (who has only ever used Windows) can use painlessly to access internet banking securely, avoiding the risk of malware in a Windows system.

I have managed to save modified pppoeconf and pap-secrets files into the etc/ppp directory in a remastered version, so that my wife can start an internet connection without having to set up DNS etc.

However, I need to make a few additional changes to make it simple enough for my wife to use.

Problem 1

However, the remastered version boots to a text-only video probe screen rather than booting directly to the desktop, as the original version did. While this is easy to deal with, it will deter my wife. How can I get the remastered version to boot to the desktop? Would deleting the /tmp/root/ directory during the remastering process, and copying the contents of the root directory from RAM into the /tmp/ directory achieve this?

Problem 2

Is there any easy way to prevent the initial dialog box about personal settings from appearing after the desktop has loaded? And the subsequent message saying ‘nothing was changed’?

Problem 3

Is there an easy way to stop the automatic search for an internet connection from running once the desktop has loaded?

Problem 4

Is there any easy way to have the puppy internet connect wizard start automatically after the desktop is loaded? This would save my wife from having to navigate through the ‘Wizard wizard’.

Problem 5

Is there any easy way to have pmount start start automatically after the desktop is loaded? This would remove one more step for my wife to navigate (she would need to mount a partition on the hard drive, and / or a USB drive, to save data.

I am hoping that the solutions to problems 2-5 are similar, such as editing a startup config file.

Sorry to ask for so much help. However, the information might be useful to other beginners who would find a similarly modified version of Macpup useful.

BTW I tried to register at http://hardkap.net/forums/topic/macpup-525 to ask these questions, but registration is not allowed on the site.

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Re: Modifying remastered Macpup 525 startup

#49 Post by James C »

stevecanb wrote:I have tried Macpup 525 and really like it. I have very limited experience with Linux.

I have been experimenting with remastering it to make a live CD which my wife (who has only ever used Windows) can use painlessly to access internet banking securely, avoiding the risk of malware in a Windows system.

I have managed to save modified pppoeconf and pap-secrets files into the etc/ppp directory in a remastered version, so that my wife can start an internet connection without having to set up DNS etc.

However, I need to make a few additional changes to make it simple enough for my wife to use.

Problem 1

However, the remastered version boots to a text-only video probe screen rather than booting directly to the desktop, as the original version did. While this is easy to deal with, it will deter my wife. How can I get the remastered version to boot to the desktop? Would deleting the /tmp/root/ directory during the remastering process, and copying the contents of the root directory from RAM into the /tmp/ directory achieve this?

Problem 2

Is there any easy way to prevent the initial dialog box about personal settings from appearing after the desktop has loaded? And the subsequent message saying ‘nothing was changed’?

Problem 3

Is there an easy way to stop the automatic search for an internet connection from running once the desktop has loaded?

Problem 4

Is there any easy way to have the puppy internet connect wizard start automatically after the desktop is loaded? This would save my wife from having to navigate through the ‘Wizard wizard’.

Problem 5

Is there any easy way to have pmount start start automatically after the desktop is loaded? This would remove one more step for my wife to navigate (she would need to mount a partition on the hard drive, and / or a USB drive, to save data.

I am hoping that the solutions to problems 2-5 are similar, such as editing a startup config file.

Sorry to ask for so much help. However, the information might be useful to other beginners who would find a similarly modified version of Macpup useful.

BTW I tried to register at http://hardkap.net/forums/topic/macpup-525 to ask these questions, but registration is not allowed on the site.
Until runtt appears. I can probably help you with problem one......playdayz released a pet just to solve that exact problem and allow remasters to boot straight to the desktop.Go down to around the middle of the page.
http://diddywahdiddy.net/LupuNews/index4.html

Actual pet is
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... cid525.pet

It should work in Macpup,but you may want to wait until runtt responds.
HTH.

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#50 Post by runtt21 »

my wife (who has only ever used Windows) can use painlessly to access internet banking securely,
What I would suggest is that you just install mp525 on a flash drive or boot with the live cd and put a save file on a flash drive. After that first save every time you boot all of your network setting/driver settings loads up solving all of your problems. All she has to do is click on the firefox icon once and then select "start private browsing" in it's menu . Doing that with the use of the firewall is about as safe as you can be. If she wants to save pics or music or what ever just use the folder to open rox. Everything gets save at shutdown except what she does in firefox while running privately.
I tried to register
Sorry about that .We have had some issues at our forum that are getting fixed.

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#51 Post by Iguleder »

runtt21, there's a small problem with PPM - /usr/local/petget/installpkg.sh replaces the category and the icon of .desktop files it doesn't like and the default is Executable.xpm, that's why the menus get so ugly.

I'm working on a workaround atm and I'm sure Macpup can benefit from it :)
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#52 Post by runtt21 »

That part of the script is original puppy.

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#53 Post by smokey01 »

runtt21, very very nice.

I note you have removed all of the icon sets. Is it possible to reinstall some?

I tried and it seems to have affected the menu system.

Mind you I'm still running live from a DVD, no save file yet. Will that make a difference?

Cheers

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#54 Post by runtt21 »

The icons sets i removed where the big one that would be on the desktop in jwm . The usr/local/lib/x11/theme stuff. I left the little icons that the puppy menus use. The icons that are used on the ibar are in /root/icons. Don't delete those unless the new one have the same name and image type, .png .jpg etc...

I dont see why changing the puppy icons would effect the menus though. What happened to them? Now there is a bug in efreet with this build that some types of icons will cause a white box (see first post in the thread) but after f1 it should be ok. Any png or jpg are ok.

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#55 Post by WillM »

Yes, very nice. I am learning to get around in Enlightenment, it seems easy to customize without having to edit any configuration files, all from the Settings Panel. Firefox updated itself to 5.0. I showed this to a friend, he was amazed how fast Macpup runs. I want to put Macpup on a USB to show some others. Thanks for this great desktop.

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#56 Post by smokey01 »

runtt21 wrote:The icons sets i removed where the big one that would be on the desktop in jwm . The usr/local/lib/x11/theme stuff. I left the little icons that the puppy menus use. The icons that are used on the ibar are in /root/icons. Don't delete those unless the new one have the same name and image type, .png .jpg etc...

I dont see why changing the puppy icons would effect the menus though. What happened to them? Now there is a bug in efreet with this build that some types of icons will cause a white box (see first post in the thread) but after f1 it should be ok. Any png or jpg are ok.
I have been playing with Macpup for the most part of yesterday and it is very impressive.

I haven't tried to reproduce the problem I mentioned above but then it may have been me pressing an incorrect button. Once I have backed up the save file I will install anther Icon-Set and see what occurs, probably not a lot of point really has they don't have a lot of effect. I might just change the one or two for the main shelf.

It is quite different to operate and configure from the conventional puppies, that's not a bad thing, maybe it could do with a puppy help 101 tutorial.

Thanks

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#57 Post by runtt21 »

Almost everything you need to know about using e17 in macpup( and any other e17 distro :lol: )

http://hardkap.net/forums/topic/e17-guide

A new theme this week and a new TOY !!! And I am starting to work on the lite version. Stayed tuned!!!!

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#58 Post by Tman »

runtt21,

There is no doubt that macpup is a magnificient looking puplet. However, I still have a major peeve with it and with most puplets in general; messy menu entries. Other linux distros do not suffer from this. Becuase I like your puplet, I have decided to make you a pet to correct this problem. If you find it beneficial, please add it to your new releases. I just made it so it has not been thouroughly tested, but I don't see how it can effect the stability of the OS. Keep up the good work.
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#59 Post by runtt21 »

About the menus.... It's a bit easier than editing every .desktop file.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... &start=100

The reason I leave the generic is explained there.

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#60 Post by runtt21 »

The new MP Mystery theme By Agust. Logo by Archie over at the pclinuxos forum. And customized by CatDude !!!! Will be uploaded by the end of the week as well as an update to the Silk theme. These new themes are set up to work the new Clock module also coming this week. They also work with the regular clock.

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The new clock combines the clock with the calendar and gives you the option to use a digital clock.( But it's huge )

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